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Hoover 03-23-2018 11:27 AM

I'm getting nervous about the Chiefs pick... Could end up being VERY unpopular.

RealSNR 03-23-2018 12:43 PM

Board... kinda?? worked out for the Packers, I guess? Packers have just gotta draft a billion corners this draft. There's no other way around it. They splurged when Ridley was there, so now they have to be responsible. They get a guy who will help fill out their secondary depth.

The Green Bay Packers select Donte Jackson, CB, LSU

RealSNR 03-23-2018 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 13484183)
With the 42nd pick in the 2018 CP NFL Mock Draft, the Miami Dolphins select, RB Rashaad Penny - San Diego St.

You ****ing suck at life.

Format your pick the correct way or get AIDS

Sfeihc 03-23-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13484950)
You ****ing suck at life.

Format your pick the correct way or get AIDS

Here is an example CoMo,

The CoMo Clitori select RealSNR, S, ChiefsPlanet St. U.

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TambaBerry 03-23-2018 01:11 PM

The Cincinnati Bengals Select Maurice Hurst, DT Michigan

The Franchise 03-23-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13484768)
I'm getting nervous about the Chiefs pick... Could end up being VERY unpopular.

If you take Nick Chubb.....I’m banning you from the thread.

Hoover 03-23-2018 01:25 PM

Its not Nick Chubb or any RB or WR

Mother****erJones 03-23-2018 01:49 PM

How did Guice last til 44? Damn

TambaBerry 03-23-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13485081)
How did Guice last til 44? Damn

I think most people in this draft don't value running backs with first round picks. I definitely don't

staylor26 03-23-2018 02:17 PM

Seeing this play out makes me feel a lot better about the Chiefs getting one of my the guys on my “short list” at 54.

All of the corners and all but one of the safeties are gone and there’s still quite a few guys I’d be happy with.

The Franchise 03-23-2018 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13485081)
How did Guice last til 44? Damn

Don't know but I'll take it.

Hoover 03-23-2018 02:46 PM

This place over values DBs, LBs, and Edge rushers. I think a lot will go, but not quite as many.

BossChief 03-23-2018 02:56 PM

The Cardinals OL is in bad shape across the board, even after signing Pugh. I know some will call this Iowa homeridm, but I don’t really mind that. The kid can be a 10 year starter at center or guard and can play right away. Imo he will be a late first, early second round pick in the draft...

The Arizona Cardinals select James Daniels, C, Iowa

BossChief 03-23-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13485205)
This place over values DBs, LBs, and Edge rushers. I think a lot will go, but not quite as many.

Well, anytime you can get guys in the draft for pennies that cost TONS of money on second contracts (QBs, pass rushers, CBs, WRs) it’s smart to try to fill those spots with draft picks to give your team money on other positions.

Hoover 03-23-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13485227)
Well, anytime you can get guys in the draft for pennies that cost TONS of money on second contracts (QBs, pass rushers, CBs, WRs) it’s smart to try to fill those spots with draft picks to give your team money on other positions.

Agree. I just think we over do it a bit.


And thank you for taking Daniels. If he's there at 54 what would the Chiefs do?

CoMoChief 03-23-2018 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13484950)
You ****ing suck at life.

Format your pick the correct way or get AIDS

:deevee:

kccrow 03-23-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13485022)
Its not Nick Chubb or any RB or WR

I know who the two of them are and I can't believe at least one isn't off the board already. ;)

BossChief 03-23-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13485327)
Agree. I just think we over do it a bit.


And thank you for taking Daniels. If he's there at 54 what would the Chiefs do?

If he’s on the board at 54, he would be wise useage of that spot.

He would immediately fill LG/C with a quality player.

chiefscafan 03-23-2018 07:25 PM

It's not me it's direkshun

Who has chargers

Sent pm to him

Direckshun 03-23-2018 10:31 PM

The LA Chargers select Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State.

Sfeihc 03-24-2018 03:28 AM

The Indianapolis Colts select Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, WMU.

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ChiefAshhole1056 03-24-2018 10:13 AM

The Dallas Cowboys select Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State

TambaBerry 03-24-2018 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056 (Post 13486411)
The Dallas Cowboys select Isaiah Wynn, OL, Georgia

Already picked

ChiefAshhole1056 03-24-2018 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13486423)
Already picked

Yeah my bad. That’s my one strike

TambaBerry 03-24-2018 02:57 PM

. The Detroit lions select Sony Michel, RB, Georgia

pugsnotdrugs19 03-24-2018 03:06 PM

Baltimore wants to give Joe Flacco another big weapon to throw the ball to in the intermediate to down field range. Benjamin Watson is set to depart via FA and Flacco loves to target the tight end.

The Baltimore Ravens select Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State

chiefscafan 03-24-2018 10:28 PM

Curious to see who Hoover selects for Chiefs

Hoover 03-24-2018 11:22 PM

I'm ready to go, just waiting on RealSNR....

I'm prepared to get blasted for all of my picks.

Kyle DeLexus 03-25-2018 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13487745)
I'm ready to go, just waiting on RealSNR....

I'm prepared to get blasted for all of my picks.

And I'm ready to boo

RealSNR 03-25-2018 08:38 AM

Big slow dumbass. Might not be smart enough to make the transition to the right side, but at the very least, he'd face the less talented pass rushers. Gotta pull the trigger on guys like this on occasion.

The Buffalo Bills select Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma

TambaBerry 03-25-2018 08:43 AM

It's time to hate on Hoover, do not **** this up

Chief Roundup 03-25-2018 09:01 AM

There are still several good defenders left. Which one does Hoover draft?

Hoover 03-25-2018 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13487980)
There are still several good defenders left. Which one does Hoover draft?

If I had to guess the one everyone will hate.

Hoover 03-25-2018 09:10 AM

With the 54th pick in the NFL Draft,

The Kansas City Chiefs select Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia


You want to cover up a weakened secondary, you better be able to rush the passer. This was the number one issue with the 2017 defensive unit, and lets be honest, had we had a pass rush, I think that team plays in the AFC Championship game. Houston is aging and needs a strong complimentary player opposite of him. Ford is in his final year and coming off injury, who knows if he will be ready. Tanoh Kpassagnon is a promising project, but we don’t really know what we have in him. I can't take another year of Frank Zombo at OLB.

You add a guy like Carter to the Chiefs LB unit and suddenly the future looks bright again at the position with guys like Houston and Ford (if healthy) backed up by a young explosive guys like Carter and Kpassagnon. Pass rushers are important, and by picking Carter maybe Zombo can be the backup he is intended to be.

What do the Chiefs love? Speed. Now we have some on Defense.

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I’m actually a bit nervous to be drafting for the Chiefs. Not having a first round pick makes it all the more difficult to get the pick right in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I’m not one to draft players with an eye to the 2018 depth chart, as draft picks to me are more positional investments. The Chiefs have holes, and a lot of them on the defensive side of the ball. Still, I think one has to be wise with each pick and also take into consideration the investment the team has at a particular position.

Can someone please PM the next guy, I'm headed to church.

chiefscafan 03-25-2018 09:12 AM

Lot of great talent still there for chiefs

pugsnotdrugs19 03-25-2018 09:17 AM

I wouldn't complain with that.

RunKC 03-25-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13488022)
I wouldn't complain with that.

I would. The kid would be the 4th OLB on the depth chart behind Houston, Ford and Tanoh so he probably would have a redshirt year which would piss me off.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-25-2018 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13488065)
I would. The kid would be the 4th OLB on the depth chart behind Houston, Ford and Tanoh so he probably would have a redshirt year which would piss me off.

Yeah I get that but if they do take him it means they already know that KPass isn’t a long term answer or they may move him back inside.

Overall point is I don’t see them taking an OLB that early anyways but if they do, it’s going to be because they don’t have confidence in who is there currently.

RunKC 03-25-2018 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13488082)
Yeah I get that but if they do take him it means they already know that KPass isn’t a long term answer or they may move him back inside.

Overall point is I don’t see them taking an OLB that early anyways but if they do, it’s going to be because they don’t have confidence in who is there currently.

Andy just said one month ago that Tanoh will play OLB on base downs. If they give up on him this early, when this kid had no real chance to prove himself, it would be a goddamned disaster for Veach and Andy.

RealSNR 03-25-2018 09:51 AM

Can we all just agree how ****ing shitty of a pick Tanoh was?

**** Dorsey and his SPARQ score bullshit.

Get some football players who know how to play the position so we can properly evaluate them from one year to the next. And if you DO draft lottery ticket-types like KPass or Ford, DON'T ****ING DRAFT THEM IN THE 1ST, 2ND, OR 3RD ROUND.

****.

staylor26 03-25-2018 10:00 AM

I knew it would be Carter. Great pick :clap:

staylor26 03-25-2018 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13488112)
Can we all just agree how ****ing shitty of a pick Tanoh was?

**** Dorsey and his SPARQ score bullshit.

Get some football players who know how to play the position so we can properly evaluate them from one year to the next. And if you DO draft lottery ticket-types like KPass or Ford, DON'T ****ING DRAFT THEM IN THE 1ST, 2ND, OR 3RD ROUND.

****.

Dude, you’re giving up on Tanoh way too soon. He can bend the edge with all that that size and he got much better from the preseason to his week 17 start. He’s going to be a good player.

RealSNR 03-25-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13488133)
Dude, you’re giving up on Tanoh way too soon. He can bend the edge with all that that size and he got much better from the preseason to his week 17 start. He’s going to be a good player.

I hope he turns out. He ****ing better.

That's the problem with taking guys like him, though. You never know where you're at from one season to the next. Coaches don't know if they can plug him in. They might have a pretty good idea, but it's an uncertainty. They constantly have to be aware of possibilities where the guy just isn't ready. They have to find Plan Bs.

staylor26 03-25-2018 10:14 AM

For the record, Carter would probably have been #2 on my list here, but I would be happy with this.

People are way too concerned with what position we take and where. As long as it’s defense, I’m good. There’s nothing wrong with adding pass rushers to a team that has had to rely on Frank ****ing Zombo way too ****ing much.

We have 2 picks in the 3rd and 2 in the 4th to either use or trade up. Take the best defensive player available (unless they feel they can get a starting LG) and then use those other picks to secure a CB, S, and DE.

The corners to target at 54 are all gone, as are all but one of the safeties (the guy I probably would’ve taken).

There were also a couple of DL I would’ve been happy with, but I’d prefer Carter.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2018 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13488065)
I would. The kid would be the 4th OLB on the depth chart behind Houston, Ford and Tanoh so he probably would have a redshirt year which would piss me off.

You are assuming that Ford will be healthy and stay healthy. You are assuming that Kpass will take the next step. You are assuming that we will not have an injury.

staylor26 03-25-2018 10:24 AM

Carter gives you so much flexibility at OLB. You don’t have to overpay for Ford if he has a career year. You can maybe get rid of Houston’s contract if him and Tanoh work out.

I like the idea of building the new defense around a front 7 with Jones, Ragland, Hitchens, Carter and KPass.

RunKC 03-25-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13488169)
You are assuming that Ford will be healthy and stay healthy. You are assuming that Kpass will take the next step. You are assuming that we will not have an injury.

I would prefer to take a DL first. We saw how this defense went to shit when Chris Jones got hurt in the playoffs. Need insurance there IMO.

RunKC 03-25-2018 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13488182)
Carter gives you so much flexibility at OLB. You don’t have to overpay for Ford if he has a career year. You can maybe get rid of Houston’s contract if him and Tanoh work out.

I like the idea of building the new defense around a front 7 with Jones, Ragland, Hitchens, Carter and KPass.

I like Carter. I would just be pissed that he would start off so far back on the depth chart and might not make an impact this year due to that.

Chief Roundup 03-25-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13488197)
I would prefer to take a DL first. We saw how this defense went to shit when Chris Jones got hurt in the playoffs. Need insurance there IMO.

Well maybe this is where we move up to get that player, whether that would be back into the 2cd or earlier 3rd to get another DL. With the signings we have made I would not be surprised if it were a DB instead of a DL though.

staylor26 03-25-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13488197)
I would prefer to take a DL first. We saw how this defense went to shit when Chris Jones got hurt in the playoffs. Need insurance there IMO.

If they intend on moving Tanoh inside on passing downs he could have plenty of opportunities to produce as the 3rd OLB, and should Ford/Houston/Tanoh get injured he’d possibly be a big contributor.

We have a lot of flexibility with two picks in each of the next two rounds to make sure we get a couple DB’s and a DL.

Hoover 03-25-2018 12:42 PM

I thought that value was with the OLB position, but I understand why other would have went with a different defensize position. Before the draft began in my head I figured I would be drafting a saftey. I just thought you could find a first round talent that could start day one. So while I liked that concept, I thought differently with how the draft feel to me.

Other thoughts.

1. Drafting Carter doesn't mean anything about KPass. It has more to do with Ford and Houston. I think Sutton can find ways to utilize KPass in passing downs that would allow the Chiefs to have Houston, Carter, and KPass all on the field.

2. Carter is more of a OLB than KPass. KPass can rush the passer, but not sure he will ever be a guy that's capable for defending the pass as an everydown linebacker. Again, that doesn't mean there isn't a role for him on the defense.

3. I don't care if you draft a saftey, CB, LB, or DL, I doubt any of them make the starting lineup on the Chiefs depth chart.

4. Last but not least, I think the second round is full of risk/reward. Carter has all the potential in the world. He could end up being the best player in the draft. I dodn't feel that way about the DBs and Dlinemen on the board.

Chargem 03-25-2018 01:08 PM

The first tight end came off the board at 52?

CoMoChief 03-25-2018 01:34 PM

I would LOVE it if KC drafted Lorenzo Carter.

Mother****erJones 03-25-2018 02:19 PM

Sorry guys phone crashed and was dealing with that. Give me a few because I have my pick just need to double check that he’s not been taken

Mother****erJones 03-25-2018 02:21 PM

With the second round pick the Carolina Panthers select James Washington WR Oklahoma St.

I think the panthers would be elated to add two impact players at those spots. Gives Cam another good young weapon.

RealSNR 03-25-2018 03:00 PM

Torn between two players. Decided to go with offense over defense.

The Buffalo Bills select Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State

Hoover 03-25-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13488621)
Torn between two players. Decided to go with offense over defense.

The Buffalo Bills select Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State

For teams that need to draft offense, there are not nice buys in round 2.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-25-2018 05:28 PM

The Tennessee Titans select Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford

Marco Polo 03-25-2018 06:10 PM

The Atlanta Falcons select Braden Smith, G, Auburn.

PM sent.

The Franchise 03-25-2018 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 13489035)
The Atlanta Falcons select Braden Smith, G, Auburn.

I honestly would be ok if he was the pick at #54.

RealSNR 03-25-2018 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13488787)
For teams that need to draft offense, there are not nice buys in round 2.

Gesicki is a nice buy in Round 2.

He's got Kelce-like potential. Such a smooth receiver. Just not a very good blocker. At all.

But teams are proving more and more that if your TE is an elite receiver, you can more than deal with that and hope he gets better at blocking as the years go on.

He was honestly the best player available for the Bills. I'll take it.

Hoover 03-25-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13489040)
I honestly would be ok if he was the pick at #54.

I was watching interior line. But frankly it would have been easier to take someone like James Daniels at center than a true guard.

staylor26 03-25-2018 06:58 PM

Lol 4 of my short list of 5 just went one after another.

The San Francisco 49ers select Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia

After losing Hyde to the Browns, the 49ers are without a starting RB. Chubb gives them a guy that they can plug in and get 1,000+ yards year one. I was hoping for Washington here, but I have a WR I really like that I think I can get with one of our 3rds.

Titty Meat 03-25-2018 11:33 PM

Steelers badly need a tight end select Hayden Hurst TE South Carolina

staylor26 03-26-2018 05:45 AM

JFC billay now I have to reach

The Jacksonville Jaguars select Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma

After QB, TE is easily the Jaguars #1 need, so I have to reach a little to insure that I secure the last TE I have with a day 2 grade.

Sfeihc 03-26-2018 08:28 AM

The Minnesota Vikings select Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech.

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kccrow 03-26-2018 09:16 AM

With the 63rd selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Rasheem Green, DE, USC

Adding some juice to the Pats' anemic pass rush. PMing myself...

Sfeihc 03-26-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13489512)
JFC billay now I have to reach

The Jacksonville Jaguars select Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma

After QB, TE is easily the Jaguars #1 need, so I have to reach a little to insure that I secure the last TE I have with a day 2 grade.

Thank you for reaching.

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Marco Polo 03-26-2018 09:21 AM

Can someone edit the original post so we can get the third and fourth rounds on there?

The Franchise 03-26-2018 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 13489721)
Can someone edit the original post so we can get the third and fourth rounds on there?

I'm working on it. Calm down.

The Franchise 03-26-2018 09:31 AM

3rd round is up. If you don't see a trade reflected on there or something is messed up.....let me know. That also means that the 3rd round will not change if picks change hands.

staylor26 03-26-2018 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 13489717)
Thank you for reaching.

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It’s technically only a reach if you have a chance at getting them with your next pick. No way that was going to happen.

The Jags don’t have many holes outside of QB and TE, so they can afford that luxury.

kccrow 03-26-2018 09:40 AM

With the 64th selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jessie Bates III, FS, Wake Forest.

The Browns traded for Demarious Randall to help with the Browns mess at safety, but he's on a 1-year deal. Add in the fact that having too many guys that can cover isn't a bad thing, and Bates is a perfect fit.

RealSNR 03-26-2018 10:39 AM

Thanks, Pest.

Pick for the Bills incoming as soon as I can get to my computer and look at my rankings

O.city 03-26-2018 10:45 AM

What the ****, Philly only has 1 pick in the first 3 rounds?

RealSNR 03-26-2018 10:50 AM

After ousting Sammy Watkins, the Bills have decided they still like Clemson WRs for some reason. This is the best WR on their board, and they value that more than going for the CB and OL they also had highly ranked in this spot.

The Buffalo Bills select Deon Cain, WR, Clemson

RealSNR 03-26-2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13489715)
With the 63rd selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select Rasheem Green, DE, USC

Adding some juice to the Pats' anemic pass rush. PMing myself...

And may you get an uncomfortable bout of diarrhea for stealing my pick! :cuss:

RealSNR 03-26-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13489852)
What the ****, Philly only has 1 pick in the first 3 rounds?

Well, yeah. They're not going to need that many picks when they end up signing Sheldon Richardson

The Franchise 03-26-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13489852)
What the ****, Philly only has 1 pick in the first 3 rounds?

I gave you the team with the least amount of picks because you said you were busy.

O.city 03-26-2018 11:31 AM

It's fine. It's fine.


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