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staylor26 05-18-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17524769)
To be clear it was the sisters of the order that founded the school. Not the administration.

So with that distinction and the fact that he received a standing ovation, do you now understand the point that he was preaching to the choir?

Delano 05-18-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17524750)
True but pushing the antisemitism angle makes her either a) too lazy to find out what he actually said and the context of it or b) too stupid to understand it. Neither is excusable.

The context of what he said was that a recent antisemitism bill would enable law enforcement to arrest people for claiming Jews killed the Christ character. This is blatant misinformation. Why would Butker mislead impressionable students? Was he confused or misled?

Delano 05-18-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17524770)
You belief structure is subjective to the whims of society. Aka you lack moral conviction in your own beliefs. They basically come and go as society dictates.

So yeah,

I’m not tolerant of your weak convictions and subjective belief system. In fact I loath them. It’s the hallmarks of a weak man or woman.

Ok pal you sure pinned me down with the facts there.

Delano 05-18-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17524772)
So with that distinction and the fact that he received a standing ovation, do you now understand the point that he was preaching to the choir?

Standing ovation doesn’t mean there was unanimous agreement. I’m sure you’ve read or listened to reactions from women in the audience who weren’t thrilled with the message.

Spott 05-18-2024 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17524756)
Just reading through the most recent idk call it doz n posts, some are veering n that direction, imo

There’s two separate threads in DC for people to whine and complain about his religious/political beliefs, but a couple of these pansies just want to keep crying about it over here.

This thread is to talk about the best kicker in the NFL, the best kicker in Chiefs history, and the all time Super Bowl record holder for most FG’s and longest FG. If people can’t appreciate Butker, then they go fist the kicker who shall remain nameless’s old dirty bunghole.

kysirsoze 05-18-2024 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17524772)
So with that distinction and the fact that he received a standing ovation, do you now understand the point that he was preaching to the choir?

All I'm saying his expressed views were not typical catholic views and not even the views of the nuns at the institution where he was speaking.

AustinChief 05-18-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17524773)
The context of what he said was that a recent antisemitism bill would enable law enforcement to arrest people for claiming Jews killed the Christ character. This is blatant misinformation. Why would Butker mislead impressionable students? Was he confused or misled?

Yes. Butker misunderstood the bill just like a huge number of others did. I won't give him a free pass for it but that's quite a bit different than accusing someone of antisemitism.

Make no mistake though, I'll call him out for being lazy for not doing his own research on that before putting it in his speech.

(Btw, he and others fail to realize the bill is the exact same wording as an executive order from years ago that is already being enforced. So basically, it's a giant nothing burger)

BleedingRed 05-18-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 17524776)
There’s two separate threads in DC for people to whine and complain about his religious/political beliefs, but a couple of these pansies just want to keep crying about it over here.

This thread is to talk about the best kicker in the NFL, the best kicker in Chiefs history, and the all time Super Bowl record holder for most FG’s and longest FG. If people can’t appreciate Butker, then they go fist the kicker who shall remain nameless’s old dirty bunghole.

Well one thing is for sure, god is on his side 😂

Delano 05-18-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 17524781)
Yes. Butker misunderstood the law just like a huge number of others did. I won't give him a free pass for it but that's quite a bit different than accusing someone of antisemitism.

Make no mistake though, I'll call him out for being lazy for not doing his own research on that before putting it in his speech.

I can see the perspective of both people here. Butker was making the case that ultra orthodox Catholicism is under attack and using all the evidence he could find - true or not. Ms. Schwartz felt Jews were being persecuted and interpreted Butker’s comments as false information against a bill that would have worked to protect Jews.

Both probably wrong and misled. I don’t think we should call either stupid because misinformation affects everyone.

BleedingRed 05-18-2024 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17524784)
I can see the perspective of both people here. Butker was making the case that ultra orthodox Catholicism is under attack and using all the evidence he could find - true or not. Ms. Schwartz felt Jews were being persecuted and interpreted Butker’s comments as false information against a bill that would have worked to protect Jews.

Both probably wrong and misled. I don’t think we should call either stupid because misinformation affects everyone.

Being outraged about something you don’t understand is arguably worse than misunderstanding the implications of a law

jdubya 05-18-2024 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17524779)
All I'm saying his expressed views were not typical catholic views and not even the views of the nuns at the institution where he was speaking.

You mean those unmarried women with no kids? Weird LMAO

BleedingRed 05-18-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 17524790)
You mean those unmarried women with no kids? Weird LMAO

Unmarried women are a real issue in this country. 90% of them don’t even understand conditional hypotheticals

kysirsoze 05-18-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 17524790)
You mean those unmarried women with no kids? Weird LMAO

Surely you see how you're supporting my point.

BleedingRed 05-18-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17524794)
Surely you see how you're supporting my point.

You do understand Women have no authority in the Catholic Church right?

RealSNR 05-18-2024 03:30 PM

So shall we send the thread dedicated to celebrating Butker's football accomplishments to DC?


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