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NJChiefsFan 11-18-2012 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9131241)
All of them plus Pioli's goon squad as far I could tell they looked like the CIA dudes Gblowfish talks about. They were ****ing pissed at me, chased me all over the parking lot. I ended up by stadium drive when they called the police and said they were pressing charges.
Phobia and your stories are amazing. Sitting here waiting for Capone's. I would imagine it will be awesome.

http://i.imgur.com/O1zDJ.gif

Hammock Parties 11-18-2012 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9131241)
All of them plus Pioli's goon squad as far I could tell they looked like the CIA dudes Gblowfish talks about. They were ****ing pissed at me, chased me all over the parking lot. I ended up by stadium drive when they called the police and said they were pressing charges.
LMAO

****ing worthless buffoons full of fake power and hot air.

Dave Lane 11-18-2012 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9131257)
you should call or talk to mellinger. He's writing a piece about it for the star.
Whats his email?

DeezNutz 11-18-2012 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9131312)
Whats his email?
And you should leave a voicemail. Usually has his contact info. at the bottom of columns.

To reach Sam Mellinger, call 816-234-4365, send e-mail to smellinger@kcstar.com

pr_capone 11-18-2012 08:31 PM
Ok, so I am home now.

At about 11:20 or so, Phobia came up to me and handed me a fat stack of flyers and said lets go to town. I started handing out tons of flyers and eventually was approached by two members of the KCPD. One of them, Officer Moore, told me I could not solicit and asked for my ID. I politely told him that I was not soliciting and that I did not have to present my ID to him.

He again stated he wanted my ID and I once again declined his request informing him that this was not a Terry stop therefore I did not have to produce identification. He stated that I did indeed have to produce ID because he asked for it. I once again declined. He then stated he would have me escorted off the property for not producing ID which elicited the same reply that this is not a Terry stop so therefore I did not have to produce ID.

After a bit of back and forth (10 minutes?), he called his supervisor over. When the SGT came up, about 10 minutes later, he was really nice and told me that I was not allowed to pass out flyers. By that time, it was already 11:52 and I would be heading into the game anyhow so it was no big deal for me to put the flyers away and go on in.

He followed me back to the tailgate where I dropped off the remaining flyers and went into the game with no problem. I personally did not see anyone have their flyers taken away from them but heard multiple people talking about it on the concourse.

So that is my little story. Funny... I thought for sure I was going to get the boot.

Dylan 11-18-2012 08:31 PM
Worth noting - This picture was featured in Cincinnati Enquirer (also, featured in this thread). The Cincinnati Enquirer owned by Gannett, publishes 82 daily U.S. newspapers, including USA TODAY.



http://cmsimg.cincinnati.com/apps/pb...against-Chiefs

Excerpt: Cincinnati Enquirer
Quote:
The game was so uniformly depressing for the locals, they’d have needed to attend a funeral to cheer up. Fortunately, lots of them were already wearing black. At least those who bothered to show up. They announced the crowd at 63,336. That was comical, and about 20,000 empties short of the truth.

An organization called Save Our Chiefs urged the few who did attend to wear black. “The color of mourning,’’ the movement’s founder explained to the Kansas City Star. Most of the tiny crowd obliged, giving Arrowhead Stadium the look of a mausoleum, only moreso.

The fans came ready to boo QB Matt Cassel at every appropriate opportunity. He obliged. Cassel threw for all of 93 yards before being benched in the third quarter. It wasn’t all Cassel’s fault. The Chiefs had two rookies starting on the offensive line, and no receivers capable of beating single coverage.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...s|text|Bengals


Excerpt: USA Today Sports
Quote:
The Chiefs' once-raucous home venue was only about half-full most of the game, and a good portion of those who showed up were dressed in black - a grass roots effort organized by fans who have been trying to pressure team ownership to clean out the front office.

"I focus on the game. I don't get into the crowd," Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel said.

Perhaps he should have let his eyes wander.

What happened on the field couldn't have put him in a good mood.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...chiefs/1712597

USA Today Sports front page is running a story that shows the Kansas City Star Obit on Mr. Lickteig.
Quote:
"Loren G. "Sam" Lickteig passed away on Nov. 14, 2012 of complications from MS and heartbreaking disappointment caused by the Kansas City Chiefs football team," the obit reads. Chris Strauss, USA Today Sports adds, "Whether that great line was the work of Mr. Lickteig or his surviving kin, we offer our applause along with our condolences."
Strauss passes the story along to Gannett's local and national reach.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon...t-man/1712301/

http://www.freep.com/usatoday/articl...t%7CSports%7Cp

Great job, guys. The plight of Save our Chiefs is everywhere, and no one escapes its reach.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ng-these-4-gms

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ls-28-chiefs-6

...above are just a few...

BigRedChief 11-18-2012 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9131503)
Ok, so I am home now.

At about 11:20 or so, Phobia came up to me and handed me a fat stack of flyers and said lets go to town. I started handing out tons of flyers and eventually was approached by two members of the KCPD. One of them, Officer Moore, told me I could not solicit and asked for my ID. I politely told him that I was not soliciting and that I did not have to present my ID to him.

He again stated he wanted my ID and I once again declined his request informing him that this was not a Terry stop therefore I did not have to produce identification. He stated that I did indeed have to produce ID because he asked for it. I once again declined. He then stated he would have me escorted off the property for not producing ID which elicited the same reply that this is not a Terry stop so therefore I did not have to produce ID.

After a bit of back and forth (10 minutes?), he called his supervisor over. When the SGT came up, about 10 minutes later, he was really nice and told me that I was not allowed to pass out flyers. By that time, it was already 11:52 and I would be heading into the game anyhow so it was no big deal for me to put the flyers away and go on in.

He followed me back to the tailgate where I dropped off the remaining flyers and went into the game with no problem. I personally did not see anyone have their flyers taken away from them but heard multiple people talking about it on the concourse.

So that is my little story. Funny... I thought for sure I was going to get the boot.
You did this.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...93264894_n.jpg

AustinChief 11-18-2012 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9131241)
All of them plus Pioli's goon squad as far I could tell they looked like the CIA dudes Gblowfish talks about. They were ****ing pissed at me, chased me all over the parking lot. I ended up by stadium drive when they called the police and said they were pressing charges.
Exactly what charges were they going to press? It is NOT illegal to pass out handbills in public (so long as they aren't commercial in nature). As a matter of fact there is plenty of precedent protecting the activity.

For those who claim that Arrowhead's parking lot is "private property".. doesn't matter. Not one single bit. It is considered a "public space" just like a shopping mall... something the courts have ruled on many times in the past.

Now, that being said, it doesn't mean some idiot cop won;t arrest you and then take the heat for it later... but it does mean that you are protected legally if you want to go that route.

My guess is that security started to back down after someone with the Chiefs contacted their attorneys and they were told they'd be in deep shite if they actually took any action.

DeezNutz 11-18-2012 08:39 PM
I had to Google "Terry stop." Not going to lie.

Arrowhead: Where one must have full knowledge of his legal rights. This, my friends, is the Patriot Way introduced in KC.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2012 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9131503)
Officer Moore, told me I could not solicit and asked for my ID. I politely told him that I was not soliciting and that I did not have to present my ID to him.

He again stated he wanted my ID and I once again declined his request informing him that this was not a Terry stop therefore I did not have to produce identification. He stated that I did indeed have to produce ID because he asked for it. I once again declined. He then stated he would have me escorted off the property for not producing ID which elicited the same reply that this is not a Terry stop so therefore I did not have to produce ID.

After a bit of back and forth (10 minutes?), he called his supervisor over. When the SGT came up, about 10 minutes later, he was really nice and told me that I was not allowed to pass out flyers.
Scott Pioli is an asshole, and the police were breaking the ****ing law because he asked them to.

This is wrong.

Jerm 11-18-2012 08:42 PM
Arrowhead = Nazi controlled Germany

stevenidol 11-18-2012 08:44 PM
So you need mask to pass out fliers at a publicly owned stadium?

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...869d3256e0.jpg

Hammock Parties 11-18-2012 08:47 PM
The SOC FB page has gained about 1000 new likes tonight.

Iowanian 11-18-2012 08:48 PM
I'm pondering coming to next week's game against my better judgement.


I'm not sure If I'd come as Kenny Powers or a pregnant nun.......but definitely in the color of mourning.

Dylan 11-18-2012 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9131514)
Exactly what charges were they going to press? It is NOT illegal to pass out handbills in public (so long as they aren't commercial in nature). As a matter of fact there is plenty of precedent protecting the activity.

For those who claim that Arrowhead's parking lot is "private property".. doesn't matter. Not one single bit. It is considered a "public space" just like a shopping mall... something the courts have ruled on many times in the past.

Now, that being said, it doesn't mean some idiot cop won;t arrest you and then take the heat for it later... but it does mean that you are protected legally if you want to go that route.

My guess is that security started to back down after someone with the Chiefs contacted their attorneys and they were told they'd be in deep shite if they actually took any action.
Here is some information from Kansas City Chiefs official Web site that you might find useful:

ARROWHEAD STADIUM

GUEST CODE OF CONDUCT
The Chiefs are committed to creating a safe, comfortable and enjoyable experience for their fans, both inside Arrowhead Stadium and throughout our parking areas. When attending an event at Arrowhead Stadium, all fans should be aware of and comply with the Fan Code of Conduct.

Stadium and parking lot staff will promptly intervene to support an environment where all event patrons can enjoy the event. Guests attending events are required to refrain from the following behaviors:

Behavior that is unruly, disruptive or illegal in nature.
Intoxication or other signs of alcohol or substance impairment.
Foul or abusive language or obscene gestures.
Interference with the progress of the event, going onto the field or throwing objects onto the field.
Failing to follow instructions of stadium personnel.
Verbal or physical harassment of other guests.
Smoking, except in designated areas.
Obscene or indecent clothing or signs.
Behavior that detracts from the day-of-event enjoyment of fellow guests.
Attempting to sit in a location other than the guest’s ticketed seat.
Conduct that endangers spectators or participants.
Selling items or tickets in-stadium or within the Truman Sports Complex.

Event patrons are responsible for their conduct as well as the conduct of their guests and/or persons using their tickets. Please respect the rights of others. We thank you for adhering to the provisions of the Fan Code of Conduct.

If you have any questions or need assistance, please contact Customer Relations at 816.920.4237 or customerrelations@kcchiefs.org . On event day, you may contact the fan hotline beginning three hours prior to the event start time until one hour after the conclusion of the event at 816.920.9300.
If you see something suspicious in or around Arrowhead Stadium, inform the nearest police office or security representative. If you would like to remain anonymous, you may text “CHIEFS”YOUR LOCATION AND ISSUES to 69050. Standard SMS rates apply. Fans can text three hours prior to the start of the event, during the event and 30 minutes post event.
http://goarrowhead.com/code-of-conduct/

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The following items permitted into Arrowhead Stadium
Banners
http://goarrowhead.com/prohibited-allowed/

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Banners are permitted as long as they do not interfere with other guests and are no larger than 3′ x 5′.
http://goarrowhead.com/stadium-information/b/

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Season Ticket Holders
http://goarrowhead.com/season-ticket-holders/


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