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DJ's left nut 04-16-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9592092)
I think he cares, but just can't demonstrate it.

I think he cared; now I think he's become removed enough from his family that he thinks of them as a fond memory. He doesn't seem to have any active role in their lives and seems wholly content with that.

I'm sure it's intentional that the 3 women you've cited as his only positive influences are the only 3 major female characters that he's not slept with on that show. He does seem to create a dichotomy between women and **** toys but I'm not sure when or how he draws that line. Maybe they're all **** toys and the ones that don't bang him slowly evolve into women that he can then see as positive influences on his life.

Demonpenz 04-16-2013 12:01 PM

I think Don treats megan like a little kid because that is how men treated woman in those days

Jenson71 04-16-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9592102)

It's mostly become a show full of devoutly unhappy people that make it easy to hope they all somehow die in the same subway accident. There's no more of the comic relief provided by Roger or the glimpses of brilliantly talented but tortured 'alpha-male' that make us forget that Don's probably a cad.

Mad Men is slowly turning into a snuff film.

Even Sally, who showed a lot of promising qualities in the middle seasons, has become a loathing bitch.

On the other hand, Roger's delayed breakdown was touching.

Demonpenz 04-16-2013 01:51 PM

I did love the way Don destroyed the Jaguar pitch...

bowener 04-16-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9590925)
Did you watch last night's episode? If so, let me know and I'll include spoiler tags.

Yeah, I'm up to date on everything. Thanks.

Discuss Thrower 04-16-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9592025)
That's a different and valid take, although I disagree with the sentiment that he cares about his family, albeit, children. I don't think he gives a shit. Otherwise, he'd be far more involved in their lives.

Also, consider its not made clear when Don started his womanizing ways. He didn't seem like a man capable of being smooth with women when he was still Dick in Korea. Do used car salesman have game? Did it start when he was a furrier?

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9592927)
Also, consider its not made clear when Don started his womanizing ways. He didn't seem like a man capable of being smooth with women when he was still Dick in Korea. Do used car salesman have game? Did it start when he was a furrier?

In all honesty, I have no desire to find out.

What made this show great for me was that it depicted an exciting era, city and industry. Don's story was certainly compelling.

Now, it's beginning to feel, as I mentioned earlier, "cartoonish". It's almost becoming whiny, because the creator of the series seems intent on making Don a textbook case for his identity. Instead of Don realizing his faults and making headstrong decisions to combat and overcome, he just keeps falling into the same routine which yield the same results. It's become stale.

I'm just waiting for them to reveal that he was in 40's porn films, then watch him jump off the building in Manhattan during the series finale.

Reaper16 04-16-2013 04:44 PM

I'm fine with the repetition, with some characters repeatedly making the same mistakes. To a point, anyway. There's a danger of the repetition feeling less and less like a deliberate statement and more like a show circling around because its contracted to provide more seasons than there really should be.

I'm not worried about this season yet. I thought the two-part opener was good. The most recent episode absolutely didn't need those flashbacks, but I have faith in the show to recover from what felt like a C-level episode. It seemed largely about putting pieces into place anyway, and still had stuff to really like (namely Trudy).

Baby Lee 04-16-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9592970)
In all honesty, I have no desire to find out.

What made this show great for me was that it depicted an exciting era, city and industry. Don's story was certainly compelling.

Now, it's beginning to feel, as I mentioned earlier, "cartoonish". It's almost becoming whiny, because the creator of the series seems intent on making Don a textbook case for his identity. Instead of Don realizing his faults and making headstrong decisions to combat and overcome, he just keeps falling into the same routine which yield the same results. It's become stale.

I'm just waiting for them to reveal that he was in 40's porn films, then watch him jump off the building in Manhattan during the series finale.

Not to break the string, but do you ever make contact with the UBC/Earwolf crowd?

DaneMcCloud 04-16-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9594223)
Not to break the string, but do you ever make contact with the UBC/Earwolf crowd?

Yes. I was just at Matt and Jimmy's studio Saturday.

Demonpenz 04-17-2013 02:15 PM

Peggy's secretary reminded me of Dave Chapelle when he is that guy who is on crack.

siberian khatru 04-21-2013 09:05 PM

Hypocrite much, Don?

Discuss Thrower 04-21-2013 09:46 PM

Goddamn this has been a heavy episode.

Pushead2 04-21-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9613079)
Goddamn this has been a heavy episode.

definitely - it was one of the better ones in a while.

Buck 04-22-2013 06:18 PM

Don is on a downward spiral. I wonder if he dies in the finale.


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