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siberian khatru 02-25-2020 10:23 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/V8OUwqDPHL">pic.twitter.com/V8OUwqDPHL</a></p>&mdash; Brady McConnell (@Brady_M27) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brady_M27/status/1232134967313993731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 02-25-2020 11:36 AM

2020 Royals Official Offseason/Season Repository
 
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14811804)
In DM’s book “if these walls could talk” of whatever it was called, Bob Boone met Granger after he signed, being pick #5. He was told Granger had a slider like Steve Carlton whom Boone had once caught in Philly.


He did a bullpen session with him and said afterwards “More like Chris Haney” (a soft tossing journeyman we had at the time)

Yikes. Yeah, it was clear early that Granger actually sucked.

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14811934)
pic.twitter.com/V8OUwqDPHL— Brady McConnell (@Brady_M27) February 25, 2020


Yikes. Right organization to be in, then. They have a good track record with situations like that.

BWillie 02-25-2020 11:47 AM

I can't decide what I hate more ...Spring Training or the NFL Draft. Both are brutal.

Discuss Thrower 02-25-2020 11:51 AM

"Seeked"

Titty Meat 02-25-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14811696)

That's not Jose Rosado you scumbag. He would have been the best Royals pitcher since Appier

RockChalk 02-25-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14812063)
"Seeked"

Let's be fair here...if we did a poll and somehow could verify that not a single CP member looked up the proper past-tense verb, I would bet that more than half of the regular posting members on here would believe that to be an actual word.

Bob Dole 02-25-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 14812513)
Let's be fair here...if we did a poll and somehow could verify that not a single CP member looked up the proper past-tense verb, I would bet that more than half of the regular posting members on here would believe that to be an actual word.

Only if they sought the correct tense would they know?

Mecca 02-26-2020 01:09 PM

I listened to Lefebvre basically say Royals fans don't like Matheny cause he was with the Cardinals...yea that's it.

RockChalk 02-26-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14814013)
I listened to Lefebvre basically say Royals fans don't like Matheny cause he was with the Cardinals...yea that's it.

I think he calls a good game.

But as far as being in touch with the majority of the fan base, he doesn't have a clue. Basically a DM minion.

WhawhaWhat 02-26-2020 02:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In his second Cactus League appearance, Brady Singer needs just 13 pitches (7 strikes) to retire Chicago&#39;s Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and Javier Baez on three ground balls. 92-93 MPH. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1232763221750104064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cabletech94 02-26-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14814123)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In his second Cactus League appearance, Brady Singer needs just 13 pitches (7 strikes) to retire Chicago&#39;s Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and Javier Baez on three ground balls. 92-93 MPH. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1232763221750104064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

yes, i know its spring training and all but, BONER!!!!!

Jerok 02-26-2020 07:23 PM

I want this year to be a #1 overall pick kind of year. Let Singer sit one more year in the minors, no need to rush him to the majors or to start his 6 years.

On the other hand, I'm fine with the Royals sucking for awhile, Mahomes is a Chief, I'm content. Hopefully the Royals surprise us in 2025 and make a run.

nychief 02-26-2020 07:36 PM

Lynch looked filthy today.

Discuss Thrower 02-26-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14814123)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In his second Cactus League appearance, Brady Singer needs just 13 pitches (7 strikes) to retire Chicago&#39;s Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and Javier Baez on three ground balls. 92-93 MPH. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1232763221750104064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Trade him and Merrifield for two top 75 prospects.

dlphg9 02-26-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14814517)
Trade him and Merrifield for two top 75 prospects.

Thatd be pretty ****ing terrible and would probably get DM axed.

OKchiefs 02-26-2020 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14814645)
Thatd be pretty ****ing terrible and would probably get DM axed.

Then that's a good thing 👌

But no, don't trade Singer. And we've probably missed the boat on trading Merrifield.

dlphg9 02-26-2020 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14814679)
Then that's a good thing 👌

But no, don't trade Singer. And we've probably missed the boat on trading Merrifield.

Dayton will be bad enough with every other aspect of his job that he won't have to trade off one of our few great pitching prospects during a rebuild for a shit prospect.

KChiefs1 02-27-2020 12:25 PM

https://theathletic.com/1615837/2020...s-city-royals/

Keith Law’s Prospects Rankings:

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The strength of this system remains the 2018 draft class, which should start to make its mark on the major-league club’s rotation this year, while their class of top position-player prospects stalled out badly in High A Wilmington last year.

The Top 10

1. Daniel Lynch, LHP (Top 100 rank: No. 13)

From the Top 100: If it wasn’t for Padres prospect MacKenzie Gore, Lynch might have the best pure stuff of any lefty prospect in the minors. Lynch hit 99 mph in the Fall Stars Game in the Arizona Fall League, and regularly worked from 94-97 during the season with a plus slider and an above-average changeup, mixing in a two-seamer and curveball as well. He starts on the extreme third-base side of the rubber, keeping him well online to the plate through his delivery, and extends very well out front to make use of his long 6-foot-6 frame. He’s a good athlete, but still somewhat gangly, and doesn’t repeat his delivery as well as he should just yet, so his command and control are behind the stuff. He also missed part of the summer due to a sore shoulder; the Royals shut him down for precautionary reasons, and he finished the year healthy and with the same velocity he had had before the injury. He’s really not far away and has the highest ceiling of any of the Royals’ stable of legit starting pitching prospects.

2. Bobby Witt Jr., SS (Top 100 rank: No. 47)

From the Top 100: The Royals took Witt with the second pick in the 2019 draft, one slot ahead of where his father was selected in 1985. Unlike his dad, Witt Jr. is a position player, a shortstop with three pretty promising tools right now in his speed, arm and glove, but he faces questions about his ability to hit and make contact. Witt is a 70 runner (on the 20-to-80 scouting scale) with an outstanding arm, having earned some interest as a prospect on the mound when he was younger, and he has the actions and footwork to become a plus defender at shortstop, perhaps even better than that. At the plate, he has a simple swing but can collapse his back side, which makes his swing longer and pulls his bat uphill. It’ll produce more power but at the cost of less contact over time. He does have a good approach at the plate and isn’t a free swinger, so this is a matter of getting him to stay upright through contact, not overhauling his approach or teaching him to recognize pitches.

Witt turned 19 right after the draft and will play at 20 this year, so there’s a bit more pressure on him to hit now, but his ceiling is still very high given his other tools, and the potential for him to become a plus hitter if the Royals can iron out that back-leg issue.

3. Jackson Kowar, RHP

Kowar has the best mixture of upside and floor of any of the Royals’ pitching prospects after Lynch, thanks to a changeup that is a 70 on its best nights and above-average control. His fastball can be plus, but he lacks a consistent breaking ball, with a curveball now but a slider probably being his ultimate third pitch. He’s a back-end starter as is, but I see No. 2 potential if he develops even an average breaking ball.

4. Khalil Lee, OF

Lee should have hit for more power in Northwest Arkansas, and he still struck out a bit too often. But for a 21-year-old in Double-A, he had a solid year, especially in terms of getting on base; on Aug. 1, he had a .379 OBP for the year, then had his worst month and it dropped to .363 by year’s end. The bigger issue with Lee’s bat is that he hits the ball on the ground way too often for someone with above-average power, nearly 60 percent across a year-plus in Double-A now, a function of how deep he lets the ball get before committing. He has a cannon of an arm and can handle all three outfield spots, so if he gets to even average game power, he’s a regular with upside beyond that.

5. Kris Bubic, LHP

Bubic projects as a fourth starter right now with an average fastball, plus changeup and great deception but just a fringy curveball that led to him having a significant reverse platoon split last year, with lefties posting 114 more points of OBP against him and 155 points more in terms of slugging percentage.

6. Brady Singer, RHP

Singer has an above-average fastball, plus slider and an above-average curveball while pitching from a low arm slot that makes him death to right-handed hitters but leaves him vulnerable to lefties, who posted a .352 OBP against him last year. He doesn’t have a changeup that’s even close to average, and his slot makes it hard for him to go inside to left-handed batters. He’s aggressive and throws strikes, but I don’t know how he can start without a way to get lefties out more consistently.

7. Kyle Isbel, OF

Isbel’s season was wrecked by a hamstring injury then a broken hamate, the latter of which sapped any power he might have had after he finally came back in mid-July. He hit .176/.236/.277 the rest of the way, with just a .209 BABIP that I think reflected his lack of hand strength, not an inability to hit. He has had trouble with velocity when I’ve seen him, even before the injuries, but he’s athletic enough, with above-average speed and some quickness in his wrists, that he should get a mulligan on 2019 and a shot to re-prove himself once healthy this season.

8. Brady McConnell, SS

McConnell was the Royals’ second-round pick in 2019, a draft-eligible sophomore out of the University of Florida who has first-round tools but has never produced in that way. He’s an outstanding athlete and plus runner who doesn’t steal bases, and he has good bat speed but strikes out way too often (39 percent in short-season ball after he signed) and doesn’t walk that often. He doesn’t project as a shortstop; it sounds like the Royals see him as a center fielder in the long term, and he certainly has the speed to play there and be an asset. He really must hit first, then the possibility of him being a regular somewhere comes into play.

9. Brewer Hicklen, OF

Hicklen is a 70 runner and will occasionally post 80 run times out of the box, and he’s not afraid to work deep into the count to try to get on base, with at least average power but probably not enough contact right now to call him a future everyday player. He’d be a superb extra outfielder who can substitute at all three spots, pinch-run and provide a right-handed option off the bench who smokes lefties. If he develops a better two-strike approach, he could be a solid regular.

10. Seuly Matias, OF

Matias has 80 power and swings at everything in sight — including cutting right through or under fastballs — and it was all exacerbated by his attempt to play through a broken hand to start 2019. His season ended on June 11, by which point he was hitting .148 with a 44-percent strikeout rate … But did I mention the 80 power? He should return to High-A to start 2020 with a healthy hand, and we’ll see if the Royals’ efforts to simplify his swing and get him to stay “in” his legs more so there’s less up-and-down to his hands pay off with more contact.

The next 10

11. Alec Marsh, RHP

The second of the Royals’ two second-round picks in the 2019 draft, Marsh is a very advanced pitcher with a four-pitch mix but nothing truly plus. He should move very quickly, probably starting 2020 in High-A and finishing in Double-A as Kowar and Singer did. He walked just 4 batters in 33 1/3 innings after signing.

12. Austin Cox, RHP

Cox started 2019 in Low-A because Wilmington’s rotation was already full of guys they’d drafted ahead of him, but he finished the year in High-A and pitched extremely well at both levels, enough to suggest that he’s not far behind Singer or Bubic as a prospect. He’s filled out his 6-foot-4 frame — he’s now about 240 pounds, according to the Royals — and can sit up to 94-95 mph with his fastball to go with a 12-to-6 curveball (which serves as his out pitch) and a delivery he can repeat. He should be at least a back-end starter but has some upside from there, probably more so than Marsh with a little more variability.

13. MJ Melendez, C

Melendez has an 80 arm, has really improved his catching technique since signing — including calming down back there so he’s better able to receive the ball — and has power, but he was part of the “Terrible Trio” of Royals hitting prospects in Wilmington, hitting .163/.260/.311 with a 39.3-percent strikeout rate. There’s nothing positive in that performance. I saw a lot of Wilmington — it’s my local team — and Melendez struggled with all pitch types and locations, even fastballs, and lefties especially dominated him. He’s 21 with a lot of ability, but all three guys could use a hard reset.

14. Nick Pratto, 1B

Pratto is the third of those three Blue Rocks prospects and his season was arguably the worst of all, as his value is entirely tied up in his hit tool, yet he hit .191/.278/.310 with a 34.7-percent strikeout rate, struggling with good velocity and breaking stuff from lefties when I saw him. He’s a smart player, an above-average base stealer despite having below-average speed, but he wasn’t ready for High-A pitching at all, and he doesn’t have the power of a Matias or defensive value of a Melendez to help him get by without hitting.

15. Zack Haake, RHP

Haake had a first-round arm but caught the “University of Kentucky forearm flu” that has hit a lot of Wildcats pitchers the past few years, so he pitched poorly that spring and slipped to the sixth round. He has been up to 99 mph but sometimes pitches at 92-93, always with big life on the pitch. His secondary stuff is inconsistent, and he has had intermittent shoulder soreness since he signed. His delivery isn’t very easy or free, and I think ends up a reliever who sits high-90s and gets a lot of swings and misses on the fastball.

16. Erick Peña, OF

Peña is still just 16, having signed an international contract with the Royals in July for a $3.8 million bonus, but he’s already strong with a great frame that you can see as a future middle-of-the-order bat. He has plus bat speed and a good swing for hard, line-drive contact already.

17. Jonathan Bowlan, RHP

Bowlan looks like he should be throwing 100 straight downhill, but he’s more 90-94 with sink on some pitches but not all, and his three secondary offerings are all fringy to below-average. If he could sink the fastball more consistently, we could say he was throwing “Bowlan balls” … but he doesn’t, so we can’t. He throws a ton of strikes and his 6-foot-6 frame and higher slot give him some deception, but I can’t see more than a back-end starter without better pure stuff.

18. Michael Gigliotti, OF

Gigliotti came back midyear from an ACL injury that had ended his 2018 season after just six games. His plus-plus running speed is still there, but his swing is too inside-out and he needs to focus on increasing contact, as he’s always going to be a small-ball hitter and should embrace that. He can handle center Field well, and his speed would give him impact if he just shows a propensity to get on base more.

19. Carlos Hernandez, RHP

Hernandez missed half the year with a broken rib, but when he came back for instructs, he was at 98-101 mph. He has had so many injuries that he has never exceeded 79 innings in a season and is almost certainly ticketed for a relief role.

20. Jeison Guzman, SS

Guzman is a potential 70 defender at short with huge range — his lofty error total there (33) is a function of how many balls he can get to — but his bat is still behind because he needs to add strength. Even while repeating Low-A last year at age 20, he hit only .253/.296/.373, putting the ball in play often but far too little impact.

Others of note

Right-hander Yefri Del Rosario missed the 2019 season due to a nerve issue in his shoulder. He has a big arm but is not very advanced as a pitcher and even prior to the injury seemed more likely to end up in the bullpen. … Right-hander Tyler Zuber sits 93-95 mph with a hard but inconsistent slider, attacking hitters in the zone with the fastball as a one-inning reliever. … Lefty Foster Griffin had a small bounce-back last year as the Royals helped him shorten his arm stroke, so his curveball got tighter and he was more 90-91 mph. He could be a fifth starter as long as MLB isn’t using the Happy Fun Ball this year. … Lefty Daniel Tillo is now in the bullpen, where he’s 96-plus with heavy sink and good tilt on a slider, with everything he throws (including a changeup) coming from the same spot. But so far he hasn’t missed as many bats as he should with this kind of stuff. … I admit to some curiosity over lefty Justin Hooper, who threw just two-thirds of an inning for UCLA last spring, didn’t pitch in 2018 after Tommy John surgery or this summer after signing, but way back in high school would bump mid-90s from a tough low-arm slot that made him interesting if not an actual prospect.

2020 impact

It wouldn’t shock me to see Singer, Kowar or Lynch debut at some point this year; they aren’t that far away from the majors, and the Royals will probably need the pitching. Griffin could debut before any of those guys but lacks any ceiling.

The fallen

Scott Blewett was Kansas City’s second-round pick in 2014 and made slow progress up the ladder, always showing better stuff than results, but 2019 was a fiasco as he gave up a run an inning in Triple-A and allowed 24 homers across 81 1/3 innings pitched.

Sleeper

Austin Cox is the most intriguing of their prospects after their top tier, showing at least flashes of the stuff you’d expect from a mid-rotation starter.

Prison Bitch 02-27-2020 12:35 PM

This is the first time I’ve ever been FOR someone posting copyright material. Thx

ChiefsCountry 02-27-2020 04:59 PM

FYI - YouTube TV is dropping FOX Sports Regionals. Guess that means off to Hulu Live for me.

duncan_idaho 02-27-2020 05:11 PM

Welp. Was just about to cut the cord. **** that now.

Mecca 02-27-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14815904)
Welp. Was just about to cut the cord. **** that now.

Just do what I do...trade.

ChiefsCountry 02-27-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14815904)
Welp. Was just about to cut the cord. **** that now.

I had just cut DirectTV and went to YouTubeTV. I was very pleased but if I cant get the FSN regionals then adios. Looks like Hulu Live is similar to YouTube TV.

arrowheadnation 02-28-2020 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14815893)
FYI - YouTube TV is dropping FOX Sports Regionals. Guess that means off to Hulu Live for me.

I'll probably do this too, but they don't have AMC....sigh*

dlphg9 02-28-2020 01:03 AM

When did Lynch become so highly regarded. I know he's been a good prospect, but Keith Law ranking him ahead of Witt Jr. seems crazy.

duncan_idaho 02-28-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14816545)
When did Lynch become so highly regarded. I know he's been a good prospect, but Keith Law ranking him ahead of Witt Jr. seems crazy.


His stuff bumped up during his final year of college/pro debut, so that’s a big part of it.

Law is also a sucker for big lefties with stuff. Just like I am.

WhawhaWhat 02-28-2020 10:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Salvy is behind the plate today against San Francisco.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AlwaysRoyal?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AlwaysRoyal</a> // <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoyalsST?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RoyalsST</a> <a href="https://t.co/72mPHFBFn7">pic.twitter.com/72mPHFBFn7</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1233415654067208194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sure-Oz 03-01-2020 08:08 PM

@FlannyMLB: For those who have asked (several times) about Royals’ 2015 first-round pick Ashe Russell, he is rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. He is here is Arizona.

He had TJ? Forgot about this guy again

dallaschiefsfan 03-02-2020 10:56 AM

Keith Law's farm system rankings posted to the Athletic this morning. Royals at 12.

Mecca 03-02-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 14820955)
Keith Law's farm system rankings posted to the Athletic this morning. Royals at 12.

That is a solid move up however to rebuild this team through the farm it has to climb more and some of these hitters need to remove their heads from their asses.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-02-2020 05:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anthony Rizzo mic’d up &amp; taking a shot at the Houston Astros <a href="https://t.co/B9RlTzO5rt">pic.twitter.com/B9RlTzO5rt</a></p>&mdash; David Santana (@dsantana310) <a href="https://twitter.com/dsantana310/status/1234591819415146498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Archie F. Swin 03-03-2020 05:49 AM

Is there such a thing as a good Royals podcast?

KChiefs1 03-03-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 14820955)
Keith Law's farm system rankings posted to the Athletic this morning. Royals at 12.


12. Kansas City Royals

Pitching they’ve got, thanks to a bumper crop of college pitchers selected in 2018 that should start to impact the major-league roster this year. The position player group lags well behind, with some very talented players in the system who have not converted their physical gifts into production yet, led by the troika of high-profile hitters — Nick Pratto, MJ Melendez and Seuly Matias — who struggled in High-A Wilmington last year, even as the parade of future rotation regulars passed through Delaware (paying a $4 toll).

WhawhaWhat 03-03-2020 07:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight&#39;s Diamondbacks-Royals game is being delayed &quot;as police work to resolve a situation at the center-field gate.&quot; They have not announced a start time. It had been scheduled to begin at 6:05 p.m.</p>&mdash; Nick Piecoro (@nickpiecoro) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickpiecoro/status/1235004656285175810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

nychief 03-03-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14823359)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight&#39;s Diamondbacks-Royals game is being delayed &quot;as police work to resolve a situation at the center-field gate.&quot; They have not announced a start time. It had been scheduled to begin at 6:05 p.m.</p>&mdash; Nick Piecoro (@nickpiecoro) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickpiecoro/status/1235004656285175810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Coronavirus!!

Why Not? 03-03-2020 09:38 PM

Looks like a bomb sniffing dog had a false alarm on a vehicle in the parking lot

WhawhaWhat 03-03-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14823665)
Looks like a bomb sniffing dog had a false alarm on a vehicle in the parking lot

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to a Surprise city official, a routine check of a dealership display vehicle in front of the stadium set off the &quot;explosive detected&quot; alarm, causing the delay. A Surprise explosive ordinance dispersal team later determined there was no threat.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1235021676326207488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 03-04-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14823665)
Looks like a bomb sniffing dog had a false alarm on a vehicle in the parking lot

That dogs going to be looking for a new job soon.

jimidollar 03-04-2020 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 14823665)
Looks like a bomb sniffing dog had a false alarm on a vehicle in the parking lot

Maybe he really smelled drugs.

Why Not? 03-04-2020 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14823967)
That dogs going to be looking for a new job soon.

Lol

Prison Bitch 03-04-2020 08:22 AM

Epic SABR takedown of Eric Hosmer by Dan Symborski:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-padr...-base-problem/


Essentially he was negative WAR value his two years. The only player in the last 35 years of data who had two awful years and got a 3rd year as a FT regular, Roger Cedeno, lost his job afterwards.

It’s a series of stats, but boy is that contract a Pujols-level albatross. ZiPS now predicts his next 6 years will be worth 1.8 wins. TOTAL.

dlphg9 03-04-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14824168)
Epic SABR takedown of Eric Hosmer by Dan Symborski:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-padr...-base-problem/


Essentially he was negative WAR value his two years. The only player in the last 35 years of data who had two awful years and got a 3rd year as a FT regular, Roger Cedeno, lost his job afterwards.

It’s a series of stats, but boy is that contract a Pujols-level albatross. ZiPS now predicts his next 6 years will be worth 1.8 wins. TOTAL.

Thank God the Padres saved DM and us from making that mistake. I doubt it would have gotten him fired and even if it did I don't think him getting canned would be worth the burden that a shit contract like that would have put on us. Hell, Ian Kennedy and Alex Gordon's contracts combined aren't anywhere close to as bad as Hosmer's. Talk about a guy that got paid and said "**** it, let's see if I can dig a hole to China by pounding the ball into the ground!".

FringeNC 03-04-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14824168)
Epic SABR takedown of Eric Hosmer by Dan Symborski:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-padr...-base-problem/


Essentially he was negative WAR value his two years. The only player in the last 35 years of data who had two awful years and got a 3rd year as a FT regular, Roger Cedeno, lost his job afterwards.

It’s a series of stats, but boy is that contract a Pujols-level albatross. ZiPS now predicts his next 6 years will be worth 1.8 wins. TOTAL.

The guy never improved or made any type of adjustment. He's still the same hitter he was when he was called up in 2011. He can fool you with some good streaks, but always reverts back. Guy is what he is -- a .768 OPS hitter -- which sucks at 1b.

duncan_idaho 03-04-2020 12:08 PM

Yeah, that was a bullet dodged. The fall-off has been really rapid.

His stubborness about his hitting approach is incredibly frustrating and something I'd be watching for with draft prospects for the rest of time.

Mecca 03-04-2020 12:10 PM

Eric Hosmers #1 problem is thinking his brother is a better hitting coach than dudes employed in the MLB, he does not listen to anyone where if he was more coachable he'd probably be a lot better.

Prison Bitch 03-04-2020 12:16 PM

I’d have gone 5/90 or 6/100 on him after 17. People forget, after a bad April where he was clearly pressing, he hit .330 the last 5 months with an OBP over .400 and wRC+ north of 150.

He seemed a cinch to do a 3/2/2/2/1/0 war run. So 10 wins @8M = $80M value as a certainty, with upside (he did 4.1 his walk year).

It’s easy to armchair QB this one but holy hell his first 2 years in SD have been shockingly bad.

Chiefspants 03-04-2020 12:17 PM

The dude got a ring, delivered in clutch moments, delivered in his most clutch (contract) year, married Kacie, earned a 144 million dollar deal and by all accounts is treating it as a retirement on the beaches of San Diego.

Thank God the Royals got outbid here, even thought I have to admire Hosmer’s swag and stubbornness through this process (it’s who he has ALWAYS been).

Prison Bitch 03-04-2020 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14824566)
The dude got a ring, delivered in clutch moments, delivered in his clutch (contract year). Married Kacie, earned a 144 million dollar deal and by all accounts is treating it as a retirement in the beaches of San Diego.

Thank God the Royals got outbid here, as much as I have to admire Hosmer’s swag and stubbornness through this process (it’s who he has ALWAYS been).

No doubt, Faux-Hawk played the system perfectly.

I haven’t seen him play since he left (when is SD on anyway?), but the stats were showing an alarming inability to make contact. He and Moose always had good eyes, didn’t swing at much garbage and when they did could make contact. Hosmer went from 15% K to like 24% last year. If it came with 30+ jacks you could accept the “empty calories” as selling out for power. But didn’t even provide that.


Justin Smoak, 33, is the same player now, a few years older but a good comp. Smoak was non tendered by Toronto after a 20HR 101 wRC+ season and signed a 1/5 deal with Milwaukee. That’s what Hoz deserves.

duncan_idaho 03-04-2020 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14824563)
I’d have gone 5/90 or 6/100 on him after 17. People forget, after a bad April where he was clearly pressing, he hit .330 the last 5 months with an OBP over .400 and wRC+ north of 150.

He seemed a cinch to do a 3/2/2/2/1/0 war run. So 10 wins @8M = $80M value as a certainty, with upside (he did 4.1 his walk year).

It’s easy to armchair QB this one but holy hell his first 2 years in SD have been shockingly bad.

Yeah, that was where I was at.

Would have ended up similar to the Gordon deal - looked like great value at the time, ended up being underwater in a hurry.

KChiefs1 03-04-2020 05:11 PM

Alec Lewis Roster Projection:

Catchers (2)
Salvador Pérez, Cam Gallagher

Infielders (5)
Ryan O’Hearn, Ryan McBroom, Nicky Lopez, Adalberto Mondesi, Maikel Franco

Outfielders (5)
Alex Gordon, Whit Merrifield, Hunter Dozier, Bubba Starling, Brett Phillips

Designated hitter (1)
Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (5)
Brad Keller, Danny Duffy, Jacob Junis, Mike Montgomery, Jorge López

Relievers (8)
Ian Kennedy, Scott Barlow, Tim Hill, Trevor Rosenthal, Greg Holland, Glenn Sparkman, Josh Staumont, Jake Newberry

Prison Bitch 03-04-2020 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14824824)
Yeah, that was where I was at.

Would have ended up similar to the Gordon deal - looked like great value at the time, ended up being underwater in a hurry.


These FA moan about the lack of interest but look at these deals that don’t work. They kill you. About 5 clubs can absorb these deals without submarine for themselves. You can’t win without making at least SOME fA deals but can’t make big ones over 100m anymore.


Yelich just got 9-213 as a 7war guy. Betts was prob pissed. Losers like Hoz don’t help anyone.

Jerok 03-04-2020 07:16 PM

I decided to watch my first Royals Spring training game today. We won 9 to 7, but we were LOL bad. Three or four pop ups simply dropped, miscommunications, etc. The Padres were better for 8 and a half innings, but the Royals somehow got 6 in the first and hung on.

Demonpenz 03-04-2020 08:28 PM

Hosmer and Eric Berry crackin blunts together

Discuss Thrower 03-06-2020 03:09 PM

Anyone have fantasy resources that are top notch?

ChiefsCountry 03-06-2020 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14827888)
Anyone have fantasy resources that are top notch?

Find the most reliable 9 position players and load up on pitchers.

Discuss Thrower 03-06-2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 14827903)
Find the most reliable 9 position players and load up on pitchers.

Great so who figures out who those thirteen guys are before the season starts and where do they publish this information?

duncan_idaho 03-06-2020 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14827888)
Anyone have fantasy resources that are top notch?


Pitcherlist
Friends with Fantasy Benefits
The Sleeper and the Bust

What formats are you looking at? I’m pretty good in traditional snake drafts and dynamite at auction/keeper (if I do say so myself).

ChiefsCountry 03-06-2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14827920)
Great so who figures out who those thirteen guys are before the season starts and where do they publish this information?

Asking the wrong guy. I've always played leagues with unlimited waiver pickups. I was dropping and adding starters daily lol.

Discuss Thrower 03-06-2020 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14827995)
Pitcherlist
Friends with Fantasy Benefits
The Sleeper and the Bust

What formats are you looking at? I’m pretty good in traditional snake drafts and dynamite at auction/keeper (if I do say so myself).

Same one I've PM'd you about repeatedly over the last half decade.

duncan_idaho 03-06-2020 08:09 PM

Since it’s slow and I’m in fantasy baseball mode at the moment (I’m commish-ing so hard), a few things to think about:

1) don’t overpay for rookie SP this year. There’s no one so good you want to take them at current ADPs (but keep an eye on Nate Pearson and pounce when he’s about to get the call)

2) Nab an ace early ... unless you can get Acuna or Trout or Yelich, I think deGrom is one of the best values in round 1. Then you wait on pitching, IMO and spend the next 4-5 rounds building your lineup

3) don’t buy elite closers early if you have unlimited moves.

4) don’t sleep on Nellie Cruz. He’s still a beast and generally really undervalued in drafts.

5) keep an eye on Masahiro Tanaka. He didn’t have his split last year but looks to have found it this year (likes the ball better)

5b) don’t count on cheap Hr power. If the ball has higher seams (what Tanaka needs for his splitter) the trampoline ball may be gone.

Discuss Thrower 03-06-2020 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14828266)
Since it’s slow and I’m in fantasy baseball mode at the moment (I’m commish-ing so hard), a few things to think about:

1) don’t overpay for rookie SP this year. There’s no one so good you want to take them at current ADPs (but keep an eye on Nate Pearson and pounce when he’s about to get the call)

2) Nab an ace early ... unless you can get Acuna or Trout or Yelich, I think deGrom is one of the best values in round 1. Then you wait on pitching, IMO and spend the next 4-5 rounds building your lineup

3) don’t buy elite closers early if you have unlimited moves.

4) don’t sleep on Nellie Cruz. He’s still a beast and generally really undervalued in drafts.

5) keep an eye on Masahiro Tanaka. He didn’t have his split last year but looks to have found it this year (likes the ball better)

5b) don’t count on cheap Hr power. If the ball has higher seams (what Tanaka needs for his splitter) the trampoline ball may be gone.

I have done zero prep and our draft is in a few weeks (assuming Coronavirus doesn't kill us all -or worse, makes us cancel our trip-). I used Mr. Cheatsheet and had one of the worse seasons in the league.

By the nature of how our league has keepers, ADP doesn't apply as much since some top tier guys are kept in rounds later than the first.

Thanks for the recommendations on everything I hadn't heard beside Pitcherlist.

dlphg9 03-06-2020 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14828266)
Since it’s slow and I’m in fantasy baseball mode at the moment (I’m commish-ing so hard), a few things to think about:

1) don’t overpay for rookie SP this year. There’s no one so good you want to take them at current ADPs (but keep an eye on Nate Pearson and pounce when he’s about to get the call)

2) Nab an ace early ... unless you can get Acuna or Trout or Yelich, I think deGrom is one of the best values in round 1. Then you wait on pitching, IMO and spend the next 4-5 rounds building your lineup

3) don’t buy elite closers early if you have unlimited moves.

4) don’t sleep on Nellie Cruz. He’s still a beast and generally really undervalued in drafts.

5) keep an eye on Masahiro Tanaka. He didn’t have his split last year but looks to have found it this year (likes the ball better)

5b) don’t count on cheap Hr power. If the ball has higher seams (what Tanaka needs for his splitter) the trampoline ball may be gone.

How well would you envision an all Royals fantasy team turning turning out. You could easily pull it off and just think of how much chemistry your team would have and the massive advantage that chemistry would give you.

duncan_idaho 03-06-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14828272)
I have done zero prep and our draft is in a few weeks (assuming Coronavirus doesn't kill us all -or worse, makes us cancel our trip-). I used Mr. Cheatsheet and had one of the worse seasons in the league.



By the nature of how our league has keepers, ADP doesn't apply as much since some top tier guys are kept in rounds later than the first.



Thanks for the recommendations on everything I hadn't heard beside Pitcherlist.


I don’t like Mr. CheatSheet. I build my own excel sheet. It’s custom and has been growing/improving for the past decade.

For a league like that, you have to adjust ADP based on positions kept.

What are your keeper rules? If Wander Franco is available you should be on that.

Jarred Kelenic and Julio Rodriguez are guys to watch further out 2022).

Discuss Thrower 03-06-2020 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14828291)
I don’t like Mr. CheatSheet. I build my own excel sheet. It’s custom and has been growing/improving for the past decade.

For a league like that, you have to adjust ADP based on positions kept.

What are your keeper rules? If Wander Franco is available you should be on that.

Jarred Kelenic and Julio Rodriguez are guys to watch further out 2022).

Five keepers whose values the season after they are picked up by an owner elevates by one round depending on method of selection -either through the draft where they are worth one round higher than their draft slot or by in season FA pickup where they are a 14th round pick)

Only three bench spots so there's no real payoff for stashing a guy who might get a callup the year after the season.

My roster is garbage. Now I realize why I haven't looked at it. :facepalm:

dallaschiefsfan 03-06-2020 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14825067)
Alec Lewis Roster Projection:

Catchers (2)
Salvador Pérez, Cam Gallagher

Infielders (5)
Ryan O’Hearn, Ryan McBroom, Nicky Lopez, Adalberto Mondesi, Maikel Franco

Outfielders (5)
Alex Gordon, Whit Merrifield, Hunter Dozier, Bubba Starling, Brett Phillips

Designated hitter (1)
Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (5)
Brad Keller, Danny Duffy, Jacob Junis, Mike Montgomery, Jorge López

Relievers (8)
Ian Kennedy, Scott Barlow, Tim Hill, Trevor Rosenthal, Greg Holland, Glenn Sparkman, Josh Staumont, Jake Newberry

Of all these names, the one that consistently irks me is Hill. Not sure how he's earned "lock" status w/ Kennedy and Barlow. He's hardly picked up where he left off.

siberian khatru 03-24-2020 01:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New York Mets starter Noah Syndergaard has a torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow and is expected to undergo Tommy John surgery in the near future, sources tell ESPN. The procedure will keep him out until at earliest April 2021 and likely into the summer months.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1242536360147329026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Mecca 03-24-2020 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14864253)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New York Mets starter Noah Syndergaard has a torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow and is expected to undergo Tommy John surgery in the near future, sources tell ESPN. The procedure will keep him out until at earliest April 2021 and likely into the summer months.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1242536360147329026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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I actually like Syndergaard it's sad how the Mets have squandered the pitching talent they've had.

cmh6476 03-26-2020 01:42 PM

starting off the season hot:

http://www.strat-o-matic.com/2020-season-simulation/

WhawhaWhat 03-26-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14864281)
I actually like Syndergaard it's sad how the Mets have squandered the pitching talent they've had.

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Let his arm fall off.

Chiefspants 03-26-2020 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14869724)
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Let his arm fall off.

Remember when the MLB celebrated his old school bitch fit (because the Mets were too stupid to quit throwing Esky (and most of the lineup, actually) fastballs and played Noah’s “60 feet, 6 inches” line non-stop?

Pretty funny now that they’re doing everything they can to protect those poor, World Series winning cheaters that are the Astros.

lewdog 03-26-2020 03:52 PM

Looks like Dane won’t be right this year.....

We ain’t losing 100 games!!!

DJay23 03-27-2020 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14869958)
Remember when the MLB celebrated his old school bitch fit (because the Mets were too stupid to quit throwing Esky (and most of the lineup, actually) fastballs and played Noah’s “60 feet, 6 inches” line non-stop?

Pretty funny now that they’re doing everything they can to protect those poor, World Series winning cheaters that are the Astros.

**** them. We got the last laugh. They looked like petty little bitches then and even more so now that we know the outcome.

ChiefsCountry 03-27-2020 08:36 AM

Yesterday was such a perfect baseball day.

Mecca 03-27-2020 10:44 AM

The MLB and MLBPA agreed that no matter how many games are played this year will count as a year of service time as if it were a full year.

chiefqueen 03-27-2020 11:13 AM

Keith Olbermann is proposing a 32-game schedule with only divisional games being played in September and the playoffs being played under the current format in October.

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cmh6476 03-28-2020 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 14869602)

2-0, alone atop the division

Pasta Little Brioni 03-30-2020 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 14874201)
2-0, alone atop the division

Lulz. Realer than that supposed beaker 2020 title that was suuuuuuure to be awarded ROFL

ChiefsCountry 03-30-2020 01:26 PM

https://2020seasonsim.s3.amazonaws.c...+KC%40CHW.HTML
3-1 on season

Jorge Soler blasted 3 homeruns and had 6 RBI at Comerica Park where the Kansas
City team beat the Detroit ballclub by the score of 12 to 6.

Soler had a big day with his bat. He laced a one-base hit plating a run in
the 1st inning, lofted a three-run 'big-fly' in the 2nd inning, lofted a
solo-blast 'downtown' in the 7th inning and hit a bases-empty home run in the
9th inning. Offensively, Kansas City was a juggernaut. They scored in 6
separate innings.

The win went to Mike Montgomery(1-0) who allowed 2 runs in 5 innings. Daniel
Norris(0-1) was the loser. He was not very effective, surrendering 7 runs in
2 innings.

'I was really seeing the ball today,' Soler said 'I wish it was always this
easy.'

Infidel Goat 04-02-2020 08:13 AM

Joe Poz article today on "Favorite Player" Dan Quisenberry.

He's my all-time favorite Royal as well, and his is the only baseball player jersey I own. The article is worth the click (and The Athletic is offering 90 days of free access if you don't yet support).

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2C...nberryjpg.webp

siberian khatru 04-02-2020 10:15 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We mourn the death of Ed Farmer who passed away Wednesday night.<br><br>Farmer worked as a radio broadcaster for the Chicago White Sox for nearly 30 years, played 11 seasons in the major leagues, including three with his hometown White Sox, and was a strong advocate for organ donation. <a href="https://t.co/wx7itjfEYk">pic.twitter.com/wx7itjfEYk</a></p>&mdash; Chicago White Sox (@whitesox) <a href="https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1245697516097675264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If you're an old-time Royals fan, Ed Farmer was a villain. In one game in 1979, he hit two Royals with pitches -- broke Frank White's hand and Al Cowens' jaw. They each missed a month. The Royals finished second in the division by 3 games.

A year later, Cowens had been traded (first to the Angels, then to the Tigers). He faced Farmer again, and when he grounded out he ran straight to the mound and fought Farmer.


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