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I mean...that's certainly nonsense. So you do you, boo. |
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LDT was struggling last year. Hard to think there is much of any disparity with Osemele. Remmers=Erving. He might actually be better but for the sake of argument they’re equal. Rankin was good when he played and 2nd year Allegretti>rookie Allegretti. Then you have Daryl Williams as a developmental player with potential. Not seeing where we went backwards here |
We didn't pay starting G money for Wisniewski, which was absolutely the right move. We'll likely see a downgrade at LG from where we were at in the playoffs.
But HUGE hit to our OL depth? Incoming catastrophe? A line made up of nothing but Cameron Ervings and Mike McGlynns? No. Not at all. For the most part, we're largely unchanged, and if we hit on any of these guards, we're just as good if not better than where we were last year. We'll be fine. |
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I think Wylie was really exposed by having to play alongside Erving last year. He's a fine complementary player and by playing next to Schwartz next season, I think we'll see a similar performance to what we got out of him in '18 and LDT in '19. If Osemele and Fisher stay healthy (admittedly a major if for both guys after their injuries last season, but both guys had relatively strong health histories leading up to a major injury in '19), the line will absolutely be improved over what it was in '19. |
Is Niang the only rookie to opt out?
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As long as Schwartz and Fisher stay healthy, the Chiefs will be fine.
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So the final opt out number is...69...
https://media3.giphy.com/media/O2K7w...&rid=giphy.gif That seems purposeful.. |
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Sometimes, shit just happens. |
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Only OT would have been a worse opt-out than OG. Niang has a lot of guts to opt-out right after he got drafted. Just tired of having a shitty OL interior. :( |
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Cam Erving caused most of the injuries. |
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I know this is a big surprise to you but not every position can be all-pro’s. |
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Look at our running stats, and see how poor our G/C are. Was hoping Niang was going to be an upgrade by mid season. |
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Maybe Darius Harris? I mean he was basically redshirted so he doesn’t exactly have any more experience than a rookie. Hard to think they won’t start Gay |
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Hitchens and Wilson both have the size/strength needed to play Mike/Sam - the Will can be more of a fast-twitch guy, provided that the DL holds the edge and the remaining backers do their jobs. You also have fairly willing DBs in run support. If a fast Will can just force the RB into a decision point, everyone else can swarm. I don't think bulk at Will is going to be the issue, honestly. It wouldn't hurt to have, but if Gay isn't up to speed mentally out of the box, I think we can survive. The real issue won't be size as much as savvy, IMO. DoD seems to be an idiot and Niemann doesn't diagnose as quickly as I'd like though recovers better than DoD because he's not shot out of a cannon everywhere. |
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I’m calling it now, Gay’s going to start. Just watch.
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Little more hesitant to say that over the first couple of weeks. But they may just toss his ass in the deep end, tell Pat to score a lot if he has to and go from there... |
I don't the Chiefs have much choice but to start Gay sooner rather than later. We need more speed and athletic ability in our LB corp.
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I'd rather have a season of questionable "scrub football" than no season at all. Whoever wins this one, there will always be an asterisk on it so I am glad the Chiefs got theirs last year.
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Lucas Niang opts out...
Deion speaks out.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...o-opt-out/amp/ “All Players OPTING out in all sports PLEASE BELIEVE the game will go on without u,” Sanders said on Twitter. “This is a business & don’t u EVER forget that. There’s NO ONE that’s bigger than the game itself. Only the ref, umps & officials are that important that u can’t play without them. NOT YOU! #Truth.” |
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On the flip side, if Damien Williams plays and his mom dies from complications of COVID, neither him nor his mother just “move on”. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Prominent industry source: "I think by the end of the week the fall sports will be postponed in all conferences."</p>— Pat Forde (@ByPatForde) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292123705733259265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the entire post-high school educational model completely crumble to the ground in the next 3 to 5 years, especially since universities across the country are still charging full rate (and in some cases, like USC, Ivy League, etc., in excess of $60K per year) for an Online Education. |
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I've tried watching his Sunday night wrap up show but his comments are so incredibly off-base that it's like watching the ramblings of a man with dementia. |
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Damien Williams playing football this year and keeping his mom safe were not mutually exclusive scenarios. |
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So he’s definitely got the playbook and has already gone through team activities before he opted out. He’ll have a year to learn the basics while healing his hip.
This isn’t any different than Travis Kelce getting injured and missing his entire rookie season. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Before making his decision, Lucas Niang participated in all of the Chiefs’ training camp activities. He opted out of the season for family concerns amid the coronavirus pandemic.<br><br>As with Laurent Duvernay-Tardif & Damien Williams, the Chiefs fully support Lucas’ decision.</p>— Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1291378939424837633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
I respect the decision of Lucas, but selfishly wish he had played to get a year under his belt before taking over a starting position next season. The Chiefs can open op $11.5 million in cap space by cutting Fisher in '21. This set us back a year and puts us in a pickle with future cap space.
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Niang will be completely cut off from the organization as part of the opt out exile. You are apparently still too stupid to grasp that difference. |
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Niang was in team meetings for weeks in the off-season virtual program before he opted out. I ask again: do you think Brett Veach and Andy Reid are too stupid to give instructions/advice on the playbook as well as from their medical staff on his time off? Do you really think they won’t care about their investment? As for Kelce, he may have been in team meetings all season as a rookie but he was never practicing with the team on the field. He was doing rehab most of the time. But hey continue to post as if Niang is in career jeopardy even though it’s really not a big deal. |
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The boy hasn't taken a single NFL snap yet, and we've already decided he's going to be the downfall of the team . . . CP.
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Chiefs are loaded with him or without
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Jack Del Rio speaks the truth about these opt-out players...
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I really don't get the rush to cut Fisher. He is an above average LT and only counting for about $14 million this year and next, I'd take that all day over paying a guy $22-25. Save Niang for when his contract is up and wants a raise.
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Fisher is among the top 5 pure pass pro LTs in the game and he's making 2/3 of what the 'elite' guys are making. And people want to cut him. He's left on an island damn near every snap and does his job credibly. Had we drafted this guy at 2.1 instead of 1.1, people would love him. There's been so much anti-Fisher sentiment due to his draft position that folks refuse to concede how well he's performed despite a massive degree of difficulty in Reid's offense. And ultimately, if we're wrong about that, Reid will know it better than anyone on here and he'll get cut. But I suspect Reid/Veach will do what they have to do to keep Fisher around because they know how useful he is and how damaging it would be to cut him loose. At worst, he'll play out the final year of his deal (because again, he's below market) and they'll take the comp pick if they can't get an extension done. Fisher's a good LT in a league where there are maybe a dozen of those. His cap figure is almost certainly below his market value. And people want to cut him then cite OTHER people wanting to cut him as proof they're right. Aight. Makes sense. |
I don't hate Fisher, however we will have to save money somewhere and getting 5 years out of a dude making a couple mill a year isn't a horrible idea if you feel you can replace him with a draft pick.
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Apparently Nebraska and Iowa are trying to do the Lord's work.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan Patrick reports Big Ten had internal vote & by 12-2 margin, league members opted on not having a fall football season. Nebraska & Iowa were only schools that voted to play this fall, <a href="https://twitter.com/dpshow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dpshow</a> said. Patrick said Big Ten & Pac-12 would cancel fall seasons Tuesday</p>— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1292819735827156997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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The same people calling for Fisher to be cut are lauding Veach's work in retaining a luxury player in Sammy Watkins despite using a 2nd rounder on Hardman last year and getting a productive season out of him. Want to save $12 million in a way that doesn't expose Mahomes to add'l abuse? Cut Hitchens now, absorb the hit, clean the books for next season and there - you've cleared the same amount as cutting Fisher without getting rid of a dude who didn't lose a game while starting at the most important position on the OL for us last season. And again - I like Niang a lot. I was on board with taking him in the 2nd before the draft started. I think he can be a very good player and maybe someday win that job outright. But it wasn't going to happen even by 2021, not with 2020 likely being something of a redshirt season even before the COVID thing happened. Natural attrition will take care of this - there's no reason at all to piss away the final (and cost effective) year of Fisher's contract when there are other, LESS cost effective line items on our salary cap. |
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I think this defense can function w/ a solid, dependable #1 and a fringy #2. It's not ideal, but it's workable. But if you can't get a guy in here next year to see what you have, you really have little choice but to retain Ward at nearly any cost. Though another developmental T couldn't hurt w/ Schwartz also getting a little older and having interests outside of football. |
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I wonder if Niang felt any regret watching it on the tube.
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Doesn't mean we need to feel differently about the guy. My guess is he feels on some level like he let the team down and he's concerned with how he'll be received. But, it is what it is. I look forward to his contribution next year and hold no resentment toward him. |
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Another angle is that fisher might be cheaper to extend to a new deal. Two straight years of injury and no longer negotiating a peak deal. Plus you'd have to imagine owners will be very tight fisted this offseason given potential cap changes.
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In RE: to Niang: My alternate theory was he opted out because he wasn't totally healthy, probably wasn't going to play, so he may have been "encouraged" to opt out so that the Chiefs get the benefit of the extra year.
Niang gets to earn his small salary while getting healthy and not having to deal with the rigors of the season, and will still have his full rookie deal (i.e. the total time to actually play v. losing one year for health), Chiefs get their player for the full deal, healthy and ready, and no lost time due to the injury.... Just a theory.... |
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