Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12978868)

I agree. Between the two I choose Dorsey 10 times out of 10.

Reid is a known quantity. He's not going to change. He's not bad enough to get fired, not good enough to get you to the promised land.

Dorsey could have hired an up-and-comer as his next head coach - we could have went for it all. Instead, we have Hunt and Reid and a glorified director of scouting working under them, hoping that we can get a QB good enough to cover for Reid.

But Reid backers will just point to his regular season record. Yep. He beats a lot of bad and mediocre teams, that are 2/3 of who you play in the regular season.

I don't care about that. I want to go into New England or Pittsburgh in January thinking we might win. I want to see an AFC Championship game, at least, in year 5. I want a team that is credible to win the Super Bowl. A Reid/Smith team is not a credible threat even if the aging difference makers on defense hold up for another year. Mahomes is a few years away in a best case.

And we are still laying all our hopes on Reid becoming something he's never been.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12979088)

Reid will never win a super bowl, and no roster or singular super star will push him over the top.
Too many deficiencies.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12979093)

I can't stop laughing at people who pushed a Geno Smith agenda here for years that guarantee this shit about Reid.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12977837)

He never started more than 2 games until his 3rd year in the league.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12979088)

Reid will never win a super bowl, and no roster or singular super star will push him over the top.
Too many deficiencies.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12979100)

If Mahomes turns into a top 5 QB this team will make a SB

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12979101)

He doesn't even need to be a top 5 QB. He needs to be in the top 10 and make the downfield throws to open up the offense.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12979093)

I can't stop laughing at people who pushed a Geno Smith agenda here for years that guarantee this shit about Reid.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12977679)

Clark doesn't want to win and won't make the decisions to do so?

"The Chiefs have traded with the Buffalo Bills for the 10th pick. With the 10th pick, the Kansas City Chiefs select Patrick Mahomes II."

What about that tells you we don't want to win? If this was said any time before April I would see your point, but now?

FFS

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12979001)

Conjecture. A huge hypothetical pile of garbage. For all you know he didn't even tell Andy until after he agreed to a contract extension. None of us, including you, have any idea what Andy knew or what he wanted.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12979218)

Hunt just fired the guy who did that.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12979220)

Almost positive Hunt said in an interview he discussed the move with reid before making it.

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12979090)

Some of you really think winning in the NFL is just some walk in the park. What teams are going into New England in January and winning now? It's not happening. That doesn't dismiss how really great Andy Reid is as a head coach.

You also have no idea that Mahomes is a few years away. No one thought Dak was going to do what he did last year. Mahomes could be ready next year. You just don't know. But you'll certainly pretend to on this message board.

I'm thankful to have Andy Reid as the coach of this team. He's won 43 games in 4 years here. Not all of those wins were against bad/mediocre teams. What a ****ing narrative all of this is.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 12979220)

Almost positive Hunt said in an interview he discussed the move with reid before making it.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12979329)

Andy Reid might be a top 5 head coach in the NFL today.

That, however, doesn't change the fact that his clock and game management contributed to a lost opportunity in a SB with the Eagles, and also contributed to the Chiefs losses to the Colts and the Steelers in the playoffs.

Someone pointed out in another thread that Alex tried a couple of downfield passes in that Steeler playoff game, but that doesn't change the fact that with 9 minutes to go needing 8 points, there was no sense of urgency, no consideration that they might need two scoring drives to have a chance.

He's a very good coach, but his flaws just might equal or outweigh his strengths when it matters most.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12979329)

Andy Reid might be a top 5 head coach in the NFL today.

That, however, doesn't change the fact that his clock and game management contributed to a lost opportunity in a SB with the Eagles, and also contributed to the Chiefs losses to the Colts and the Steelers in the playoffs.

Someone pointed out in another thread that Alex tried a couple of downfield passes in that Steeler playoff game, but that doesn't change the fact that with 9 minutes to go needing 8 points, there was no sense of urgency, no consideration that they might need two scoring drives to have a chance.

He's a very good coach, but his flaws just might equal or outweigh his strengths when it matters most.