Windows 10 will still be usable and updated for the next 5 years.

There will be multiple ways to bypass the TPM requirement. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the requirements again before release. But they might not. TPM is very useful for admins and organizations. The ones who actually pay Microsoft lots of money...

You’ll be able to bypass Windows 11 TPM 2.0 requirement

Microsoft: Excuse me handsome young varsity captain of the football team. Would you mind making sure no one fondles my 30 year junior wife while she chooses which panties fit her best as I run an errand for 1 hour?

Linux: No sir, I wouldn't. Take your time.

There hasn't been a good Windows OS since XP.

Windows 3.1 is my favorite

LMAO LMAO LMAO

XP and Vista were so bad for Pro Audio that I actually switched to a Mac G5 for a few years.

Windows 7-10 have been extremely stable but wow, XP and Vista were just absolute garbage.

So, I have an old Phenom II X6 computer that I run Windows 10 on. I'm certain that this old computer doesn't have the TPM hardware on it. In fact, this is the most modern computer that I own. 8GB DDR2, HD7850, 1GB HD, no SSD. I have a laptop from work which is much more modern.

Keep wanting to upgrade to a Ryzen 5600X however don't need the speed as I don't play FPS type games after burning out on Quake, Doom and Duke3D.

Half of them are having the dreaded Windows Update failure. DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth and sfc /scannow seem to repair it for several months. I know at some point, AMD and MS are going to stop supporting this hardware.

So, WTF is TPM?

So I read that Windows 11 is replacing the Blue Screen of Death with..


The Black Screen of Death...

No doubt that will make people feel better. I don't get the death screen as frequently as I used to but I have gotten it several times in the last six months.

There is some combination between Visual Studio/Intel/and my software that the operating system doesn't seem thrilled about.

But we are talking about Microsoft where quality is job 1.1

LMAO....

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Satya Nadella has done a great job guiding Microsoft.

Hell raiser rep.

98SE or GTFO

I'm not so sure I want to know... more of the safe boot garbage?

Microsoft won’t stop you installing Windows 11 on older PCs

Microsoft is announcing today that it won’t block people from installing Windows 11 on most older PCs. While the software maker has recommended hardware requirements for Windows 11 — which it’s largely sticking to — a restriction to install the OS will only be enforced when you try to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11 through Windows Update. This means anyone with a PC with an older CPU that doesn’t officially pass the upgrade test can still go ahead and download an ISO file of Windows 11 and install the OS manually.

https://www.theverge.com/22644194/mi...essors-changes

**** I just upgraded to 10 a few months ago.

That's butt ****ing stupid, which is completely on brand for MS as of late. At least they are backing off the requirement.

Should be doing a clean install anyhow.

Has any one used Crucial Scan? It will tell you how much memory you have and how muc
h you can add. Link is https://www.crucial.com/store/systemscanner

Windows 11 I expect will be a huge resource hog. It's 100% going to be their most bloated OS to date.

Rip any machines below 8gigs....

Whatever you post, regardless of topic, one can always bet on the opposite being true...

Microsoft Details How It Made Windows 11 Faster Than Windows 10

Windows 11 has an improved resource management system - there are now higher priority levels attributed to foreground functions (essentially, the program window you're currently focused on), reducing the amount of processing power that's eaten up by background processes.

This prioritization of the work that matters to the user at that precise moment in time also extends to browsers, which are notorious resource hogs in any system: Windows now has improved its ability to pause inactive tabs, thus reducing the amount of system resources demanded from the underlying system - and improving performance on your active tab. The improvements here are nothing to scoff at: Steve Dispensa says the system can have 32% less memory usage and reduce CPU utilization by 37% due to this new tab sleeping function.

Microsoft has also optimized the code that calls hardware functions, reducing the delay between user input and the actual instruction being carried out in hardware, thereby reducing idle time and improving user-perceived responsiveness. This also has a knock-on effect on memory usage and overall performance: optimized instructions reduce memory footprint and improve resource handling from idle to active states.

Microsoft also deployed newer compression techniques that reduced overall OS disk usage, and extended this technique to Windows 11's update functions. Due to the new update engine in Windows 11, Microsoft promises that updates won't require as many resources as they currently do. They'll also have feature performance handling and smarter, faster update delivery that reduces the overall size of the Windows update by 40%.

You are a ****ing moron I literally work in IT......

God damn you are dumb please just know you are a ****ing reerun.

Emptying trash cans maybe.

Lmao

Nah meeting with Microsoft’s executive development team shit like that. You are ****ing reeruned and have no clue what you are talking about.

“Hur dur it’s going to be faster that what the marketing material sent out said”

Jesus Christ,

Do you want me to explain why you are a ****ing reerun or should we just leave it at you are wrong?

Yeah, sure. I bet you're having coffee with Bill next week...

Meanwhile, only one of us has actually downloaded and installed Windows 11. That much is clearly apparent. You're talking out your ass like you do in every thread.

Lmao ok!

You are ****ing stupid and we can just leave it at that! As a Microsoft GOLD partner and CSP, I wouldn’t know much right?

Thousands of licensing deals and actual real world certifications fro. MS-900 to MS-100 along with ITILv4 etc...

Nah downloading a cracked version that had CPU utilization issues totally makes you a expert!

Just remember kids the minimum specs for windows 11 is 8th gen CPUs! Cause you know it’s slimmer and faster after all!

It remains to be seen if either of you are right, but lets be intellectually honest if you are going to present an argument.

The specs are as such because of instruction capabilities of the CPU, not the processing power it takes to run it.

LMAO no that doesn't really mean much with regards to IT knowledge...


Cracked version with CPU utilization issues? See, another indication of how ****ing clueless you are. There's no need for an insider preview of Win11 to be cracked. It's not necessary because it currently doesn't require a license. You have no clue WTF you're talking about.

Win11 runs better than Win10. The improvements are no joke. I can see it with my own eyes because I've actually installed it... clown....

We compairing our IT cocks now?

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I'm not.

Mine's microscopic.

I updated as soon as it was available. I moved the start back to the left and the rest is no real changes IMO. However, it's adding a lot of stress and heat to my processor and my browser (Edge, FFS) won't hold cache. Every load or refresh goes to the webpage I was on when I upgraded. Longer boot time too which isn't a big deal for me except the first time it scared me a bit that my laptop was ****ed.

Yeah just more cosmetic than anything, but it's nice. Looks cleaner and brighter.

What makes you smarter than the rest is you ask the experts before ****ing it up further for yourself.

Running pretty well for me so far. Going to install on my M1 Macbook Pro next...

The entire took like 10 minutes. This is no more than a point release. I'll probably roll back.

Do we know if BreedingRed or Fish was correct yet? That's the most important part of this thread for me.

Lots of benchmarks available now. Wanna take a guess?

I dunno, he LITERALLY WORKS IN IT. Those are some big nuts he's swinging.

I have not touched W11 yet but what a blessing it would be if they somehow killed off Fast Boot.

Psssst... You're a ****ing moron.... Mr. "I'm in IT, but hey do you guys have any recommendations on video editing apps?"

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LMAO,

Lets check bench marks vs 7th Gen CPU's.....

oh how's the memory leak going?
https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-f...mory-leak-bug/

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The new UI just turns me off every time I remote into a customer's machine and they have this shit installed.

Wait till they start accidently key stroking a VM and lose all their work... That will be fun to explain.

While you can manually install Win11 on a 7th gen Intel CPU, it's not officially supported by Microsoft. Upgrade your shitty old hardware. The file explorer memory leak has already been patched. That was from over a month ago.

That's why you tell them that they haven't released a remote client that works with Windows 11 yet, easy peasy.

ROFL

"YOU TOLD US THERE WERE NO ISSUES WITH WINDOWS 11"

"Hi there! That is true. There aren't any issues with the application running on Windows 11. However, Windows 11 does introduce some features that might cause problems for you if the OS is improperly used. You might be more comfortable in a Windows 10 environment, especially since we didn't tell your dumb ass to upgrade."

I would love to do that but they would be absolutely furious with me when they discovered my co-worker could remote in just fine. LMAO

Me: https://c.tenor.com/8ZDLU43omvcAAAAC/kid-thumbs-up.gif

Just started getting the "your system will run better on Win11" sorts of messages. Anybody taken the leap? If so, was it worth it? Win10 has been SOLID on all my devices so I'm stuck between "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and "it'll make things better"... Ugh!

You answered your own question.

"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

We're a ways out before W10 is no longer supported.

I am getting--this device will not support win 11.

I am due for a new laptop anyway. My wife has not upgraded hers yet.

I have a new Surface that came with Windows 11 and it seems..., fine.

Honestly haven't really noticed that much better or worse. Although my main desktop is certainly capable of running Windows 11, haven't seen a big reason to switch from 10 to 11 on it.

Right on. My Surface was the first Win10 device to ask if I wanted Win11.


I'll wait...

I think you wiill need a MS account for WIN 11. That sux.

You need at least a junk email with a junk MS account. But once you activate it, you can still create/use a 'local' account on your device that is not tied to an email.

But yea, annoying.

It's fine. Runs just the same as Win10. The original start menu was clunky, but with the latest updates I'm fine with it. Performance is the same. The windows grouping options are pretty nice. It's a very solid OS. All my games run fine.

No, you can still create an offline account. When you get to the part during setup where it says "Let's add your Microsoft Account," just click on Sign-in Options and select Offline Account.

https://i.imgur.com/ZxHjZeg.png

EDIT: So, apparently the above method does not work with the Win11 Home version. Apologies, I never use the Home version. Supposedly there is a method to still create an offline account with the Win11 Home version by doing a sneaky disconnect of the internet during setup. But if you want seamless install of an offline account, don't get the Home version.

I bought a new laptop with 11. I need to upgrade my work rig because I bought a giant ass monitor and the windows grouping looks nice.

My work desktop gets the same message. I'm almost certain it's because you don't have a TPM chip. The requirements for Win11 are actually quiet miniscule all things considered.

They (the industry) wants us to buy new PCs.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/2...ement-security

I saw an article (can't seem to find it now, it was awhile back around Christmas time), that said Windows 11 was problematic for gamers, and that it had issues with some graphics cards and games, so I have been putting the upgrade off. Has anyone seen anything similiar?

TPM is a requirement for secure computing.

I think there was an AMD related issue early on that's been fixed.

I agree.

In an enterprise environment they are essential and you're dangerously behind the curve if TPM hasn't been implemented at this point. However, I think the requirement for TPM on home PCs to run the latest operating system is a bit overkill at best and at worst a means to pull revenue into the segment of the market which will benefit.

Factors to take into consideration is what your home PC is used for obviously but for your average Joe I think it's overkill.

Just my geek $.02

You can buy a TPM card for many motherboards for $15-50 or so.

You can also install Windows 11 on machines without TPM with a simple registry edit. Even though it's probably not a good idea. Here's how: https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how...y-you-shouldnt

I'm running Nvidia, and have had no issues. Actually, a few of the latest NVidia drivers have been buggy shitty messes that have given me some issues. But it's the NVidia drivers not the OS, because the same driver issues are happening in Win10 too.

Thanks for the info. I am running a 3060TI on my rig with no issues with WIN10 Pro....so I may consider doing the upgrade the next time it pops up....although it is running well so I might not mess with a good thing.

There isn’t much point to upgrade to windows 11 for home PCs and adoption rate has been super slow when compared to windows 10 (mainly because Microsoft isn’t just giving it away.

One reason to have a MS account is that your keys become linked to that account. When you upgrade your computer, you can simply access that account and let MS know that you have upgraded.

My systems are old; they ran XP, 7 and now 10. No TPM available for Phenom II processors w/DDR2 memory. Thinking Ryzen 5600X, new motherboard, memory and SSD would be a nice upgrade however the next generation is going to need a new motherboard. Graphics cards are still overpriced so I'll stick with the RX580.

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just bought a new laptop.

not a big difference of 10 to 11 in what most of us do.

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