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Rain Man 07-23-2021 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 15752255)
Reid on Frank Clark's two arrests: He's spoken with him, but won't get into details. "Frank will be here and we'll go forward with that." Will report with veterans as planned
I wonder if Frank was slightly off camera brandishing a gun. Did Andy look nervous?

Chief Roundup 07-24-2021 11:46 AM
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Holladay 07-24-2021 01:35 PM
TL;DR

Cliff notes? Anything new?

poolboy 07-24-2021 04:06 PM
after listening, makes me wonder if his second arrest motivated the prosecutor to charge a felony on the first gun charge even though the first offense was a "wobbler"

jettio 07-24-2021 08:08 PM
I think the tv news report I saw on a recent court date said that Frank Clark was not the only one charged with the March offense. If the security person was charged also, that should be reported more than it is.

Seems like the guest on the radio show does not know that the other guy may have been charged also.

The guest is also mistaken that the NFL policy says Exempt list for any felony. Exempt list is used for suspected crimes involving violence or sexual assault. Illegal firearm possession is subject to personal conduct policy, but not necessarily would it be something that would be punished while case is pending.

Chief Roundup 07-24-2021 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15753941)
I think the tv news report I saw on a recent court date said that Frank Clark was not the only one charged with the March offense. If the security person was charged also, that should be reported more than it is.

Seems like the guest on the radio show does not know that the other guy may have been charged also.

The guest is also mistaken that the NFL policy says Exempt list for any felony. The exempt list is used for suspected crimes involving violence or sexual assault. Illegal firearm possession is subject to personal conduct policy, but not necessarily would it be something that would be punished while the case is pending.
Every NFL analyst I have heard has said that Frank could end up on the Commissioners exempt list at any time. It is completely up to Goodell's discretion.

staylor26 07-24-2021 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15753962)
Every NFL analyst I have heard has said that Frank could end up on the Commissioners exempt list at any time. It is completely up to Goodell's discretion.
I don’t doubt that it’s a possibility, but I also don’t think it actually happens considering this is a victimless crime and Goodell has kind of chilled out the last few years.

jettio 07-24-2021 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15753962)
Every NFL analyst I have heard has said that Frank could end up on the Commissioners exempt list at any time. It is completely up to Goodell's discretion.
Does William Hill sportsbook have odds on it?

I doubt that this is an exempt list case. There is no person mistreated and the alleged offense is not even a crime in most of the states where the NFL has teams.

I am sure NFL legal is also concerned about an argument that LA cops are making pretextual traffic stops knowing the car is expensive and owned by a black athlete who plays for a team in the same division as the team from the city where the cops work.

Do you have examples of exempt list for something where no identifiable person mistreated and no driving intoxicated?

poolboy 07-24-2021 09:29 PM
its complicated af....seems like there are several ways this could go

Chief Roundup 07-25-2021 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 15753977)
Does William Hill sportsbook have odds on it?

I doubt that this is an exempt list case. There is no person mistreated and the alleged offense is not even a crime in most of the states where the NFL has teams.

I am sure NFL legal is also concerned about an argument that LA cops are making pretextual traffic stops knowing the car is expensive and owned by a black athlete who plays for a team in the same division as the team from the city where the cops work.

Do you have examples of exempt list for something where no identifiable person mistreated and no driving intoxicated?
This is a violation of the personal conduct policy is what I remember them all talking about.
Get out of here with that NFL divisional rival stuff. That is ludicrous. Getting a felony charge for an assault weapon and then getting another arrest for a similar if not worse type of gun to be in possession of in that state.

staylor26 07-25-2021 01:03 PM
Watson is reporting to camp and has yet to be placed on the exempt list.

If he doesn’t get placed on there, I don’t see any way Clark does.

duncan_idaho 07-25-2021 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15754348)
Watson is reporting to camp and has yet to be placed on the exempt list.

If he doesn’t get placed on there, I don’t see any way Clark does.
Excellent point.

jettio 07-25-2021 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15754113)
This is a violation of the personal conduct policy is what I remember them all talking about.
Get out of here with that NFL divisional rival stuff. That is ludicrous. Getting a felony charge for an assault weapon and then getting another arrest for a similar if not worse type of gun to be in possession of in that state.
Not every violation of personal conduct policy is a commissioner exempt list case.

Clark will not be put on exempt list. He will not be disciplined under personal conduct policy until cases are resolved. Nobody called the police on him.

Sherman actually made people fearful and the police were called and his case may not even be exempt list. He even is facing a dui involved single car accident and it probably is not an exempt list case.

I was kidding about the idea that LA cops are Chargers fans, but I bet the NFL investigation will ask whether or not the traffic stops were pretextual.

Megatron96 07-25-2021 10:00 PM
Hmm.

A stock Uzi weighs just over 7 lbs., and fires the ubiquitous 9mm Luger round, which exerts a measured 5.7 lbs. of recoil energy, or less than the weight of the firearm. It should exhibit almost no muzzle rise even when firing full auto.

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A MAC-10/11 however, due to its short length, high bore axis, etc. was well-known for muzzle rise.

Jerm 07-25-2021 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15754348)
Watson is reporting to camp and has yet to be placed on the exempt list.

If he doesn’t get placed on there, I don’t see any way Clark does.
Came to post this….100% agree.


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