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Urc Burry 03-10-2024 12:07 PM

I think we’ll find out tonight.. Veach always has one big free agent target we don’t see coming. And I don’t think he wants to enter tampering period with no wiggle room.

I THINK he can draw that one. But to temper my expectations I’m going to be cool with a 2nd and a 4th.

If it’s just a late second from the lions or something similar I’ll be a bit disappointed, but knowing we got Jones locked up for sure it will be easier to deal with

Chris Meck 03-10-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17434845)
Detroit doesn’t have a rookie QB window, but the QB situation in the NFC is not good. It won’t be this way forever. Eventually there will be elite QBs in NFC.

I really think Detroit needs to go for it.

No, but all of their weapons are on rookie deals. They've got a real tight window before they have to start making tough decisions.

BossChief 03-10-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 17434969)
I am good for 2025 1st. Gamble that the team sucks and turns into a top ten pick.

In a vacuum, we all would.

But with a 3 peat on the line, the majority of the compensation would be this year.

We’re going to get more than we think for him if that Knee checks out medically.

When you have playoff teams with positional need and a desire to win now…along with non competing teams with lots of resources to try to get out of the slums…and a young 100% “shut down the opponents top WR every week” type guy…

That’s not a situation you only get a mid second rounder for.

I won’t be shocked if we get a late first AND a mid rounder next year for him.

The only thing keeping Sneed from being a complete unicorn is knee/concussion concerns that didn’t prevent him from shitting on every elite WR he faced.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-10-2024 12:11 PM

Watch Veach extend Sneed now

DJ's left nut 03-10-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17434996)
Watch Veach extend Sneed now

Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

smithandrew051 03-10-2024 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17435005)
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

Agree with all this plus Veach/Spags have earned our unwavering trust with whatever they do in the secondary.

Drafting DBs so damn well makes moving Sneed possible.

BossChief 03-10-2024 12:30 PM

I don’t see a path to where we extend Sneed. I wish I did because last year was probably the best year any CB has had in a Chiefs uniform in my lifetime. We are just too good at developing DBs to not extract value to reallocate it at other positions of need when we have 2-3 guys that can step in and be solid at CB, but needs at other positions.

I can say 1 thing…

If you give Sneed a 5 year deal, you drop his cap hit this year and you can spend the whole draft on offense.

It would even up the flexibility to make some trade ups for a WR and a LT if they fall to within striking distance.

Nightfyre 03-10-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17435005)
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if he could. But there's a real question if he should.

We need to keep bringing in young talent, cost controlled talent. And if we could net another top 50 pick by moving him...boy that's hard to walk away from.

If you can't bring Jones back then he was necessary throughput. Now that we have...well, moving him seems like the smarter decision. It's actually been part of my calculus on the 'should we re-sign Jones' question. You don't re-sign Jones and extend Sneed instead, you get no additional draft capital.

You overpay a bit (IMO) to retain Jones but you move Sneed who likely could've been had at/near the same cost as Jaylon Jones...well, you at least get some draft capital to help offset the massive gap cap space.

Agreed. This draft is deep right at the sweet spot where we could get an asset for LJ. I LOVE LJ. But I ain't paying both him and Jones top of market deals, particularly when I can exchange one for cost-controlled talent of the magnitude available in the top 50 of this draft.

Dunerdr 03-10-2024 12:53 PM

Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

RedinTexas 03-10-2024 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17435017)
I don’t see a path to where we extend Sneed. I wish I did because last year was probably the best year any CB has had in a Chiefs uniform in my lifetime. We are just too good at developing DBs to not extract value to reallocate it at other positions of need when we have 2-3 guys that can step in and be solid at CB, but needs at other positions.

Yes. Furthermore, to take full advantage of the the developing DBs, we have to move them up in the depth chart. Then, if/when they demonstrate superior abilities themselves, we get draft compensation when we lose them. It's a virtuous cycle from which we continue to reap benefits, but only if we keep that wheel turning.

Dunerdr 03-10-2024 01:04 PM

Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

In58men 03-10-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17435047)
Gonna be a low 2 and a 4.

We heard you the first time

Smed1065 03-10-2024 01:30 PM

I am crazy but Snead stays for 1 year anyway.

saphojunkie 03-10-2024 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17434788)
Teams know we have to trade him now hoping Bunt already had something in place so it doesn’t affect the value.

i thought the same thing this morning

and then I thought this:

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17434807)
Doesn't matter for a player with a broad market.

Yes, Veach has to trade Sneed. He doesn't have to trade Sneed to YOU.


Needing to trade him means he's available and that's it. It doesn't mean you won't have to pay market rates for him in a competitive bidding situation. And that's what you're looking at with Sneed.

If there are truly 4-6 teams expressing strong interest in him, a top 50 pick and some change seems extremely likely.


displacedinMN 03-10-2024 01:48 PM

are we going to lose him????


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