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raybec 4 04-03-2017 03:43 PM

There's a couple of videos at the link. He's trying to move his weight through the zone and not get stuck on that back foot.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/le...ggles-in-2016/

Marcellus 04-03-2017 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12808030)
And I'm sure if he doesn't it will matter just as much as last year.

Thats a nice luxury to have for sure.

O.city 04-03-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12807981)
I don't get how you can say this.

He's holding the bat lower which is closer to the point where he starts his swing, his feet are more in line, he's not wrapping the bat around his shoulder, and he's not awkwardly twisting his hand forward around the handle.

The only thing that looks the same is the bounce.

He needs more work on his timing and I'd like to see him ditch the stupid bounce.

He moved his hand position a few times in the year he was in STL. It didn't change much.

jd1020 04-04-2017 07:48 PM

Rough trip around the bases for Piscotty.

O.city 04-04-2017 07:50 PM

Storming here, my DirectTV is out. What am I missing.

Jewish Rabbi 04-04-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12809773)
Storming here, my DirectTV is out. What am I missing.

Piscotty HBP then scored on an infield hit and got nailed in the helmet on the throw home. Down on the field for a while and went into the tunnel when he got into the dugout, Dan and Al seem to think he is fine though.

Jewish Rabbi 04-04-2017 07:52 PM

It's Tim doing the game tonight, not Al, my bad.

tk13 04-04-2017 07:52 PM

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O.city 04-04-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 12809780)
Piscotty HBP then scored on an infield hit and got nailed in the helmet on the throw home. Down on the field for a while and went into the tunnel when he got into the dugout, Dan and Al seem to think he is fine though.

Thanks.

jd1020 04-04-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12809773)
Storming here, my DirectTV is out. What am I missing.

2-1 Cubs bottom 5.

Piscotty just got drilled in the head sliding into home after being HBP and hit by another throw sliding into 2nd.

Jewish Rabbi 04-04-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12809786)
2-1 Cubs bottom 5.

Piscotty just got drilled in the head sliding into home after being HBP and hit by another throw sliding into 2nd.

Ha, I wasn't paying attention when he got hit going into second. I just saw the throw bounced away.

tk13 04-04-2017 07:59 PM

They're planning to put Adams in the OF this year?

O.city 04-04-2017 08:14 PM

Good AB by Garcia there. I like him.

jd1020 04-04-2017 08:15 PM

Arrieta still hitting that 5th inning wall.

Don't think he'll be worth the money he's going to get from someone this off-season if he can't get back to getting you to the 7th.

DJ's left nut 04-04-2017 08:20 PM

Greg Garcia with a nails AB against Arrieta.

Still irritates me to no end that Matheny won't give him a chance to start over that ****ing polynesian reerun.

jd1020 04-04-2017 08:23 PM

That's why you are a platoon player, Wong.

DJ's left nut 04-04-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12809831)
That's why you are a platoon player, Wong.

You misspelled 'AAAA'.

Dude shouldn't be on a major league roster. He's a piece of shit.

Marcellus 04-04-2017 08:31 PM

**** Adams just got robbed of a HR.

jd1020 04-04-2017 08:32 PM

I hope Almora can bring the lumber.

I don't think that was going to be a HR, but that was nice. Looked like it was going to hit just under the top of the wall.

kcpasco 04-04-2017 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12809844)
**** Adams just got robbed of a HR.

That's was gonna be off the top of the wall.

O.city 04-04-2017 08:35 PM

I really wish we had a better 3rd baseman.

VAChief 04-04-2017 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12809830)
Greg Garcia with a nails AB against Arrieta.

Still irritates me to no end that Matheny won't give him a chance to start over that ****ing polynesian reerun.

I know they want to keep Carpenter at first, but our best lineup is Adams at first, Carpenter at third, and yes Garcia at second.

DJ's left nut 04-04-2017 08:37 PM

Well that certainly sucked.

The Cubs have one run because Grichuk couldn't execute a pretty simple play from the OF and a runner advanced to 3b.

On the other side, Heyward and Almora have taken at least 2 runs off the board with stellar plays.

The Cubs are just better than the Cardinals and in all the same ways that the Cards used to be better than them. Fundamentally these teams don't even appear to play the same sport.

I wonder if having a braindead window licker as a manager vs a probable hall of famer has anything to do with that. Naaaaaah.

kcpasco 04-04-2017 08:40 PM

I dunno how Garcia would work out as an everyday player but if it gets Peralta out of the lineup I'm for it.

Marcellus 04-04-2017 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12809860)
Well that certainly sucked.

The Cubs have one run because Grichuk couldn't execute a pretty simple play from the OF and a runner advanced to 3b.

On the other side, Heyward and Almora have taken at least 2 runs off the board with stellar plays.

The Cubs are just better than the Cardinals and in all the same ways that the Cards used to be better than them. Fundamentally these teams don't even appear to play the same sport.

I wonder if having a braindead window licker as a manager vs a probable hall of famer has anything to do with that. Naaaaaah.

Its a 1 run freaking game dude. Yes Grichuk ****ed up but I would still run him out there every day over Heyward regardless of defensive difference.

KChiefs1 04-04-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12809857)
I really wish we had a better 3rd baseman.


Moose or Cuthbert might be available.


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raybec 4 04-04-2017 09:13 PM

That was terrible Wong is awful

kcpasco 04-04-2017 09:13 PM

161-1

raybec 4 04-04-2017 09:14 PM

He was out

jd1020 04-04-2017 09:14 PM

Looked like one of those plays that went with whatever the call on the field was.

raybec 4 04-04-2017 09:15 PM

Geez Mike, you better go pray about why your managing style sucks balls. Maybe Chiefshrink can give you some pointers......****head

O.city 04-04-2017 09:16 PM

Exciting game. 1 bad inning for waino.

O.city 04-04-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12809893)
Moose or Cuthbert might be available.


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Wong for moose?lol

POND_OF_RED 04-04-2017 09:22 PM

What a way to end the game. Baez is incredible.
Doubt they end up playing tomorrow. Good opening series to welcome baseball season back.

Jewish Rabbi 04-04-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12809911)
Exciting game. 1 bad inning for waino.

That's not even a bad inning. A bloop hit to score a run, followed by a squeeze because his LF threw to the wrong base.

VAChief 04-05-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 12809963)
That's not even a bad inning. A bloop hit to score a run, followed by a squeeze because his LF threw to the wrong base.

It didn't look like Peralta and/or Diaz were in the right position. Peralta was in between a cutoff position and covering third. Diaz held his position instead of being at third. On a short single that is the most common shift with runners on 1st and 2nd. On a deep hit short goes out to cut. It looked like Grichuk came up to throw and where he would normally go there was no one in place and he basically sort armed it into the infield.

Jewish Rabbi 04-05-2017 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 12810225)
It didn't look like Peralta and/or Diaz were in the right position. Peralta was in between a cutoff position and covering third. Diaz held his position instead of being at third. On a short single that is the most common shift with runners on 1st and 2nd. On a deep hit short goes out to cut. It looked like Grichuk came up to throw and where he would normally go there was no one in place and he basically sort armed it into the infield.

Are we talking about the same play? Diaz went out to try to catch the bloop and Grichuk came up guns blazing to the plate. He didn't even look to third.

George Liquor 04-05-2017 10:11 AM

Game is cancelled today. Moved to the same time tomorrow.

DJ's left nut 04-05-2017 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 12810236)
Are we talking about the same play? Diaz went out to try to catch the bloop and Grichuk came up guns blazing to the plate. He didn't even look to third.

Hard to say. With the play in front of him as he charged the ball, he could've easily known that nobody was covering 3b by the time he got there (in fact, a really good defender would have done exactly that) and if he knew that, he might as well let it fly and see if he gets lucky at home; there's no saving the play at 3b if nobody's covering the bag and there's no additional damage done by going to the plate with it. It's possible that Grichuk made a stupid play - it's equally possible that he made a really smart one. But ultimately somebody screwed that play up badly.

The bottom line is that this team is still lacking in defensive fundamentals. Whether it was Peralta or Grichuk that botched it is pretty immaterial (well, less so with Peralta as I see no reason for him to be on the field anyway).

Over 162 games, you'll see stuff like that put at least a game/month between us and the Cubs. They're just a more sound ballclub than we are. 2 games in and they have a win over us precisely because of defensive execution that they had that we didn't. And they damn near stole the first one for the same reason due to Carpenter's vapor lock.

This isn't a fundamentally sound ballclub. Because it's led by an idiot.

raybec 4 04-05-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12810444)
Hard to say. With the play in front of him as he charged the ball, he could've easily known that nobody was covering 3b by the time he got there (in fact, a really good defender would have done exactly that) and if he knew that, he might as well let it fly and see if he gets lucky at home; there's no saving the play at 3b if nobody's covering the bag and there's no additional damage done by going to the plate with it. It's possible that Grichuk made a stupid play - it's equally possible that he made a really smart one. But ultimately somebody screwed that play up badly.

The bottom line is that this team is still lacking in defensive fundamentals. Whether it was Peralta or Grichuk that botched it is pretty immaterial (well, less so with Peralta as I see no reason for him to be on the field anyway).

Over 162 games, you'll see stuff like that put at least a game/month between us and the Cubs. They're just a more sound ballclub than we are. 2 games in and they have a win over us precisely because of defensive execution that they had that we didn't. And they damn near stole the first one for the same reason due to Carpenter's vapor lock.

This isn't a fundamentally sound ballclub. Because it's led by an idiot.

That's really disappointing too. The Cardinals have always had a history of playing good defense. Captain concussion is going to flush that if he doesn't get out of his own way.

raybec 4 04-05-2017 01:37 PM

Oh, and I really miss Oquendo manning the hot corner. I don't know why I miss seeing him out there but I do.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-05-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12810929)
Oh, and I really miss Oquendo manning the hot corner. I don't know why I miss seeing him out there but I do.

He was terrible at it.

George Liquor 04-06-2017 01:10 PM

Maybe I'm just imaging it, but it seems like we have a hard time putting pitchers away at the plate.

Possible big inning brewing for Chicago.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2017 01:14 PM

More of that superlative redbird defense.

John Lackey goes 1st to 3rd on a single to CF because Fowler trots his ass over to get it and Lackey catches him napping. So what's Fowler do? Throws the ball up the line to Gyorko to give Jay a chance to advance from 1st to 2nd on the throw.

It's a stupid, careless baseball team and has been since Matheny got here. It's only going to get worse as guys like Holliday leave and Molina fade away. When the 'old guard' of guys that were here under LaRussa start to be replaced by these ****ing knucklehead Matheny products, this team will be nigh on unwatchable.

George Liquor 04-06-2017 02:04 PM

So, uhh.. what's this Cecil guys deal?

raybec 4 04-06-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 12812577)
So, uhh.. what's this Cecil guys deal?

We apparently way overpaid for a middling bullpen arm, nothing to see.

Marcellus 04-06-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 12812577)
So, uhh.. what's this Cecil guys deal?

He sucks as far as I can tell.

George Liquor 04-06-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12812619)
He sucks as far as I can tell.

Well, one of the few ST games i paid attention to he was shelled, and he coughed up a 4 run lead in the 30 minutes from me leaving my home to clocking in at work.

Wtf

POND_OF_RED 04-06-2017 10:13 PM

This was insane. How?!?!
http://www.ksdk.com/mb/img/resize/co...preset=534-401

L.A. Chieffan 04-07-2017 11:54 AM

How much junk are Cardinals pitchers putting on the balls? Looks like the deception has gone down from the front office to the mound.

George Liquor 04-07-2017 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12814274)
How much junk are Cardinals pitchers putting on the balls? Looks like the deception has gone down from the front office to the mound.

That's probably why you can't beat us in the playoffs

L.A. Chieffan 04-07-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 12814409)
That's probably why you can't beat us in the playoffs

How did you guys do in the postseason last year? Oh wait, that's right. You're the Cubs' bitch now. Have fun trying to win that division for the next decade. It might be harder if you keep getting penalized draft picks.

DJ's left nut 04-07-2017 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12814504)
How did you guys do in the postseason last year? Oh wait, that's right. You're the Cubs' bitch now. Have fun trying to win that division for the next decade. It might be harder if you keep getting penalized draft picks.

I'd be salty as well if I had a pitcher turn in arguably the greatest single-season of the modern era only to watch him get his ass kicked by Matt Adams and Michael Wacha in October.

POND_OF_RED 04-07-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12814504)
How did you guys do in the postseason last year? Oh wait, that's right. You're the Cubs' bitch now. Have fun trying to win that division for the next decade. It might be harder if you keep getting penalized draft picks.

Last postseason the Dodgers were actually the Cubs bitch. Have fun spending all that money for nothing. It's a shame we'll likely never get to see Kershaw pitch a World Series game.

Swanman 04-07-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 12814274)
How much junk are Cardinals pitchers putting on the balls? Looks like the deception has gone down from the front office to the mound.

Watch out folks, we got a hot take over here. Or a ****ing troll, take your pick.

VAChief 04-07-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12814633)
I'd be salty as well if I had a pitcher turn in arguably the greatest single-season of the modern era only to watch him get his ass kicked by Matt Adams and Michael Wacha in October.

Don't forget "Sugar" Shane Robinson's two hits and RBI's in that deciding game six 9-0 laugher.

Jewish Rabbi 04-07-2017 06:43 PM

Leake looks like such a one who sucks the penis with his long ass hair.

George Liquor 04-07-2017 07:21 PM

It's a Cardinals getting shut down by a scrub lefty again episode

I guess he is their #2 prospect?

George Liquor 04-07-2017 07:35 PM

Leake finally gives up a run in the 6th, to Joey Votto after Billy Hamilton gets on and steals 2nd.

I've seen this before

Marcellus 04-07-2017 07:57 PM

Peralta needs DFA'd. Dude looks looks like he has never hit a baseball in his life

DJ's left nut 04-07-2017 08:23 PM

Boys looked ready to play tonight...

And no, Peralta has no business on a major league roster. It's stunning to me that Mozeliak and Matheny thought there was any possibility that would not be the case. He simply can't get the bat through the zone anymore.

George Liquor 04-07-2017 08:26 PM

5 runs given up by our starters thru 4 games and we are 1-3 and the team has hit all of 1 home run.

Prettt pathetic

kcpasco 04-07-2017 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 12815074)
5 runs given up by our starters thru 4 games and we are 1-3 and the team has hit all of 1 home run.

Prettt pathetic

Just like last year. They don't hit homeruns they lose.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-07-2017 10:16 PM

Time to bottom out

George Liquor 04-08-2017 12:23 PM

If they don't tee off on Arroyo we have major problems

Jewish Rabbi 04-08-2017 12:28 PM

I mean Yadi got lucky but 2 in the first is a good start.

kcpasco 04-08-2017 12:36 PM

Please take Adams out of LF.

George Liquor 04-08-2017 02:39 PM

Bullpen giving up way too many home runs

raybec 4 04-09-2017 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 12815650)
Bullpen giving up way too many home runs

Yep, they screwed Martinez last week. Let's hope they can get their big money man Cecil to pull his head out of his ass.

George Liquor 04-09-2017 01:25 PM

Another pathetic effort today.

Turning this shit off to watch the Masters.

Mi_chief_fan 04-09-2017 03:13 PM

78-84. Unless they can somehow swindle a middle of the order hitter away from someone.

ChiefsCountry 04-09-2017 08:35 PM

Had free tickets Saturday on the Rooftop seats. Wow they were awesome and the food and drink selection for all you could eat and drink was outstanding.

raybec 4 04-10-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 12816783)
78-84. Unless they can somehow swindle a middle of the order hitter away from someone.

I'm sticking with my 80 game prediction. They can't be this bad for an entire season...can they?

DJ's left nut 04-10-2017 10:22 AM

I really wish they'd have just traded Carpenter in the off-season.

The guy can't play defense anywhere and trying to hammer him in at 1b is killing us because it leaves absolute shit for us at 3b. Worse still, he's still a friggen headcase when you put him in the 3 hole. With the new focus on 'hybrid leadoff hitters', why not ship him off to an AL team that can hide his glove and will bat him leadoff? There his RBI potential isn't wasted because he's not batting behind the pitcher. He's an absolutely perfect fit for the American League. The Astros are loaded with young talent - surely they could've put together a deal around Tucker (probably not Bregman but you have to at least ask). But nah, that's too scary for John Mozeliak.

So they're going to have to put his ass back at leadoff to make him a semi-viable player again and in the process they'll need to move Fowler to 2 (where he's not as impactful) and ask Diaz to do too much at 3.

Carpenter's doing more harm than good to this team and that will be the case even if they put him back at leadoff and get him hitting again. Last off-season was a perfect time to trade him, coming off a career year. The acquiring team would still have him for 3 seasons and maybe Mozeliak could've shown some knowledge of when to sell on a player.

This is just such a poorly conceived ballclub. I still can't understand why the hell they didn't blow it apart last year - there's no ceiling here at all.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-10-2017 10:24 AM

They need 70 wins and an enema in the worst way

raybec 4 04-10-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12817498)
I really wish they'd have just traded Carpenter in the off-season.

The guy can't play defense anywhere and trying to hammer him in at 1b is killing us because it leaves absolute shit for us at 3b. Worse still, he's still a friggen headcase when you put him in the 3 hole.

So they're going to have to put his ass back at leadoff to make him a semi-viable player again and in the process they'll need to move Fowler to 2 (where he's not as impactful) and ask Diaz to do too much at 3.

Carpenter's doing more harm than good to this team and that will be the case even if they put him back at leadoff and get him hitting again. Last off-season was a perfect time to trade him, coming off a career year. The acquiring team would still have him for 3 seasons and maybe Mozeliak could've shown some knowledge of when to sell on a player.

This is just such a poorly conceived ballclub. I still can't understand why the hell they didn't blow it apart last year - there's no ceiling here at all.

Mo obviously doesn't understand the fan base. If he would have told everyone last year "Look, the Cubs are in a different stratosphere than we are so we're going to have to reset our club and try to catch them. It will be a couple of seasons but we'll get there." Cards fans would have understood that and we would've kept going to games. Instead of just manning up and doing it he's going to flail around like a fish out of water and cause a 5-7 year .500 streak because he refuses to get rid of bible boy and his band of apostles.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12817503)
They need 70 wins and an enema in the worst way

The sad thing is that the former has to precede the latter.

When in fact, the latter could head off the former. This isn't a team with no talent, but it's being driven into the gutter by an incompetent field manager and a GM that's having to make decisions based on dealing with that incompetence.

Now I'm not sure how Mozeliak would do removed from the shackles of Matheny - he may still be mediocre. But ultimately he's the guy that hired/retained/extended him so I really don't give a shit. Matheny is a problem of Mozeliak's creation so he has to own him.

This whole thing could've been avoided had the Cardinals done what they should have done in 2012 and hired Francona or what they should have done in 2015 and shit-canned Matheny to hire Maddon.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12817505)
Mo obviously doesn't understand the fan base. If he would have told everyone last year "Look, the Cubs are in a different stratosphere than we are so we're going to have to reset our club and try to catch them. It will be a couple of seasons but we'll get there." Cards fans would have understood that and we would've kept going to games. Instead of just manning up and doing it he's going to flail around like a fish out of water and cause a 5-7 year .500 streak because he refuses to get rid of bible boy and his band of apostles.

Nah - he understands them fine. There's no way he doesn't know that.

He uses them as an excuse the same way I'll use my wife as one when I just don't feel like going out for drinks after work. "Ah, I'm sorry guys but the old ball and chain won't let me go out..." - {goes home and works in the shop while drinking beer I already paid for; never asks wife at all - knows she wouldn't have cared}

Mozeliak is unwilling to take risks that might get him fired. So what's he do? Floats this bullshit line to a willing/complicit media about how the fans wouldn't accept a rebuild. He hides behind the fans when the reality is that he doesn't have the chops/stones to commit to a rebuild that might not work. So he can keep treading water for 10 years in an era when teams are trying desperately to avoid being stuck in the middle. So in that environment, where 5 teams every year are openly tanking, it's not hard to win 80 games and say "better things are coming next year".

And that's exactly what he'll do - because having a job is better than not having one and he's unwilling to risk his.

**** him. And Matheny.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-10-2017 10:33 AM

They would just replace him wiith Mabry and call it a day. Good ole boys! No battin gloves!

DJ's left nut 04-10-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12817515)
They would just replace him wiith Mabry and call it a day. Good ole boys! No battin gloves!

DeWitt is the only thing that can save the organization and I don't think he has the energy for it anymore.

He's arguably the best owner in the history of the franchise but he's seen the top of the mountain. "And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer..."

What the **** else does DeWitt have to accomplish at this juncture? He got his new stadium, he got ballpark village. He won 2 championships (with 2 different GMs) and even got another pennant with a different manager so it won't all fall at Tony's feet.

DeWitt has done literally everything there is to do. The team is paid for and generating revenue beyond anything he could've ever imagined. He's going to coast and why shouldn't he? We all would.

But that's going to allow Mozeliak to keep this job until he puts up back to back clunkers. He could win 80-85 games/season for another 20 years and so long as Bill DeWitt is still alive, he'll let him do it. Ownership is the only thing that can snap this organization out of its malaise but it won't.

And just wait - we'll have the second best offer for Luis Robert as well. Because that's where we are as an organization - just happy to be here; hoping to not embarrass ourselves and enjoy those 3 million fans/season with nominal overhead.


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