Apple fan boy types with more money
Just to reiterate
It ain't a truck
And Musk is bat shit crazy

Yuuuuck.

Don't know how i missed this post. First thing that came to me, Pontiac Aztek:

https://i.imgur.com/GFr8PBw.jpg

I take "it ain't a truck" back
It's a food truck

Is your main complaint that it's ugly?

Put a shitter on That thing and you could feed the homeless and clean up the streets at the same time in SFO

Not just ugly, but not functional as a truck.

Like i said earlier, it's an unconventionally designed electric Honda Ridgeline.

They shoulda marketed as some sort of Truck-SUV hybrid. I think it would be better received as such. But as a Truck? No way.

This.

And it'll explode/burst into flames if you get into an accident. So it has that going for it as well.

There are many legitimate criticisms of this thing. This isn't one of them.

This picture pretty much confirms it: Not functional as an actual truck. Here at the shop we make fun of these short-beds...because, well, you can't actually do much that's work/haul related because the bed is too small.

https://i.imgur.com/kWKcGuS.jpg

It's a truck for people who don't actually drive trucks. In short, it's a freakin' Honda Ridgeline.

Another way to look at it: It's a an SUV with an open cargo area.

To be fair, I have to imagine Tesla would be ecstatic if they sold on the level of Ridgelines.

EDIT: Eh, maybe not. Looks like those are only around 30k per year.

Other than the visuals of the vehicle, I don't know how anyone who owns trucks would not like or see the value in such a automobile...other than just being narrow minded.

You have never worked from a truck have you.

Hauling a big screen tv from the entertainment center doesn't count. For people who do its your office tools and equipment while on the road. In my case it also must transport a crew and their gear for out of town work. This Tesla thing is interesting but I wouldnt want to work out of it. My truck needs to be personalised not what a genius thinks works but what I know works. I build my bed box drawers to fit my needs. Id have to see it in person to know if I could configure it to my needs in the field. I have a good relation with our person in charge of fleet vehicles he is agreeable to my needs but Id get laughed out of the office pushing for that thing.

That's a pretty big market. Every truck manufacturer makes a truck with a bed that is smaller than the Tesla's.

The biggest strike against this truck for the worker who works from a pickup is when your out in middle of nowhere something goes wrong with it. Who the hell to call? Your stuck time is money that there seals its fate as a fleet truck. But this isn't the market Elon is after he is looking for the cool factor crowd.

It does seem like a new age Ford sport Trac or whatever those were called. Small bed, can haul the family around. They seemed to do well for a while

It has a bigger bed and seats more people. It's almost exactly like any current full size short bed crew cab truck, only electric.

Looks like a modern day El Camino

In the next iteration, I bet they get rid of the gas tank that doesn't do anything but store gasoline.

LMAO

I'm guessing this version is not meant to replace the F-350 super duty

It wont replace a working F150 or 1500 either.

Almost as though they didn't set out to design a work truck!

Whats the point of a truck then? A SUV would be a better alternative if your going to tow a boat or trailer for camping.

You'd have to ask the tens of millions of people driving trucks that rarely or never tow anything I suppose.

Well they are stupid I drive trucks for work most of my life. I own the biggest sedan I can afford for the comfort.

Aturnis just typed out a novella explaining how it can do everything my work pickup can do but 4000% better.

One of the two of you is wrong.

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One thing that’s odd about it is that it is so streamlined that it actually looks much lower and smaller than it is. Clearance looks low, headspace looks small, and the bed seems non existent. I imagine that alone is something truck people would have a hard time getting past.

For everyone complaining that it isn't and can never be a work truck: This isn't meant for you.

This is meant for the guys that drive $70,000 fully loaded half tons stuffed with leather seats and trim, bose audio, heating and cooling seats, etc. As somebody said above, think of it as an electric SUV with an open cargo area.

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You cannot haul as much with an SUV as you can with a truck. The bed of the truck is no limited height wise like the SUV, i.e. you can haul appliances as well as many many other things you cannot in an SUV.
Fewer and Fewer people are "camping". They either have an RV they pull or stay in motels.

Hmm, have you driven the newer, last 5 years, 4 door pickups or the Denali Yukon? They ride and have more comfortable seats than any large domestic sedan and most sedans under $40K.

I'll bet $20 this thing either never hits the road or comes out in some form that looks a lot more like a normal truck.

Well yes an $80,000 truck/SUV will probably have more comfortable seats that a $30,000 sedan, but that's not really a fair comparison.

They don't cost $80K and it was his parameters that I was working within for the comparison.

I'd be in on that if it weren't for the vagueness of what "looks more like a normal truck" means. Elon isn't known for starting things he won't finish, so I think you can be pretty confident that it'll come out eventually. And while I think they might tweak a few things in the look, I don't think you'll see them shift to a completely "normal look."

The timeline regarding when it comes out, however, is highly variable based on his past.

At a minimum he's gonna have to put side mirrors and headlights on it to even make it street legal

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Raise the roofline and flatten the pickup bed sides and you have something interesting.

The seats have to be raised like a normal truck. No way in hell can you have the seats sitting on the floor of a work vehicle.

As for the guts and the tech, BRING IT ON.

Well, yeah. It's pretty common for manufacturers to introduce their cars without those kinds of things, but they obviously have to add them to make them legal. I guess that's my issue with the "bet." Adding mirrors and lights will make it look "more like a normal truck," but that's hardly surprising.

For what it's worth, here's Telsa's roadster concept. No mirrors. But they'll be added by the time they reach production.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Xg...id-shojaee.jpg

I think it will have a lot more bends and a more obvious bed and more functional windows for viewing the road. It won't have curves so it will still be going for that angular stealth thing.

Unlike you I also think there's a chance it never comes to market and everyone just gets their money back. The tunnel thing he built in LA is basically a complete fraud.

It's not completed or anything, but they're starting to dig their tunnel system in Vegas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-digs-n1084131

I still see these everyday...
Perhaps Elon is not going after your everyday farmer, but there is a market.

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dim...HT322A0802.jpg



My neighbor has one of these...
Is it practical? nope. But he likes it and that is fine with me.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Qw...50-extreme.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/3603/3...1b3e018f_b.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/e7...c298a6f1c9.jpg

Remember this thing?

Yukon Denali definitely costs 75 anyway.

What happens when you get one to 88mph?

You're gonna see some serious shit.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by his parameters, the quote you responded to was in essence saying it is stupid for people to buy a truck when they don't actually use the truck functionality. I believe his point was that you can get a comfortable car for cheaper than a comfortable truck. Therefore it is stupid to pay more for truck features you never use.

I don't see how pointing out that a Yukon Denali that at the bare bones minimum is 68k MSRP would be more comfortable than any car below $40,000 has anything to do with that. Of course any vehicle that costs $30,000 more will generally have more comfortable seats. If you buy a $70,000 Mercedes sedan it will probably have more comfortable seats than any truck under $40,000, that's just common sense.

GM's flagship sedan the Impala in it's Premier trim package I'm sure uses similar materials for the seats that the Yukon Denali's use (it is the same manufacturer after all), but the vehicle starts over $30k cheaper. You're not paying for seats with that extra money the biggest things are the bigger motor, suspension, frame etc. that if you aren't towing/hauling anything are completely unnecessary.

Even if you need something 4wd you can get a Denali Terrain which would have the same Denali seats for about $40K.

I bet it converts to a gasoline engine.

What was the point of the El Camino?

My buddy owns a Raptor, which does 0-60 in like 5.

The Plaid Tesla is 2.9.

There’s probably a market for it.

Do you know how much he paid for his Raptor?

Like $70K.

It turns into a spaceship and heads for Mars.

Because Harley Earl was a design genious.

Don't bang your mom. :shrug:

Hot damn.

I hade to ride bitch from KC to Galveston and back - in between my stepdad and uncle in the front seat of an El Camino - as they bickered the entire drive. Can’t say I recommend it.

LMAO

Could have hopped in back....:shrug:

makes me sad i used to have an 80 el camino. i loved it. I ended up selling it for reasons unknown to this day! i dont know what i was thinking! so mad at myself for that.

I have an 84 that just got back from paint about two weeks ago.

He had a camper top and I've done long car rides with the dogs slobbering all over me the whole time. But the back was full this time.

my condolences...

On having to ride bitch & the bickering.

:doh!:

So it ugly and it's not functional as a truck b/c it has anglers bed rails?

Is there any other way "it isn't functional as a truck"?

For instance "can't have a toolbox and access things over the side".

You've got a under-bed trunk at the tailgate and a giant frunk under the hood. Why would you throw random small items behind the can anymore?

As a construction worker, the is NOTHING LESS FUNCTIONAL than a "toolbox" in the back of a truck.

Been around them for years and still haven't seen an organized one that works.

I'd probably prefer some sort or tool organization in the front trunk with a charger bank and batteries already plugged in charging. Could easily fit multiple impacts, drills, saw all, portaban, hammerdrill etc up there organized and charged.

Throw the rest under the bed or in the side rail storage. I'd have a 100% clear 6.5' bed with all my tooling at all times.

You city guys are going to have to explain to me how it doesn't function as a truck. It blows away any setup I've dealt with in years.

P.S. Truck toolboxs are dumb and only serve the purpose of signaling to other truck drivers that you're not a "poser".

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Again, it can carry 4 X 8 sheet goods flat with the tailgate down. Tell me how this isn't functional....

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Just bough a washer and dryer, need to get it home.

When I get home I’ll get a picture and listing of all the shit that’s in mine.

I assure you I’m not a poser.

Clearance is 6 inches more than anything in class, the bed is 4.5' X 6.5' and headspace for the driver is more than any trick on the market.

I get it. You guys think it's ugly and it's electric so I hate it. But it literally outperforms any F- 150 in everyday outside of a full-size 8ft bed.

Y'all are grasping at straws.

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Agree. Bigger cab though and no transmission tunnel. No different than backseat bitch now.

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Cool. Load it up.

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It can't be organized. It's literally impossible.

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To say truck boxes are dumb is as ignorant as shit.

Just because you or the people you have been around don’t know how to properly make use of them does not mean they are dumb. We have used them on our farm for years and have multiple trucks with them. I have made custom shelves to store batteries for power tools, shelves for ratchets and sockets, spots to hold the power tools that require the batteries.

Cool. Put it under the hood. More functional and accessible anyways.

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You're ****ing reeruned. And that's coming from someone who would jump all over the equivalent of a reliable 4-500 mile electric 4x4 3/4 ton if i could strip down all the ignorant shit they're going to force us to buy in order to own it.

... and fyi, half the people you're discussing this with are not "city guys". LMAO

How is it more functional and accessible for me? How is it more functional for my tools to be in the front and my work area in the back? How is spending my time walking circles around the truck better than taking 2 steps to the side of one of the trucks?

I hope like hell this succeeds and they make a true 3/4 ton electric truck because I will definitely be interested in it. This thing just doesn’t do anything for me or any work I do with a truck, it has a long way to go until it gets to that point.

Does nearly everything a 2500 can do and more.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F6...lnk=Y&hvrand=#

Used to be made right down the road. Can throw down a hill and every tool is in place.

Aturnis, we own construction businesses and farms.


Don’t tell us what does and doesn’t work.


I’m excited about this truck, and believe electric is the future, but come on.