Did this ninja say Goff over Brees?

Homie must have used Everclear to baste his ****ing turkey.

Really?

Goff has 3,547 yards, 26 TD, 6 INT and a 67.7 Comp % and his team is 10-1.

Brees has the Comp % going for him and less turnovers but he's a ways behind Goff and Mahomes in yards and Goff is right there with him in TDs.

No. Mahomes has far more touchdowns and yards than Goff. 39TD to 27TD. Turnovers are about equal.

Goff isn’t in the running until he ups his touchdown numbers

You just can’t ignore Mahomes’ 37 TD, 10 INT, 67.5% completion, 3,628 yards, and 2 rushing TD

It's me thinking Goff deserves to be more in the running than Brees. I don't think either are close enough to Mahomes, I stated that. You gotta read man. Read.

houstonwhodat is that you?

This season so far I think the MVP is

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I'll give it to Brees unless Mahomes tears it out of his paws in a SB victory. Mahomes still deserves a nod at the award but Brees will be playing and winning a SB this year....Mahomes???

He won't. John Randle did what Donald is doing for a decade straight and he never got it.

What I hate is that every talking head that supports Brees as MVP talks about how he has never won an MVP and they use that fact as one of the deciding factors in believing he should be the MVP.

It's not a damn lifetime achievement award, and a player missing out in past seasons should have absolutely zero impact on who wins it this year.

And this may sound controversial, and I don't mean it to be, but I personally feel like if one of the young white quarterbacks was having the same statistical season that Mahomes is having, people would not be advocating so much for Brees.

I know that other black QBs have won MVP, but if Mayfield or Wentz had Mahomes' stat line and their teams were 9-2, I think the narrative would change. Right now the narrative is that wow, Mahomes is having an amazing, record breaking season, but it's just too bad for him because Drew Brees is playing great again and he since he has never been named MVP in the past, he will finally get the MVP he has deserved for so long.

But if it was Mayfield or Wentz the narrative would be that wow, Brees is playing unbelievable football, it's just unfortunate that he would be having a career season at the same time that Mayfield (or Carson) is making a push to set the passing TD record in his first season as a starting QB.

This season I would take a Super Bowl win, or even just a Super Bowl appearance, over Mahomes being named MVP in a heartbeat. But I also hate the idea of the MVP award being decided based on what a player has done in prior seasons.

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Meh. I know race plays a large role in the way people perceive things, but I'm not getting that kind of vibe with the Mahomes vs Brees debate.

This is the fourth time the Saints have won a game this year with Brees throwing for less than 250 yards.

Must be nice to lean on that defense and running game when you have that "not-so-valuable" feeling.

What about all those 7-9 years he was overlooked as the MVP of the league tho?!?!?!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamel...580/drew-brees

loved his game against the Giants 18-32 for 217 yards and zero td/int

Others were just more deserving.

Boo hoo.

#1 criteria for winning MVP: Make the playoffs.

If you don’t qualify, you are no MVP

7-9 4 out of the last 6 years is quite a feat though, comparable to whom throughout history?

Great QB's don't have to make the passing game the only game. Would you knock Mahomes for the same stats in a game,

Go squeeze your Ketchup bottle...ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Brees lit the Vikings up earlier this year 18-23 for 120 yards 1 td/1 int.

I’d love it if Mahomes could throw for 170 yards and the Chiefs could still win by 14.

But that’s not possible. Mahomes has to put up big numbers every game otherwise KC loses

Yep.:thumb: Throw in Randy White as well.

Skip Bayless is obsessed with Mahomes

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How does that make him (Mahomes) better (go ahead... flame me)

Brees is better than Mahomes, always was

But Mahomes deserves MVP over Brees because he puts up better numbers. Mahomes is required to do more.

Lol. Like two weeks ago Bayless was crowing that Tom Brady should be the MVP of the league.

His only goal is to stir shit. I don't even think the man knows what the **** he even believes anymore.

Our quarterback has 1000 more yards and 20 more touchdowns than Brady

Let that sink in for a moment ROFL

I listen to his brother ****Skip

That's the talking point only because he's 39 years old, and not that he doesn't deserve it this year.

Simple fact is that if the season ends right now, the Saints finished with a better record and Brees had a better year. This would be the exact same situation we saw play out in 2011 with Aaron Rodgers finishing with the best passer rating in NFL history while Brees also had a historically great season including more TDs, a better completion %, and way more passing yards than Rodgers. But his team was 13-3 vs Rodgers's 15-1, and Rodgers had a better passer rating.

Brees won offensive player of the year, while Mahomes would likely win it this year with Brees winning MVP.

That being said, people need to stop moving goalposts on this award. Brees should have won in 2009. #1 seed, more TDs, better completion %, fewer INTs, and much better passer rating than Peyton, but Peyton still won it because people thought the Saints were going to be one and done in the playoffs.

If Brees wins, his critics will say he only won because it's a lifetime achievement award, which is complete BS. Mahomes is having an all time great season, but Brees is having the most efficient season ever for a QB to this point. Plus his team has the best record.

The stats everyone keeps spouting off as reasons why he should win are pretty pointless. Id much rather have the QB with more TDs and yards over the QB with the high completion rate and lack of interceptions. Mahomes has nearly 500 more yards than Brees and Brees has completed more passes than Mahomes and is still not even close in yards or TDs. So how is that more valuable?

Peyton won in 2009 cuz he had more yards, 1 less td and he had 7 game winning drives. He definitely deserved it over Brees.

2011 I could see going either way. Brees had only 1 more td pass, but 8 more INTs. Brees had alot more yards, but he also threw the ball 155 more times than Rodgers. Honestly I could see it going either way.

Thing driving me nuts is people bringing up the turnovers on MNF this week. Because an entire season of work will come down to the one game that had multiple turnovers yet you only lost by 3 points while scoring 44 on offense.

He couldn't do anything about the strip sack fumbles because that should really fall on the line for getting him crushed. One INT was hit in the air on release.

The 2 strip/sacks were both tip your cap to Donald, Mahomes had no chance. The last turnover was basically a hail mary with 15 secs left in the game from our own 25. The 2nd to last interception he got hit as he threw.

Yeah, hail marys suck for stats. Its literally a throw away pass. But they get credit if its a TD so they have to get stuck with the INT too.

But I swear if I hear another person bring up turnovers from that game. JFC

It's just easier for the Media to lump him into the "it's Brett Favre all over again" narrative.

The league doesn't want to give this award to a n00b, just like it didn't want its LA investment team getting its ass kicked in prime time.

I got a real kick out of ESPN posting on facebook that "The Rams ran the Chiefs out of LA" Such horseshit.

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Yeah right. Let's see who wins this match up with no league agendas and honest ref work.

I don't blame him from the strip sacks. I think the no look, flat footed attempt was a bad and lazy play but thats not intercepted 99 times out of 100. Just a fluky play that the ball bounces like that. The INT that his arm hit was a bad playcall and Mahomes waited too long (possibly due to pressure). He should have thrown it away or ran it at that point. The hail marry attempt he didn't get set which is why it was underthrown. He probably felt pressure after escaping the initial pressure. If he gets set he probably throws that to the endzone.


Most of his INT's have been garbage INTs that had no impact on the game due to lead or throwing a hail marry type of pass. He's also faced some really bad luck. (Lineman into that bounced off the helmet of Swartz, hit arm, Hill stopping his route on a deep pass to end the half at cleveland, 2 meaningless INT's against the Jags (one was a phenomenal defensive play). Only the NE INTs bother me and 2 from the Rams.

I love Mahomes as much as anyone but he isn't above criticism. That INT on the screen was absolutely horrible. Doubt it happens again but that was really bad.

The strip sacks, overall not his fault but he could protect the ball a little better when scrambling.

What's good is he is young and he will learn and continue to get better which is scary for the rest of the NFL.

Mods? Virulent racism?

It wasn't a screen it was an RPO. Harris was open and in Mahomes words-he babied it instead of firing it in there like he had all game. The ball was batted, hung up and may have bounced a few times off of Swartz. I'm not excusing it at all but it's not an int 99 times out of a 100. It took some great bounces and a great individual play to intercept that ball.

He protected the ball fine. He had the ball up to begin his throwing motion and then pulled it back down...both happened in the pocket.

PFF on the MVP race.

https://youtu.be/KlZrOYRYosg

Your issue is 'race' so be accurate - Mahomes is not 'black'. His mother was Caucasian (that means white to you Donk posters). Children of different racial parentage have a mixed racial genetic profile. It's not that complex at all.

So Obama wasn't black either, right?ROFLROFL. History will always call him the first black US President

Despite his Caucasian mother.

Tiger Woods tried to call himself a caublanasian. NOPE. didn't work....lol

Did you consider rod Woodson to be white?

My point is, there are "some" that won't give him his due because of being black. I don't care, just win the ****ing SB.

There will be some blacks that will hate on him because he doesn't talk hood enough or had both parents or is fair skinned, etc. I just wanna win, IDGAF if it was a ****ing Martian throwing darts.

Revel in your media educational delinquincy all you want. You are wrong. Your deductions are still wrong and woeful stupid.

Rofls not needed to show your ignorance.

Where am I wrong? Is he not called a "black" president?

Delinquincy? Learn to spell before talking shit. Lol

No, just be entertaining. SB would be great but this is the NFL and it it is entertainment. Real life still goes on, babies born and people passing.

F those that embrace the 'race' life restriction.

Apologies for the IMHO.

38ysfan

Don't you understand the Warren rule...

It'll be a god damn crime after Mahomes throws for 50 TDs, 5000 yards, and ~70% completion rate and doesn't win MVP, because Brees completes a ton of swing passes and the voters feel sorry for him.

Of course it is and would be. It's unfortunate that Brees popped-off this year, pure dumb luck. And the LA project on top of that.

We're just going to have to face facts that as far as this season goes, the NFL ain't giving up that pussy to the other small market Midwest team with the killer QB. You don't even have to put forth much of an effort reading the tea leaves to see it. Sucks.

We're not going to get ours until the old guard either retires, or we ****ing obliterate them.

Never let it be said that a race issue can never be injected into any discussion.

You mouth breather, when he said race, he meant MVP race you dumb ****.

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Saints Defense is playing well and moving up in the stats. Brees threw for 171 yards yesterday and won. He's not as valuable to the team as Mahomes who has the worst defense in history and even scored 40 and 51 in losses.

Mahomes for MVP.

Everyone is all in his ass because he's doing what Alex Smith is famous for, high completion % and lack of ints. Big ****ing deal.

Brees for MVP.

Makes for a better Superbowl matchup. The highly accomplished, record - breaking veteran tries to add a Superbowl to his MVP season against the future face of elite quarterback play in the NFL, Patrick Mahomes.

I like that noise.

Can you get the list of SB officials so we can fund their children's college funds before the game?

Meh, I don't think it really matters if he wins MVP or not, I think 90% plus of players in the NFL would say they would fear Mahomes much more than Brees today.

If Drew wins the award it would be more of a lifetime achievement plus he has had a great year but in the end we have the best player.

Heck maybe it knocks a few hundred k off his contract when it comes time to pay him. I could care less if he wins or comes in 5th, we have the best player and I wouldn't trade him for anyone in the league, period.

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You're a really ****ing awful poster. I don't know if anybody has ever told you that, but it's true.

NFL is weeping; can not put NO and LAR in the same Super Bowl.

Very true

Well that's an interesting turn of events.

So ****ing true

Most of us don't see his posts anymore. Thanks for quoting him though, dick.

Simms and Lefkoe are having a field day with how the media is pushing to give this to Brees and it won't go away when he doesn't deserve it.

Look, I like Drew Brees, but if he never got MVP, I'd say it's because he never was at any point in time during his career, the MVP of the league. Sorry Drew.

#NotMyMVP -Brees

Yeah after tonight I don’t want to hear that Patrick Mahomes isn’t the MVP. Nobody touches him this year and if anyone has a shot it’s Jared Goff.

YES

When Mahomes fills the stat sheet again this weekend, the tide is going to shift to him quickly.

It’s gonna be great seeing all the talking heads flip

ROFL

Brees choked

“Great QB never throw game losing interceptions!”

Choke on those narratives!!

Needed a game like that to put Mahomes back ahead in MVP talks
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They will start talking up Andrew Luck. Guaranteed