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kccrow 05-07-2016 07:59 PM

Before I do my trades, are we going to argue over 0.3 points?

Basically, my pick discounted at 65% yields 344.5 and the 3 picks in return net 344.8.

65% is already an incredibly stupid number, just wondering if we have to come in exact or under...


Edit, nevermind (kinda), I added wrong and it comes to 343.8. In any event, would still like to know if that small amount matters.

kccrow 05-07-2016 09:49 PM

Alrighty... Did more thinking and here's what I've decided on...

To start out with, I'm going to accept both of the Chiefs trades.

I'm then going to initiate a trade up with Cleveland to move from 105 to 99 and involves the following picks:

Chiefs Receive
4-1 (99th pick) = 104
4-31 (129th pick) = 43
7-29 (250th pick) = 2
Total = 149

Browns Receive
4-7 (105th pick) = 84*85% = 71.4
4-8 (106th pick) = 82*85% = 69.7
6-28 (203rd pick) = 10.2*85% = 8.7
Total = 149.8


Draft
2-6 (37th pick) - Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (Bengals, 55)
I felt like the Chiefs needed a guy that could come in and be a #2 receiver right away rather than taking a 4th defensive lineman. Boyd also has return ability.
3-11 (74th pick) - KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame (Chiefs, 74)
I love the Chiefs' original pick here, Russell could come in and start right away either outside or in the slot.
4-1 (99th pick) - Joshua Perry, ILB, Ohio State (Chargers, 102)
I think Perry was damn underrated in the draft and was infuriated when KC didn't move up to snag him. This guy can do everything at a starter's level.
4-28 (126th pick) - Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (Broncos, 144)
Another guy that slid too far in the real draft, he's got potential to be stud. KC needs competition for a starting guard spot this year and McGovern has the strength to do it.
4-31 (129th pick) - Matt Judon, DE/OLB, Grand Valley State (Ravens, 146)
I'm not sure if Dee Ford is actually going to make it yet or not and the Chiefs also have Justin Houston set to miss significant time. The backups don't inspire confidence. I considered Spence for a while at 37. Judon has Houston-like measurables and great production at his level.
5-25 (162nd pick) - Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State (Browns, 172)
Higgins is the most underrated receiver in the draft and has starter potential. I double-down on potential at receiver.
5-28 (165th pick) - Fahn Cooper, OT/OG, Ole Miss (49ers, 174)
I felt like KC should have double-dipped on the O-line. They need guys to push for starting guard spots and a backup swing tackle. Cooper fits the bill.
6-3 (178th pick) - D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech (Chiefs, 178)
Another pick of KC's that I loved is White. Physical for his size, sticky in man, and decent ball skills.
7-29 (250th pick) - Kalan Reed, CB, Southern Miss (Titans, 253)
Can't believe Reed dropped to the end of the draft. I had Reed pegged as a 2nd to 3rd round talent. I'll take him here and, like the Chiefs, go for the hat trick on DBs.

The Franchise 05-08-2016 12:54 AM

Tyler Boyd doesn't play for ND.

chiefscafan 05-08-2016 07:24 AM

Rain man my teams QB situation is still screwed but I'm gonna have one hell of a D.


Those are the Chiefs picks I like. I like Vernon Adams and feel he is worth a stash on my roster. Myles Jack will be amazing in this D.

Not a fan of billings or Westerman and I'm fine with Poe and Howard for now.


Plus on the Westerman subject I have the luxury of hitting on three OGs in last two drafts Gabe Jackson, Ali Marpet, and L'ael Collins.

chiefscafan 05-08-2016 07:55 AM

So was Donald Stephenson cut or do we just lose him

wazu 05-08-2016 12:07 PM

Going to continue rejecting the decisions that the Chiefs make in favor of my own bad decisions, as this tends to ensure that the players the Chiefs draft will become stars and make me regret my decision.

I have McCray on my roster, I'll trade him for the 5th pick. I will reject both of the Chiefs trade-downs. I will then make the following trade UP:

Sending my 28th pick (valued at 660) to Pittsburgh for their 25th pick (valued at 828 after 15% penalty) I owe 168 points to Pittsburgh after swapping these two picks.
Sending my 59th pick (valued at 201 after 35% penalty) to Pittsburgh for the 123rd pick (valued at 49 points) I still owe the Pittsburgh 16 points
Sending my 162nd pick (valued at 17 after 35% penalty) to Pittsburgh

1-25 (25th pick) QB Paxton Lynch (Broncos)

I was just sick to see the Broncos get this guy right in front of us. I can't let it go, and in this forum I don't have to. I strongly considered making the safer move and following the Chiefs here since it was going to cost me so much to move up. But ultimately I did what I always do.

4-25 (123rd pick) RB Kenneth Dixon (Ravens)

I somehow missed out on the West/Ware train, so I shopped for a potential successor to Jamaal Charles in the later rounds of the draft. This guy sounded like he had the most potential to blow up.

6-28 (203rd pick) WR Mike Thomas (Rams)

I considered going with Dadi Stephens here, but again, I want the guy to be successful.

7-28 (249th pick) CB Kalan Reed (Titans)

Heard a lot of buzz about this year's Mr. Irrelevant, so taking a flyer.

wazu 05-08-2016 12:09 PM

Now that mine is done, I am honestly just now reviewing everybody else's draft. Apparently I'm not the only one who leans heavily on PFF.

kccrow 05-08-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12220901)
Tyler Boyd doesn't play for ND.

Doh! I shouldn't do these things when drinking.

The Franchise 05-08-2016 04:08 PM

I'll probably have to trade up for a QB next year.....depending on where we are picking at.

I wish you could trade players. I know it would be impossible to manage though.

kccrow 05-08-2016 04:43 PM

The post-draft trade down penalty is also a bit steep, but I understand the reasoning. Losing 10 extra picks to trade down from 28 is a bit heavy though. I'd have to think 5% on a trade up and 15% on a trade down would have been significantly more "realistic." This is very much the reason I avoided a trade down, other than what the Chiefs actually did, like the plague. It's hard to predict how the draft will fall to avoid the penalty.

kccrow 05-08-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12221601)
I'll probably have to trade up for a QB next year.....depending on where we are picking at.

I wish you could trade players. I know it would be impossible to manage though.

Same. I just didn't like Hogan enough to keep him as a draft pick. Thought about taking Dak Prescott though, as he reminds me alot of Donovan McNabb.

wazu 05-08-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12221647)
The post-draft trade down penalty is also a bit steep, but I understand the reasoning. Losing 10 extra picks to trade down from 28 is a bit heavy though. I'd have to think 5% on a trade up and 15% on a trade down would have been significantly more "realistic." This is very much the reason I avoided a trade down, other than what the Chiefs actually did, like the plague. It's hard to predict how the draft will fall to avoid the penalty.

It's a balancing act it's a tremendous advantage to say what you would've done after its all over.

wazu 05-08-2016 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12221601)
I'll probably have to trade up for a QB next year.....depending on where we are picking at.

I wish you could trade players. I know it would be impossible to manage though.

I'm not sure there's any reason we couldn't trade picks/players between owners. The people that play here all act in good faith, and Rain Man has final word.

Rain Man 05-08-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12220984)
So was Donald Stephenson cut or do we just lose him

I think he left as a free agent, so you just lose him. (Insert losing game show horn here.)

The good news is that you'll pick up Mitchell Schwartz since he came as a free agent.

Rain Man 05-08-2016 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12220746)
Before I do my trades, are we going to argue over 0.3 points?

Basically, my pick discounted at 65% yields 344.5 and the 3 picks in return net 344.8.

65% is already an incredibly stupid number, just wondering if we have to come in exact or under...


Edit, nevermind (kinda), I added wrong and it comes to 343.8. In any event, would still like to know if that small amount matters.

Yep, you have to give up an equal or greater number of points. No exceptions. (I tried to do a trade down and believe it or not, I was 0.1 points off on a pretty big trade. I was annoyed because I couldn't get that 0.1 without giving up a lot more.)


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