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JPH83 04-07-2023 05:30 AM

PFF, couple of trades. Would not hate this. Finally have a bendy DE alongside traditional Spags requirement depth with McGuire. Brooks as versatile pass rush depth across the line. Martin as the run stuffer. DL is practically rebuilt and cheap. Morris is the developmental OT you hope makes it. We've got more depth and competition at safety and CB, probably overkill but sod it. Lastly we have WR depth with a small gadget guy and a big body in Tillman. Mitchell completes the weapons bonanza as a possible McKinnon replacement who might transition to WR.

I miss the chance to take a TE, which I might regret, and I've overloaded in some positions so may end up with good players on the PS, but I can live with it. I've chosen to punt longer term issues like LB and IOL down the line.

36. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, DE
66. Nathaniel Dell, WR
77. Cedric Tillmam, WR
95. Wanya Morris, OT
105. Isaiah McGuire, DE
122. Karl Brooks, DE/DT
134. Anthony Johnson, S
166. Keaton Mitchell, RB
178. Cory Trice, CB
249. Brodric Martin, DT

Chief Roundup 04-09-2023 10:21 AM

33
Mazi Smith
DL | Michigan

63
Derick Hall
EDGE | Auburn

68
Matthew Bergeron
OT | Syracuse

95
Cedric Tillman
WR | Tennessee

104
Jordan Battle
S | Alabama

111
Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
CB | TCU

122
Nick Broeker
IOL | Mississippi

126
Luke Schoonmaker
TE | Michigan

134
Andrew Vorhees
IOL | USC

Chief Roundup 04-09-2023 11:00 AM

33
Darnell Wright
OT | Tennessee

63
Derick Hall
EDGE | Auburn

80
Sam LaPorta
TE | Iowa

95
Cedric Tillman
WR | Tennessee

104
Jordan Battle
S | Alabama

122
Byron Young (AL)
DL | Alabama

134
Andrew Vorhees
IOL | USC

Chief Roundup 04-09-2023 11:11 AM

31
Bryan Bresee
DL | Clemson

64
Keion White
EDGE | Georgia Tech

95
Matthew Bergeron
OT | Syracuse

103
A.T. Perry
WR | Wake Forest

122
Zack Kuntz
TE | Old Dominion

134
Isaiah McGuire
EDGE | Missouri

duncan_idaho 04-10-2023 05:26 PM

I didn't run this, but egads. I think I've found the worst "pro" mock.

In news I'm sure will surprise no one on this forum, it comes from Walter Football. The only surprise is that it isn't old Walter himself.

https://walterfootball.com/draft2023...php?tl#ovrl_95

It has the Chiefs going:

1.31 Drew Sanders
2.63 Cam Smith
3.85 Zach Charbonnet

So with 1, 2, and 3, the Chiefs draft a player at the 3 deepest and least critical spots on the roster. LOL

JohnnyHammersticks 04-10-2023 08:06 PM

32 Peter Skoronski OT Northwestern
64 Isaiah Foskey EDGE Notre Dame
96 Cedric Tillman WR Tennessee
123 Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion
135 Mike Morris EDGE Michigan
168 Jonathan Mingo WR Ole Miss
180 Robert Beal Jr. EDGE Georgia
219 Mohamed Ibrahim RB Minnesota
251 Kobie Turner IDL Wake Forest
252 A.T. Perry WR Wake Forest

TDN is finally finished beta testing.

CatfishBob2 04-10-2023 08:24 PM

When your city is hosting the nfl draft and you want to make a big splash with your first pick you go with.........

31.Dawand Jones OT Ohio State

63.Siaki Ika DT Baylor
95.DJ Johnson EDGE Oregon
122.Dontayvion Wicks WR Virginia
134.Tyjae Spears RB Tulane
166.Trey Dean S Florida
178.Brenton Cox Jr. EDGE Florida
217.Connor Galvin OT Baylor
249.Justin Shorter WR Florida
250.Davis Allen TE Clemson

Couch-Potato 04-11-2023 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16897403)
32 Peter Skoronski OT Northwestern
64 Isaiah Foskey EDGE Notre Dame
96 Cedric Tillman WR Tennessee
123 Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion
135 Mike Morris EDGE Michigan
168 Jonathan Mingo WR Ole Miss
180 Robert Beal Jr. EDGE Georgia
219 Mohamed Ibrahim RB Minnesota
251 Kobie Turner IDL Wake Forest
252 A.T. Perry WR Wake Forest

TDN is finally finished beta testing.

Wow! They're not too high on AT Perry then, huh?

BossChief 04-12-2023 07:10 PM

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I’m diggin some of the 5 round mocks I’m doing while trading down…but I’m sure the talent that falls in the sum isn’t very realistic…

Couch-Potato 04-13-2023 09:06 AM

KC
31.
Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee

KC
63.
Tuli Tuipulotu
EDGE USC

KC
95.
Jaquelin Roy
DT LSU

KC
122.
Wanya Morris
OT Oklahoma

KC
134.
Bryce Ford-Wheaton
WR West Virginia

KC
166.
Hunter Luepke
RB North Dakota State

KC
178.
Keaton Mitchell
RB East Carolina

KC
217.
Karl Brooks
DT Bowling Green

KC
249.
Daniel Scott
S California

KC
250.
Kaevon Merriweather
S Iowa

Couch-Potato 04-13-2023 09:07 AM

KC
31.
Darnell Wright
OT Tennessee

KC
63.
Keeanu Benton
DT Wisconsin

KC
95.
Zach Harrison
EDGE Ohio State

KC
122.
Jonathan Mingo
WR Ole Miss

KC
134.
Braeden Daniels
OG Utah

KC
166.
Roschon Johnson
RB Texas

KC
178.
YaYa Diaby
EDGE Louisville

KC
217.
Josh Whyle
TE Cincinnati

KC
249.
Lew Nichols III
RB Central Michigan

KC
250.
Daniel Scott
S California

Couch-Potato 04-13-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16900470)
KC
31.
Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee

KC
63.
Tuli Tuipulotu
EDGE USC

KC
95.
Jaquelin Roy
DT LSU

KC
122.
Wanya Morris
OT Oklahoma

KC
134.
Bryce Ford-Wheaton
WR West Virginia

KC
166.
Hunter Luepke
RB North Dakota State

KC
178.
Keaton Mitchell
RB East Carolina

KC
217.
Karl Brooks
DT Bowling Green

KC
249.
Daniel Scott
S California

KC
250.
Kaevon Merriweather
S Iowa

This might be exactly what I want in the draft.

Abba-Dabba 04-15-2023 06:55 PM

what I want with how it fell.

31 Anton Harrison OT | Oklahoma
63 Keeanu Benton DL | Wisconsin
95 Jonathan Mingo WR | Mississippi
122 Jayden Reed WR | Michigan State
134 K.J. Henry EDGE | Clemson
166 Terell Smith CB | Minnesota
178 Josh Whyle TE | Cincinnati
217 Jay Ward S | LSU
249 Myles Brooks CB | Louisiana Tech
250 Jordan Mims RB | Fresno State

Couch-Potato 04-16-2023 05:18 PM

31: R1 P31 DL Keion White - Georgia Tech
63: R2 P32 OT Dawand Jones - Ohio State
95: R3 P32 DL Jaquelin Roy - LSU
122: R4 P20 WR A.T. Perry - Wake Forest
134: R4 P32 WR Trey Palmer - Nebraska
166: R5 P31 RB Keaton Mitchell - East Carolina
197: R6 P20 WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton - West Virginia
217: R6 P40 FB Hunter LueKe - North Dakota State
225: R7 P8 TE Josh Whyle - Cincinnati
249: R7 P32 CB Justin Ford - Montana
250: R7 P33 EDGE Tavius Robinson - Ole Miss

BossChief 04-16-2023 08:25 PM

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This one would be 🤩

BossChief 04-16-2023 08:33 PM

Sign me all the at up


KC
36.

Zay Flowers
WR Boston College
trade icon
KC
63.

Gervon Dexter
DT Florida
KC
69.

Derick Hall
EDGE Auburn
trade icon
KC
77.

Julius Brents
CB Kansas State
trade icon
KC
134.

Jaquelin Roy
DT LSU
KC
166.

Riley Moss
CB Iowa

Couch-Potato 04-18-2023 10:10 AM

PFF

1st RB Bijan Robinson
2nd WR Jalin Hyatt
3rd OT Blake Freeland
4th DE Zach Harrison
4th DT Jaquelin Roy
5th OL Braeden Daniels
6th RB Kenny Mcintosh
6th FB Hunter Luepke
7th WR Andrei Iosivas
7th DL Dante Stills

Let's go!

BossChief 04-18-2023 11:15 PM

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I’ve noticed that Hyatt is being picked in the mid 60s now in the PFF mock by users. I can’t fall in love with him. Not sure he will be a high quality nfl starter



This would be great value and possibly realistic if we were to trade down

Dunerdr 04-19-2023 01:43 PM

Man PFN has really turned up the trade temptation as it gets closer lol. I've been offered Aiyuik, Kmet and Mekai Becton. All were tempting with the trades offered.

The Franchise 04-20-2023 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16908665)
Man PFN has really turned up the trade temptation as it gets closer lol. I've been offered Aiyuik, Kmet and Mekai Becton. All were tempting with the trades offered.

I like how PFN offers trades. It caught me off guard one time because a team wanted to trade down and I almost didn't notice that they wanted Willie Gay back in the trade.

Dunerdr 04-20-2023 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16909685)
I like how PFN offers trades. It caught me off guard one time because a team wanted to trade down and I almost didn't notice that they wanted Willie Gay back in the trade.

It gets me fired up lol. I love it really ups the intensity.

BossChief 04-20-2023 10:57 AM

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This is the thermo nuclear draft that wouldn’t happen, but my dick would pretty much explode.


KC
50.

Zay Flowers
WR Boston College
trade icon
KC
54.

Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
trade icon
KC
63.

B.J. Ojulari
EDGE LSU
KC
85.

Sam LaPorta
TE Iowa
trade icon
KC
122.

Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
CB TCU
KC
134.

Tyjae Spears
RB Tulane
KC
166.

Colby Wooden
DT Auburn

BossChief 04-20-2023 12:15 PM

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This is kinda fun

Couch-Potato 04-20-2023 07:31 PM

1st - DE Myles Murphy
2nd - WR Jalin Hyatt
3rd - S Sydney Brown
4th - DT Jaquelin Roy
4th - OL Nick Saldiveri
5th - OL Braeden Daneils
6th - WR Xavier Hutchinson
6th - RB Kenny Mcintoch
7th - ED Derek Parish
7th - FB Hunter Luepke

Thrive!

Abba-Dabba 04-20-2023 09:13 PM

31 Anton Harrison OT | Oklahoma
63 Keeanu Benton DL | Wisconsin
95 Rashee Rice WR | SMU
122 K.J. Henry EDGE | Clemson
134 Zack Kuntz TE | Old Dominion
166 Jakorian Bennett CB | Maryland
178 Jay Ward S | LSU
217 Myles Brooks CB | Louisiana Tech
249 Ronnie Bell WR | Michigan
250 Jordan Mims RB | Fresno State

MahomesMagic 04-21-2023 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16909841)
This is the thermo nuclear draft that wouldn’t happen, but my dick would pretty much explode.


KC
50.

Zay Flowers
WR Boston College
trade icon
KC
54.

Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
trade icon
KC
63.

B.J. Ojulari
EDGE LSU
KC
85.

Sam LaPorta
TE Iowa
trade icon
KC
122.

Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson
CB TCU
KC
134.

Tyjae Spears
RB Tulane
KC
166.

Colby Wooden
DT Auburn

LaPorta is the later round TE I'm targeting.

JPH83 04-21-2023 03:04 AM

This is my "meh, who needs a RT" draft using PFF

33. Felix Anudike-Azomah - DE - Bend and burst from the edge
65. Nathaniel Dell - WR - Gadget/separation/Hardman replacement guy
73. Tucker Kraft - TE - Let's extend Kelce's career shall we?
95. Isaiah McGuire - DE - Spags type to round out the edge group
122. Kobie Turner - DT - Juice to make our DT group horrible on passing downs
134. Jacquelin Roy - DT - Lump at NT with possible upside
166. Starling Thomas V - CB - Rapid, just adding to the group to future proof
178. Anthony Johnson - S - As above, also can play CB
217. Jalen Moreno-Cropper - Was thinking Matt Landers but this is too good value. Also v small but great route runner. Might work if Dell really is just too small
249. Trevor Reid - T - Meh suppose we should have a tackle
250. Mohammed Ibrahim - Meh suppose we should have a RB

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-21-2023 08:58 PM

35.Anton HarrisonOT Oklahoma
(trade pick 31 with Indy for pick 35 and 2024 2nd round pick)
63.Cedric Tillman WR Tennessee
95.Ji'Ayir Brown S Penn State
134.Byron Young DT Alabama
166.Charles Jones WR Purdue
178.Riley Moss CB Iowa
217.Mohamed Ibrahim RB Minnesota
249.Nesta Jade Silvera DT Arizona State
250. Ben Sims TE Baylor
2024 IND 2nd

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-21-2023 09:17 PM

Sign me up!

Trade 31 for 2022 125, WR B.Aiyuk, 2024 SF 2nd
63. Cody Mauch
OT North Dakota State

95.Keeanu Benton
DT Wisconsin

99.Sam LaPorta
TE Iowa

126.Nick Hampton
EDGE Appalachian State

134.Ronnie Hickman
S Ohio State

166. Riley Moss
CB Iowa

178. Deuce Vaughn
RB Kansas State

190. Michael Wilson
WR Stanford

217. Jalen Redmond
DT Oklahoma

249.Jerome Carvin
OG Tennessee

BossChief 04-22-2023 12:21 AM

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This can be fun when you trade up and the board falls in an ideal order…even when it’s unrealistic.

kccrow 04-22-2023 02:19 PM

Bwahahaha...

Kansas City Receives:
2023: Round 2, Pick 33
2023: Round 3, Pick 65
2023: Round 4, Pick 104
2024: Round 6
2024: Round 6
Houston Receives:
2023: Round 1, Pick 31
Kansas City Receives:
2023: Round 3, Pick 99
2023: Round 3, Pick 102
2023: Round 5, Pick 164
2023: Round 6, Pick 216
San Francisco Receives:
2023: Round 3, Pick 95
Kansas City Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 172
2023: Round 6, Pick 209
2024: Round 7
New York Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 166
Kansas City Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 173
2023: Round 7, Pick 253
San Francisco Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 172
Kansas City Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 175
2023: Round 6, Pick 181
2024: Round 7
Tampa Bay Receives:
2023: Round 5, Pick 173

My Selections
33Chiefs Logo
Anton HarrisonOT | Oklahoma LogoOklahomaTRADE
63Chiefs Logo
Siaki IkaDL | Baylor LogoBaylor
65Chiefs Logo
Rashee RiceWR | SMU LogoSMUTRADE
99Chiefs Logo
Daiyan HenleyLB | Washington State LogoWashington StateTRADE
102Chiefs Logo
Zacch PickensDL | South Carolina LogoSouth CarolinaTRADE
104Chiefs Logo
Tyler ScottWR | Cincinnati LogoCincinnatiTRADE
122Chiefs Logo
Blake FreelandOT | BYU LogoBYU
134Chiefs Logo
Isaiah McGuireEDGE | Missouri LogoMissouri
164Chiefs Logo
Josh WhyleTE | Cincinnati LogoCincinnatiTRADE
175Chiefs Logo
Eric GrayRB | Oklahoma LogoOklahomaTRADE
178Chiefs Logo
Dylan HortonEDGE | TCU LogoTCU
181Chiefs Logo
Nick SaldiveriOT | Old Dominion LogoOld DominionTRADE
209Chiefs Logo
Aidan O'ConnellQB | Purdue LogoPurdueTRADE
216Chiefs Logo
Anthony Johnson Jr.CB | Iowa State LogoIowa StateTRADE
217Chiefs Logo
Evan HullRB | Northwestern LogoNorthwestern
249Chiefs Logo
Cameron YoungDL | Mississippi State LogoMississippi State
250Chiefs Logo
Jay WardS | LSU LogoLSU
253Chiefs Logo
Hunter LuepkeRB | North Dakota State LogoNorth Dakota StateTRADE


So here's my roster...

QB P. Mahomes II, B. Gabbert, A. O'Connell, S. Buechele
RB I. Pacheco, E. Gray, E. Hull, C. Edwards-Helaire
FB H. Luepke
WR K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, R. Rice, S. Moore, T. Scott, R. James, J. Ross
TE T. Kelce, Gray, J. Whyle, J. Fortson, B. Bell
OT A. Harrison, J. Taylor, B. Freeland, L. Niang, P. Tega-Wanogho
IL J. Thuney, C. Humphrey, T. Smith, N. Allegretti, N. Saldiveri, D. Kinnard

DE G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, M. Danna, I. McGuire, D. Horton, M. Herring
DT C. Jones, S. Ika, Z. Pickens, C. Young, D. Nnadi, T. Wharton
LB N. Bolton, D. Tranquill, D. Henley, L. Chenal, W. Gay
CB L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Watson, R. Wright, J. Williams, N. Johnson
DB J. Reid, M. Edwards, B. Cook, A. Johnson, J. Ward, D. Bush

ST H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester

I'm thinking we could trim that down to a Lombardi

kozzman555 04-22-2023 05:51 PM

PFN Mock. There's no way Van Ness falls to 31, but **** it, I'll take it. I'd love some input on this draft, I think I hit it really well, only had one minor trade down, but it worked out, IMFO.

31. Lukas Van Ness
EDGE Iowa

63. Keeanu Benton
DT Wisconsin

96. Jaelyn Duncan
OT Maryland

122. Jonathan Mingo
WR Ole Miss

134. Zacch Pickens
DT South Carolina

166. Tyjae Spears
RB Tulane

168. Riley Moss
CB Iowa

178. Luke Schoonmaker
TE Michigan

249. Jerome Carvin
OG Tennessee

250. Matt Landers
WR Arkansas

ntexascardfan 04-23-2023 07:43 PM

Has anyone tried the new ESPN simulator that dropped yesterday?

kozzman555 04-23-2023 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 16913293)
Has anyone tried the new ESPN simulator that dropped yesterday?

The rankings, IMHO, make more sense than PFN, but the layout/end user experience is hot garbage. No player info, really simplistic, etc. Some of the rankings are wild though. I did two quick mocks with them and got WR Addison and DT Bresee at 31 and DT Benton at 63.

kccrow 04-24-2023 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 16913293)
Has anyone tried the new ESPN simulator that dropped yesterday?

https://espnsportsanalytics.com/nfl-sim

kccrow 04-24-2023 11:29 AM

The first crack at the ESPN simulator, I made a move up for Broderick Jones when he slipped to 20.

Pick
Player
Player Rank
Chance Available at Pick
Chance Available at Next Pick
20
Broderick Jones OT
13
13%
<5%
83
Zacch Pickens DT
68
42%
24%
95
A.T. Perry WR
88
60%
20%
134
Luke Schoonmaker TE
84
28%
9%
166
Rejzohn Wright CB
122
92%
88%
178
DeMarvion Overshown ILB
133
56%
33%
217
Sean Tucker RB
178
64%
47%
249
Eku Leota DE
220
58%
58%
250
Bryce Ford-Wheaton WR
284
81%
--%
#
Gained
Lost
1
•Pick 20
•Pick 83

•Pick 31
•Pick 63
•Pick 122

duncan_idaho 04-24-2023 01:52 PM

Just a 4-rounder

1.31 Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama. Maybe, as things shake out, one of the few guys worthy of a round 1 pick in this draft?

2.63 Keanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin. We've talked about him a lot. Nice pick for 2023 and the future.

3.82 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. Last of this tier, I moved up to make sure I got one. Instant competiton at RT.

4.122 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. Yes, the Chiefs' LB corps is stacked, but Overshown is a nice long-term prospect at coverage backer (and gives you insurance there if you decide you can't rightly pay Gay or Tranquill).

stopped there. But I see the value of this, especially if you're using Gibbs more like Deebo Samuel...

Nightfyre 04-24-2023 04:29 PM

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Not a terrible effort. My thought is that Veach doesn't ever hesitate to pay the third and fourth to take a shot at a premium edge rusher. We have arguably more picks than roster spots, so it makes sense to move up at some point. I think pfns board really falls apart after the third round.

Reciever value wasn't there in the second and the premium athlete at guard to plan for Thuneys departure.

duncan_idaho 04-24-2023 07:32 PM

Guys, please realize that when you pull the trigger on Mauch , you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid.

Dante84 04-24-2023 11:05 PM

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No trades; addressed major needs.

The more of these I do, the more I think we just smash the DLine early.

Nightfyre 04-25-2023 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16914905)
Guys, please realize that when you pull 5he trigger on March, you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid.

I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?
In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.
Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think.

duncan_idaho 04-25-2023 12:56 PM

*** 2023 Draft Simulator Mocks ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16915413)
I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?

In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.

Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think.



You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.



I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.



Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't project to contribute until 1/2 through his rookie contract.

The Franchise 04-25-2023 03:00 PM

Not even really counting those last two picks based on me not thinking that they'd be there.

31. Quentin Johnston, WR TCU
63. Luke Musgrave, TE Oregon State
95. Zacch Pickens, DT South Carolina
122. Wanya Morris, OT Oklahoma
134. Jaquelin Roy, DT LSU
166. Riley Moss, CB Iowa
178. YaYa Diaby, EDGE Louisville
217. Jose Ramirez, EDGE Eastern Michigan
249. Keondre Coburn, DT Texas
250. Nick Saldiveri, OT Old Dominion

kccrow 04-25-2023 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16915887)
You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.

I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.

Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't prokect to contrinbute until 1/2 through his rookie contract.

I don't know what the means but man if I'm not on board with the rest of it. :D

duncan_idaho 04-26-2023 10:01 AM

Here's my last mock of the cycle, completed on the ESPN simulator (which seems to have the best board right now).

1.31 Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame. Mayer slipped a little, the T I liked at this spot were gone, as were WR, and RB. So I nabbed Mayer with the plan of drastically ramping up the amount of 12 set I play in 23 and forward. This lets me use Kelce in the big slot role basically exclusively, while adding a nice playmaker long-term for Mahomes.

2.50 Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. I made teh Mayer pick planning to move up into the middle of the 2nd for a DL player, and when Smith slipped, he became the pick. To facilitate, I sent 63, 134, and a 2024 3rd to Tampa for 50 and a 2024 5th.

3.84 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. I wanted to add competition and versatility to the OL, and chose to move up to get Freeland and accomplish that. It cost me 95, 178, and a 2024 4th, though I again received a 2024 5th back. Odds are good one of those 5ths I've netted will be within 10 picks of the 4th I just surrendered.

4.122 Robert Beal, Jr, DE, Georgia. I reached a bit here for Beal, but I think he has a lot more in the tank after being relegated to a rotation in a deep and talented Georgia front. The Frank Clark comparisons make sense to me, and I could see him drastically outplaying this draft slot.

5.166 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. He has become one of my favorites in the middle rounds. ST guy in 23 with the ability to slide into a pass defending-LB role in 24 if both Tranquill and Gay price themselves out.

6217 Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan. I finally return to the pass catchers and add an oft-injured but speedy and shift opton on offense.

7.249 Holton Ahlers, QB, Eastern Carolina. WIth back-to-back 7ths and no DBs I like really available, I swung on Ahlers, who could be a cheap long-term backup solution for Mahomes.

7.250 Dee Winters, LB, TCU. He's fast and fearless, if undersized. Seems like a good ST contributor, if nothing else.

I would have really liked to squeeze in a DB somewhere in here (probably in place of one of the LB) but just never had someone in smart range that I actually liked and thought fit what KC does.

Post draft depth:

QB Mahomes/Gabbert (Ahlers to PS)
RB Pacheco/Edwards-Helaire/FA
FB ONLY RYAN TRACY AND ANDY REID CARE
WR Toney/Valdes-Scantling/Moore/James/Watson/Bell
TE Kelce/Mayer/Gray/Fortson
OT Taylor/Niang/Freeland/Tano-Wanogho
OG Thuney/Smith/Kinnard
C Humphrey/FA

DE Karlaftis/Omenihu/Danna/Beal/Vet FA
DT Jones/Smith/Nnadi/Wharton

LB Bolton/Tranquill/Gay/Chenal/Overshown/(Winters to PS)
CB Sneed/McDuffie/Williams/Watson/ (this is where I'd like to slot in a DB instead of Winters in my draft or a FA)
S Reid/Cook/Mike Edwards/Bush

K Butker
P Townsend
LS Winchester

By my count, that's 49 spots. I'd expect a few more DBs and WRs to flesh out the ST units. I'd feel really good about this squad.

Couch-Potato 11-15-2023 07:15 AM

New Simulator:https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/simulator

..I think they're still working out the kinks though

Couch-Potato 11-15-2023 10:47 AM

What offensive concerns?

38.KC

Troy Franklin
WR Oregon

63.KC

Xavier Legette
WR South Carolina

72.KC

Tyler Guyton
OT Oklahoma
trade icon

94.KC

Johnny Wilson
TE Florida State

127.KC

Junior Colson
LB Michigan

223.KC

Zion Nelson
OT Miami (FL)

Couch-Potato 11-15-2023 12:11 PM

Noted that OT Zion Nelson was a potential 1st rounder early last season, then pulled out of the draft, now he's going in like the 7th... what happened?

Alternatively, I noticed DB Quinyon Mitchell was a 7th rounder last year and upgraded to 2-4th rounder this draft depending on the site. Good for him!

Couch-Potato 11-20-2023 03:34 PM

Do any allow for player trades?

I recall the feature, but can't recall which simulator had it.

Couch-Potato 11-20-2023 03:51 PM

Let's get physical...

32. WR Legette
63. DT Sweat (He'll go in the 1st)
94. WR Corley
131. RB Sanders
162. TE Spann-Ford
172. LB C. Jacobs
208. DL M. Kamara

All muscle draft!

Couch-Potato 11-21-2023 09:43 PM

1. WR Keon Coleman
2. WR Brian Thomas Jr
3. WR Brenden Rice
4. WR Tory Horton
5. WR Tre Harris
5. WR Ainias Smith
5. WR De'Corian Smith
6. OT Zion Nelson
7. RB/WR Jaylen Wright

I'm bringing in some competition for the WR room.

JPH83 11-22-2023 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17237798)
1. WR Keon Coleman
2. WR Brian Thomas Jr
3. WR Brenden Rice
4. WR Tory Horton
5. WR Tre Harris
5. WR Ainias Smith
5. WR De'Corian Smith
6. OT Zion Nelson
7. RB/WR Jaylen Wright

I'm bringing in some competition for the WR room.

No enough WRs imo, that 6th round pick needs looking at.

Couch-Potato 11-22-2023 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17237997)
No enough WRs imo, that 6th round pick needs looking at.

lol I was running out of WRs with ridiculous athletic traits and/or stats.

Bring these 7-8 WRs in and let Rice and Toney compete, kick all others to the curb.

Couch-Potato 11-27-2023 04:10 PM

PFF

1. WR Xavier Legette
2. WR Troy Franklin
3. WR Brenden Rice

I love it!

kccrow 11-28-2023 04:08 AM

Did one on PFN...

Traded out of the 1st to pick up a 2025 2nd from NYG then traded out of the 2nd to pick up an early 4th from TB.

37. KC Troy Franklin WR Oregon trade icon
73. KC Patrick Paul OT Houston trade icon
92. KC Cedric Gray LB North Carolina
103. KC Will Sheppard WR Vanderbilt trade icon
126. KC Dontay Corleone DT Cincinnati
154. KC Cade Stover TE Ohio State
2025 NYG 2nd

Couch-Potato 12-14-2023 09:38 AM

Traded C. Jones to AZ for a 2nd (#34) + WR M. Brown, I'll pay Sneed and let Gay walk, let Morris play LT and bring in some low cost competition for Taylor at RT.

1. DT Sweat
2. WR Coleman
2. WR Rice Jr
3. OT Guyton
4. RB Gore Jr
5. TE Spann-Ford
5. LB Ford
5. OT Nelson
6. CB Cypress II
7. RB D. Wright

Brown
Rice
Coleman
Rice Jr

Pachecco
Gore Jr
Wright

Karlaftis
Sweat
Omenihu
FAU

Completely revamped WR Core, but we'll probably need to look for an impact DL player in the draft next year.

JPH83 12-21-2023 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17238040)
lol I was running out of WRs with ridiculous athletic traits and/or stats.

Bring these 7-8 WRs in and let Rice and Toney compete, kick all others to the curb.

Ah sorry meant to upvote not downvote, sorry man!

JPH83 12-21-2023 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17248329)
Did one on PFN...

Traded out of the 1st to pick up a 2025 2nd from NYG then traded out of the 2nd to pick up an early 4th from TB.

37. KC Troy Franklin WR Oregon trade icon
73. KC Patrick Paul OT Houston trade icon
92. KC Cedric Gray LB North Carolina
103. KC Will Sheppard WR Vanderbilt trade icon
126. KC Dontay Corleone DT Cincinnati
154. KC Cade Stover TE Ohio State
2025 NYG 2nd

I'd be pretty damn happy with that

Couch-Potato 12-26-2023 08:09 PM

Simulated tag/sign & trading Jones for #19 pick and Sneed for #57.

#19. DT Newton
#25. OT Mims
#57. CB Mitchell
#59. OT Guyton
#89. WR Rice Jr
#125. LB Colson
#167. DB Simpson
#171. WR Harris
#174. RB Gore Jr
#203. WR Clark
#246. DT Hall
UDFA. RB Wright
UDFA. OT Nelson

Using the money saved on Jones, Sneed, MVS, Gay, Moore, Toney, & Ross to sign FA WRs Evans & Brown, plus DE Clowney.

QB: P. Mahomes,
RB: I. Pacheco, Gore Jr, Wright
WR: M. Evans, M. Brown, R. Rice, Rice Jr, J. Watson, Harris, Clark
TE: T. Kelce,
LT: J. Taylor, Guyton, Nelson
LG: J. Thuney, W. Morris
OC: C. Humphrey
RG: T. Smith, N. Allegretti
RT: Mims, Niang

DE: G. Karlaftis, B. Thompson
DT: Omenihu, Hall
DT: Newton, N. Ferrell, Coburn
DE: Clowney, F. Anudike-Uzomah
LB: N. Bolton, D. Tranquill, L. Chenal, Colson
CB: T. McDuffie,J. Williams, Q. Mitchell
DB: B. Cook, J. Watson, Simpson
ST: H. Butker, Townsend

Kelce and Evans are both good for 1k yards, Brown and Rice are good for 800, that's 3,600 yards already...let's go!

JPH83 12-27-2023 04:42 AM

Obviously the Raiders game has prompted me to lose my mind and go mad on the simulators. This might be my most mad as I went for the numbers game. I'm assuming we let Jones, Reid and maybe Sneed walk, bring in a high-ish level WR and Tyron Smith at LT for a fair whack. So we need weapons. I went for trading down with a million licos, not sure it's something I'd want us to do but fun to get a haul of players.

42. Adonai Mitchell - WR
57. Ja'Tavion Sanders - TE
72. Ricky Pearsall - WR
74. Christian Haynes - G - could redshirt but we need to plan ahead and I like rotating him in next year
89. Tory Horton - WR - starting to lose my mind here. 3 WRs? Probably too much but I'm not seeing reason.
103. Marshawn Kneeland - DE - I reluctantly switch to defense in a panic about Jones going and the DEs not stepping up.
108. Maason Smith - DT - Again, feel like I should plug some gaps
125 - A J Barner - TE - to help with the inevitable awful run blocking, but looks like he could turn into more. A big upgrade on Bell
163 - Javin Foster - OT - Not a big fan of these developmental OTs we've been taking but it's low risk high reward at risk point.
173 - Cade Stover - TE - Better Noah Gray. Back to completely over-compensating for the current s***show. Do we carry 5 TEs? Probably not. Do I care? Nope. All the weapons.
175. Frank Gore Jr - RB - don't like him much but I felt compelled to add a RB
203. Darius Mausau - LB - coverage LB we could do with, good value this late
246. Gabe Hall - DI - competition/fodder. Anyhting to push out Nnadi.

Completely ridiculous I know.

Abba-Dabba 12-27-2023 07:19 PM

NFL Mock Simulator

Traded #25 for #29 and #163




29 Troy Fautanu OT | Washington

57 Kris Jenkins DL | Michigan

89 Jermaine Burton WR | Alabama

125 Max Melton CB | Rutgers - would have prefered Cam Hart here but was gone

160 Jalen McMillan WR | Washington

163 MarShawn Lloyd RB | USC

169 Anthony Belton OT | NC State - moving to OG

Bowser 01-04-2024 07:18 PM

NFL Draft Simulator (I went a little wild with trade downs and getting future picks)

25) Adonai Mitchell - WR Texas

94) Byron Murphy - DT - Texas

125) Javon Foster - OT - Mizzou

131) Cade Stover - TE - Ohio State

164) Jordan Burch - DL - Oregon

170) Ray Davis - RB - Kentucky

181) Xavier Thomas - EDGE - Clemson

214) Tez Johnson - WR - Oregon


Thanks, I kinda hate it. Lol

ntexascardfan 01-14-2024 04:40 PM

Just did my first draft of the year with PFN. I didn't do any trades on the first try.

1) OT - Tyler Guyton - Oklahoma
2) WR - Ja'Lynn Polk - Washington
3) TE - Cade Stover - Ohio State
4) CB - Khyree Jackson - Oregon
5) DT/DE - Justin Eboigbe - Alabama
7) RB - Frank Gore Jr. - Southern Miss

I wanted to avoid the conventional approach of taking a WR in the first. So, I went with securing our future LT in the first.

Ja'Lynn Polk feels like a natural fit in the offense and gives us another fluid big bodied receiver to pair with Rice.

I wanted to go with someone on the defensive side of the ball in the third, but didn't see anyone I liked...so I went with a receiving TE in Stover.

Khyree Jackson feels like the big physical corners we take and turn into top talent.

Eboigbe feels like a guy that could fill the Omenihu role in the long run.

Frank Gore Jr. fits into the Jerrick McKinnon spot on the roster

Couch-Potato 01-19-2024 03:30 PM

PFN Mock:

28.
KC

Malik Nabers
WR LSU
60.
KC

Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE Texas
91.
KC

Jaylen Wright
RB Tennessee
124.
KC

Brenden Rice
WR USC
152.
KC

Tyler Davis
DT Clemson
220.
KC

Zion Nelson
OT Miami (FL)

That'd be exciting.

Couch-Potato 01-20-2024 01:44 PM

PFF

1. DL Murphy ll
2. DL Sweat
3. WR Corley

Icon 02-13-2024 04:59 PM

NFL Mock Database

32 WR Troy Franklin
64 DL Ruke Orhorhoro
95 WR Jermaine Burton
132 CB Jarvis Brownlee Jr
157 RB Ray Davis
175 TE Ben Sinnett

Nightfyre 02-13-2024 09:09 PM

PFN:
48. T'Vondre Sweat, DT Texas
64. Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
95. Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
2025 JAX 2nd

Nightfyre 02-13-2024 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17346468)
PFN Mock:

28.
KC

Malik Nabers
WR LSU
60.
KC

Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE Texas
91.
KC

Jaylen Wright
RB Tennessee
124.
KC

Brenden Rice
WR USC
152.
KC

Tyler Davis
DT Clemson
220.
KC

Zion Nelson
OT Miami (FL)

That'd be exciting.

Nabers falling to 28? Did he have a Ray Rice video in this simulation or something? LOL

Couch-Potato 02-13-2024 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17400791)
Nabers falling to 28? Did he have a Ray Rice video in this simulation or something? LOL

No clue, but I'd scream for joy at the tv while Veach runs to the podium lol.

Sometimes I tweak the "randomness" variable on these mocks to give myself a new look.

Hayneplane 02-14-2024 07:56 PM

Ran the PFF mock twice and both times it had Brock Biwers to Tampa Bay at 26.

If he dropped near that range I could definitely see Veach getting hot on the phone to cook up a trade up.

kccrow 02-15-2024 01:05 AM

1 Attachment(s)
I love simulators lol...

But eh... I'd move like this if I could in the draft

NYG
Received:
Pick 32 - Troy Fautanu
Pick 132 - Isaiah Davis

KC
Received:
Pick 39
Pick 70

KC
Received:
Pick 46 - Xavier Worthy
Pick 82 - Roman Wilson

IND
Received:
Pick 64
Pick 70
Pick 95

KC
Received:
Pick 62 - Ja'Tavion Sanders

BAL
Received:
Pick 82
Pick 171
2025 KC 3rd

Nightfyre 02-15-2024 02:47 AM

1 Attachment(s)
PFN bad?

kccrow 02-15-2024 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17403799)
PFN bad?

Pretty much every simulator is bad, honestly. They are fun to play with and sometimes give you a decent 1st round. After that they are pretty much garbage across the board for player rankings consistently.

Couch-Potato 02-15-2024 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17404161)
Pretty much every simulator is bad, honestly. They are fun to play with and sometimes give you a decent 1st round. After that they are pretty much garbage across the board for player rankings consistently.

The trade scenarios are the worst.

JPH83 02-16-2024 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17404161)
Pretty much every simulator is bad, honestly. They are fun to play with and sometimes give you a decent 1st round. After that they are pretty much garbage across the board for player rankings consistently.

I think PFN is uniquely bad. Every year they have a decent chunk of players that are just nowhere near the consensus and seem to have a load that are on everyone else's radar but theirs. Last year I could get Karl Brooks in R7 and this year it's Khristian Boyd. Fun, but bonkers.

I agree though most tail off after R1. I think as maligned as PFF is it has the best in that you really can't steal any consensus picks early. I'd say their biggest quirk right now is you can get Roman Wilson end of R2, which seems unlikely to me.

CatfishBob2 02-16-2024 09:50 AM

32. Darius Robinson
EDGE, Missouri

64. Mike Sainristil
CB, Michigan

95. Kiran Amegadjie
OT, Yale

132. Javon Baker
WR, UCF

157. Tommy Eichenberg
LB, Ohio St

171. AJ Barner
TE, Michigan

249. Daijun Edwards
RB, Georgia

Toad 02-16-2024 07:51 PM

PFF 4 rounder with trade with Philly

50.
Kingsley Suamataia
OT BYU
trade icon

53.
Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE Texas
trade icon

95.
T'Vondre Sweat
DT Texas

132.
Brenden Rice
WR USC

el borracho 02-28-2024 01:59 PM

The Big Boy Draft:
32 Tyler Guyton OT
64 Cooper Beebe OG
95 Kris Jenkins DT
133 Jaylan Ford LB

I guess we'll have to find our next WR later in the draft, but he'll have plenty of time to get open, lol.

MahomesMagic 03-01-2024 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 17406958)
PFF 4 rounder with trade with Philly

50.
Kingsley Suamataia
OT BYU
trade icon

53.
Ja'Tavion Sanders
TE Texas
trade icon

95.
T'Vondre Sweat
DT Texas

132.
Brenden Rice
WR USC

That would be insane if we walked away with all that.

Couch-Potato 03-03-2024 01:06 PM

Forced a trade I saw the PFF guys suggest...

Chiefs Sneed + 5th = #15 + 6th Colts

1. WR Thomas Jr
1. OT Guyton
2. WR Worthy
3. RB Irving
4. TE Johnson
5. S Simpson
6. RB Gore Jr
7. NT Anderson

I love it!


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