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Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:35 AM

Sick as Mahomes season has been, I think it's Brees. 25/1 TD/INT ratio is better than 37/10. Would you trade 12 more TDs for 9 more picks? Yeah, didn't think so.

Plus he'll get the nostalgia vote, if Brees seriously has never won MVP. How that's possible I have no idea, but yeah, that will seal it. Everyone will say Mahomes is young and will have plenty more chances. It's not fair, but it's reality. All else being equal, it will be the tie breaker though I don't see it as equal right now. Still plenty of football left this season though.

Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13908132)
That wasn’t a gift. 1998 Broncos were stacked

There was cheating involved but they created (illegally) the bet team in football


I hate them, but I watched more than enough of them to know that those Broncos teams were sick. They were completely dominant for three years. I remember being damn glad the Jags somehow beat them in 1996 so the Patriots could play the Jags not the Broncos in the AFCCG. Terrell Davis turned a damn good team into a completely disgusting one.

Easy 6 11-21-2018 09:47 AM

My choice is clear, but barring a complete meltdown Brees will run away with it for sentimental reasons

O.city 11-21-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13908136)
Sick as Mahomes season has been, I think it's Brees. 25/1 TD/INT ratio is better than 37/10. Would you trade 12 more TDs for 9 more picks? Yeah, didn't think so.

Plus he'll get the nostalgia vote, if Brees seriously has never won MVP. How that's possible I have no idea, but yeah, that will seal it. Everyone will say Mahomes is young and will have plenty more chances. It's not fair, but it's reality. All else being equal, it will be the tie breaker though I don't see it as equal right now. Still plenty of football left this season though.

I mean, I get that, but even if every INT led to a TD, that's still plus 21 in total points.

Best22 11-21-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13908149)
I mean, I get that, but even if every INT led to a TD, that's still plus 21 in total points.

Factor in rushing touchdowns and fumbles (lost) and it becomes 39/12, 28/1.

Dead even at 27

carcosa 11-21-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13908136)
Sick as Mahomes season has been, I think it's Brees. 25/1 TD/INT ratio is better than 37/10. Would you trade 12 more TDs for 9 more picks? Yeah, didn't think so.

Plus he'll get the nostalgia vote, if Brees seriously has never won MVP. How that's possible I have no idea, but yeah, that will seal it. Everyone will say Mahomes is young and will have plenty more chances. It's not fair, but it's reality. All else being equal, it will be the tie breaker though I don't see it as equal right now. Still plenty of football left this season though.

**** off!!!!!!

Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13908149)
I mean, I get that, but even if every INT led to a TD, that's still plus 21 in total points.


Nah, it's not really close in my mind. I don't ever see a 4:3 TD to INT ratio being a good thing.

But hey, why declare now -- if Brees has just one or two bad games, it could quickly go from 25/1 to whatever, 34/7 by year end, and while that's a great year, it wouldn't compare really with, say, 52/14 or whatever Mahomes could realistically get to.

Amnorix 11-21-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13908158)
**** off!!!!!!


Why, n00b?

lcarus 11-21-2018 10:04 AM

Guy is on pace for 53 TDs and 5200 yards and might not get MVP. Thats crazy to me.

Mile High Mania 11-21-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 13908168)
Guy is on pace for 53 TDs and 5200 yards and might not get MVP. Thats crazy to me.

Yeah, it's going to get very interesting if PM is in that range...

Chiefnj2 11-21-2018 10:07 AM

Legit candidates;

Chiefs - Mahomes and Hill.
Rams - Gurley and Donald
Bears - Mack
Saints - Brees

carcosa 11-21-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 13908163)
Why, n00b?

Because you are Patriots scum and should **** off for eternity!!!!! Thank u

jaa1025 11-21-2018 10:13 AM

The gap was closing prior to the Rams game but Mahomes still had the lead IMO. After the Rams game, on national TV, Mahomes was having an MVP type of game until the final 2 drives. His arm was bumped and he threw an INT and then threw another INT on a poorly thrown ball (didn't get set...and probably a bad decision anyways).

He will probably need to play flawlessly from here and Brees needs to have a bad game or two for Mahomes to win it. The Saints still play the Steelers, Cowboys, and 2 games against Carolina that could be tough but none really have that good of defenses even in todays NFL.

In58men 11-21-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13908172)
Legit candidates;

Chiefs - Mahomes and Hill.
Rams - Gurley and Donald
Bears - Mack
Saints - Brees

Vikings- Danielle Hunter

He’s having a monster year and stays on the field unlike Mack. Gets overlooked because Mack and Donald are ESPNs favorites.

The Franchise 11-21-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13908172)
Legit candidates;

Chiefs - Mahomes and Hill.
Rams - Gurley and Donald
Bears - Mack
Saints - Brees

Sorry but Gurley, HIll, Donald and Mack don't have a chance at MVP. It will always be a QB's award as long as the stats are like they are.


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