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Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=352575)

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17461884)

Wow, you're just so much better than people like me. Kudos man.

It took how many years for you to understand this?

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17462690)

It took how many years for you to understand this?

Oh look, it's the butt****ing moron that can't read again.

You don't even understand my position, because you're a borderline reerun.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17462694)

Oh look, it's the butt****ing moron that can't read again.

You don't even understand my position, because you're a borderline reerun.

Lol, why are you so emotional about this? You are the one who has irrational thoughts about some dude that has no impact on your life wearing pink nails and carrying a pink phone.

And lipstick NTTAWWT

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17462696)

Lol, why are you so emotional about this? You are the one who has irrational thoughts about some dude that has no impact on your life wearing pink nails and carrying a pink phone.

What specifically are my "irrational thoughts"?

I'll wait...

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17462527)

“Further explained” my ass.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl-draft/...ombine-outlier

Here’s what this article says about short QBs struggling to throw over the middle. Zero explanation, zero deep dive into statistics, zero citation.

LOL so you don't believe an article talking about the struggles of short QB's seeing over the middle but then when the FACTS OF THE LAST THREE SHORT QB'S PICKED FIRST ARE PRESENTED, YOU WANT TO MAKE FEEBLE EXCUSES LIKE THE DUMB IDIOT YOU ARE?? PLEASE!! ROFL

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I didn’t learn anything.

Of course you didn't. Cause you're a dumbass who doesn't understand the basics. If short QB's are no different than 6'2 guys then why has the majority of the short QB's either failed or been nothing but average?

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Your first comment that I responded to in this thread said Caleb Williams was “barely 6 feet”. First of all, that’s factually incorrect. He measured at 6’1 and 1/8” at the combine. Second of all, you’ve provided no actual evidence of 6’1” QBs being unable to throw over the middle because they can’t see. In fact, Drew Brees, who is even shorter than Williams, is one of the most prolific passers over the middle of the field.

HE MEASURED UNDER 6'1 AT HIS PRO DAY YOU MORON!!..so he IS NOT 6"1 AND IS NOT TALLER THAN BREES. Furthermore Brees is AN OUTLIER!!...you keep bringing up a guy who DOESN'T PLAY LIKE CALEB!!..and when presented with facts about Baker, Kyler and Young you just spew a whole load of contradictory nonsense. Why have all three struggled in the league?? Simple question.

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In this fantasy world you’ve created in your head, does Drew Brees have X-ray vision?

You made a statement that Brees was great throwing over the middle so can you provide those stats smartypants??? :)

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17462162)

Jim Miller did it when the year had a 1 as the first number. 1999.

The last Bears QB before HIM? Some dude named Billy Wade did it in 1962.

If it weren't for the dumbass 85 team, I think everybody in Chicago would have killed themselves by now

That got me curious - and I'm sure this has already been discussed ad nauseum here - but I had to look up the Chiefs 400 yard passing games before Mahomes.

2010 - Cassel threw for 469 in a 49-29 loss to Denver.
2003 - Trent Green threw for 400 on the nose in an OT win against the Packers.
2000 - Grbac threw for 504 in a 31-49 loss to the Raiders.
1983 - Bill Kenney threw for 411 in a loss to the Chargers. The Chiefs threw for over 400 in a loss to Dallas but the yards were split between Kenney and Blackledge.
1965 - Chiefs threw for over 400 against Denver but split between Dawson and....Pete Beathard?
1964 - Lenny threw for 435 and 6 TDs against Denver

So 5 times an individual passer threw for 400+ in a game in 54 years. Mahomes has done it 10 times already in 6 seasons. Insanity.

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17462542)

In 2004, coming off an injury in 2003, Drew Brees was the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. He had 27 TD’s, 7 INT’s and threw for nearly 3500 yards (pretty solid numbers back then). He also finished 5th in OPOY voting and did this while playing in a freaking MARTYBALL offense! He was NOT a bust. :rolleyes:

The talent was always there. Playing for a coach who had a 70’s offensive mindset is what held him back.

Lol dude had ONE YEAR where he didn't throw 15 picks you moron. One "good" season out of five is not good enough. But it doesn't suit your argument that he also struggled in his first five years like Baker and Kyler does it? ROFL

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17462697)

And lipstick NTTAWWT

Are we sure about the lipstick? That somehow does tip things into a new category. That seems like the next step is just full drag queen. If that happens this show is about to get really good.

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17462376)

Unfortunately the penis reduction surgery didn't take for Bearcat. It just promoted new growth. Now he's got two heads on a massive hawg. He can get in both holes with one shaft. Quite the blessing.

Spoiler!

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17462727)

Are we sure about the lipstick? That somehow does tip things into a new category. That seems like the next step is just full drag queen. If that happens this show is about to get really good.

The post that started this shitshow

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17461257)

Seriously. Not even ****ing around anymore. What in the hell is wrong with Gayleb Williams? Dress, pink fingernails, pink lip gloss, pink phone. And he's responding to the trolls who are obviously getting to him. If any one of these events happens and I'm a GM, I'm concerned. If all of them happen, no way in freaking hell am I drafting this fruitcake. #NTTAWWT

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-theme="dark"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pictured is the number 1 pick in the upcoming draft (NFL). <br>Name: Caleb Williams as see here W a pink phone, pink lip gloss and pink painted nails. <br>Woke idiologist have infected or destroyed literally everything...<br>Is this woke <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a>, DEI requirements or both? <a href="https://t.co/hfu7dVdmtd">pic.twitter.com/hfu7dVdmtd</a></p>— ⚓ Liberty Quahog ⚓ (@LibertyQuahog) <a href="https://twitter.com/LibertyQuahog/status/1773421562424615291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17462732)

The post that started this shitshow

Yeah I guess I was just not 100% that it wasn't lighting or natural pink color. But now that I think about it I'm sure you're right.

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17462744)

Yeah I guess I was just not 100% that it wasn't lighting or natural pink color. But now that I think about it I'm sure you're right.

Ah yeah, not 100% sure

The whole photo looks off, from the hand placement, to the earring, probably fake

AI generated photo of Ryan Leaf meets Jussie Smollett

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17462702)

Ummm, no. No, I don’t. The article literally just says “short QBs struggle to throw over the middle because they can’t see over the linemen”. That’s it.

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I can’t say definitively. You’re talking about a small sample size, which I think has a lot to do with scouting biases. That bias seems to be going the way of the dodo if recent trends are any indication.

Doug Flutie, Mike Vick, Baker Mayfield, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Jeff Garcia, and Tua Tagovailoa are/were all plus starters in the modern NFL who stood at 6’1” or shorter.

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You are legitimately too stupid to breathe. He measured 6’ 1 & 1/8” at the combine and 6’ 0 & 7/8” at his pro day. That is well within the normal range of height variation for an individual.

Here, go ahead and read this. You might learn something.

https://www.arcjournals.org/journal-...me-3-issue-1/4

There’s a multitude of reasons Baker and Kyler have struggled in the league. I don’t think I’d put their height in the top 5 for either.

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You made a statement that Brees was great throwing over the middle so can you provide thise stats smartypants??? :)

K, so you think Brees threw for 80,000 yards and nearly 600 TDs throwing outside of the hashes? Lol. Sure, chief. I’ll get right on that!