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Mr_Tomahawk 04-20-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16910420)
Seems like the Chiefs do okay with it.

And they practice daily on a synthetic surface.

chiefzilla1501 04-20-2023 03:30 PM

There also needs to be consequences for rolling out shitty grass fields. Asm global maintains the turf for both Arizona and Chicago and it’s more than a little interesting that the chiefs played on 3 of the shittiest fields imaginable (2x in Arizona, once in Chicago preseason) from the same provider

Hound333 04-20-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16910180)
Yep. It's much, much cheaper to maintain. And let's face it, HS players getting injured isn't top of mind for most people.

The NFL, and the global stage it occupies, is a whole different ballgame. They can't afford to have their stars sidelined every year due to injuries.

I think the cost is close to the same according to the buildings and grounds people at the HS I work for. The main reason I don't see them going away from HS is that when its grass, you can't use the field except for the 4-5 home games a year. They wouldn't even let the middle school use the field for games. Had to look good on Friday or the public would email complaints all Fall.

Now its used pretty much everyday.

Chief Pagan 04-20-2023 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16910388)
Raiders have real grass, they roll it outside for sunlight.

A new indoor stadium can be built for a roll out field.

But existing indoor stadiums won't have that option.

And I wonder if roll out fields work as well in cold climates?

Megatron96 04-20-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16910512)
A new indoor stadium can be built for a roll out field.

But existing indoor stadiums won't have that option.

And I wonder if roll out fields work as well in cold climates?

Meh, pretty sure you can drive a car/truck/ambulance into every stadium in the league, so you can wheel in pallets of sod or however they divide up the field for transport.

displacedinMN 04-20-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hound333 (Post 16910489)
I think the cost is close to the same according to the buildings and grounds people at the HS I work for. The main reason I don't see them going away from HS is that when its grass, you can't use the field except for the 4-5 home games a year. They wouldn't even let the middle school use the field for games. Had to look good on Friday or the public would email complaints all Fall.

Now its used pretty much everyday.

I was told-the cost to water, maintain, fertilize, mow, cover....is about the same as turf.

Plus, one football game on a wet field ruins grass for the other teams and the rest of the season. Only need one field for soccer, lacrosse, all JV and Varsity sports.

Rain Man 04-20-2023 05:44 PM

I'm surprised that grass isn't related to more injuries since Nick Bolton and Willie Gay play most of their games on grass.

notorious 04-20-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 16910418)
Many injuries on synthetic turf fields are a result of the field crews adding too much infill resulting in a soft field. Soft fields lead to lower body injuries. This is what was happening 5 or so years ago in New England when like 5 players blew out their knees on one of their practice fields. It was later found their practice field had a shock pad AND crumb rubber which results in a spongy field.

As mentioned, the crumb rubber is being replace with organic infills which in turn require a shock pad to meet HIC requirements.

New England used both...because they didnt know what they were doing.

Whoa.

You'd figure that softer would be a little better, but yikes.

Bump 04-20-2023 05:59 PM

if the NFL cared like they claim to, they would force proper fields and ban this shit that players get injured on way more often. They are a mega billion dollar business, there's no excuse.

Titty Meat 04-20-2023 06:01 PM

The NFL's solution?


More Thursday night games!

Raiderhater 04-20-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16910127)
And what do you do about indoor stadiums?

Ban those too. Play the game outside like it is supposed to be played.

kccrow 04-20-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16910125)
So is this because the surface is harder when a player lands on it?

Or because the surface provides a better grip for footwear and instead of the foot losing grip a knee blows out?

Or both?

I've always wondered whether on indoor artificial turf fields if you restricted the sort of cleats players could wear, so that at some point their foot would slip instead of their knee blowing out, would that improve player safety?

Personal experience is that field turf is pretty close to landing on grass but the grip is better and that's not always a good thing. It also ****ing SUCKS ASS when it's hot. I played games on that shit when it was 90-95 and the 1 ft above the turf was reading 130-140 degrees. Shit is HOT. The little rubber granules get in your eyes and shit too and sting like a mother****er. Field turf is much more forgiving than straight-up astro turf though. That shit sucks. Nothing like playing on a rug stretched over concrete. You stick to that shit so bad and then the strawberries from rug burn is amazing good fun. Hate that shit with all that I am.

Jewish Rabbi 04-20-2023 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16910597)
Personal experience is that field turf is pretty close to landing on grass but the grip is better and that's not always a good thing. It also ****ing SUCKS ASS when it's hot. I played games on that shit when it was 90-95 and the 1 ft above the turf was reading 130-140 degrees. Shit is HOT. The little rubber granules get in your eyes and shit too and sting like a mother****er. Field turf is much more forgiving than straight-up astro turf though. That shit sucks. Nothing like playing on a rug stretched over concrete. You stick to that shit so bad and then the strawberries from rug burn is amazing good fun. Hate that shit with all that I am.

BRC Jr has just solved the issue with a personal anecdote, go ahead and lock this one up mods.

BleedingRed 04-20-2023 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16910618)
BRC Jr has just solved the issue with a personal anecdote, go ahead and lock this one up mods.

HAUL HIM AWAY

kccrow 04-20-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16910618)
BRC Jr has just solved the issue with a personal anecdote, go ahead and lock this one up mods.

Sucks being the clueless ****, doesn't it?

You have no way to contribute aside from making tasteless jokes nobody finds amusing except for the other reeruns on this board.

I won't miss you when I'm gone cupcake, you can take comfort in that.


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