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Eleazar 09-17-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13739949)
You’re a miserable idiot if you think otherwise.

Oh, no, I totally agree with you. Berry coming back will instantly make this bottom of the barrel defense into a Super Bowl caliber defense. No question in my mind at all.

Marcellus 09-17-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13739939)
It would be a huge help to have him back there, but if the pass rush isn't better than yesterday it'll only help so much. The DBs have to hold their coverages forever because we can't get to the QB.

The pass rush wasn't horrible yesterday they just couldn't finish the job which had a lot to do with Ben.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-17-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13739949)
You’re a miserable idiot if you think otherwise.

No kidding.

Clay posted this yesterday:

Top 10 scoring offenses in NFL history:

1. 2013 Broncos - 606 points
2. 2007 Patriots - 589 points
3. 2011 Packers - 560 points
4. 2012 Patriots - 557 points
5. 1998 Vikings - 556 points
6. 2011 Saints - 547 points
7. 2016 Falcons - 540 points
8. 2000 Rams - 540 points
9. 1999 Rams - 526 points
10. 2004 Colts - 522 points

Current Chiefs pace: 640 points

4 of these teams reached the Super Bowl, almost all of them reached their conference championship game. Now, maybe KC doesn't end up on that list, but would anyone really be surprised?

Defense can use all the help they can get and Berry is certainly part of that. He's still arguably our 2nd or 3rd most valuable player, and we've won two tough ass games without him..

Eleazar 09-17-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13739968)
The pass rush wasn't horrible yesterday

So far we have 2 sacks, which is tied for 28th in the league. But that's 2 sacks on 111 attempts.

The two teams we are tied with for 28th place in sacks, Oakland and LA, have faced 67 and 68 attempts respectively.

We've seen 3 or 4 games worth of dropbacks by opposing QBs so far, and have 2 sacks.

RunKC 09-17-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13739963)
You must have a strange definition for the word average.

That defense gave up 48 points to Romo and 39 to Luck that year.

They were just as bad as us.

Sassy Squatch 09-17-2018 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13739995)
That defense gave up 48 points to Romo and 39 to Luck that year.

They were just as bad as us.

Ok. So not average.

Marcellus 09-17-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13739993)
So far we have 2 sacks, which is tied for 28th in the league.

But that's 2 sacks on 111 attempts.

The two teams we are tied with for 28th place in sacks, Oakland and LA, have faced 67 and 68 attempts respectively.

I'm not saying we kick ass but how many times did Ben throw the ball with someone on him or his OL pushed back into him. It was nutz.

BTW Rivers and Ben are 2 of the least sacked QBs in football.

****ing refs stole a sack and TD too.

ToxSocks 09-17-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13739968)
The pass rush wasn't horrible yesterday they just couldn't finish the job which had a lot to do with Ben.

He had 60 pass attempts and they could only muster one sack. That's horrible.

I actually thought the DB's did a much better job this past week than last. The Steelers didn't have a lot of seperation. I thought ScabDick had a solid game.

But that pass rush didn't exist. Ben had way too long. Even the Jags secondary would get torched if they had to maintain for THAT long

Eleazar 09-17-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13740001)
I'm not saying we kick ass but how many times did Ben throw the ball with someone on him or his OL pushed back into him. It was nutz.

BTW Rivers and Ben are 2 of the least sacked QBs in football.

****ing refs stole a sack and TD too.

There's no way to spin getting 2 sacks on 111 attempts. It's horrendous.

I guess "someone was kinda close when he threw the ball" is going to be the new "punter setup"

CupidStunt 09-17-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13739968)
The pass rush wasn't horrible yesterday

Yes it was. Brutally horrible, in fact.

Seriously, why do some of you guys posts stuff like this? I'm really curious. Is it your delusional bias or do you actually... somehow... think this is true?

You could say the run D was fine (they didn't even pretend like they were ever interested in running the ball whatsoever), but their QB threw up 60 passes and we barely even SNIFFED him.

The Franchise 09-17-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13740005)
He had 60 pass attempts and they could only muster one sack. That's horrible.

I actually thought the DB's did a much better job this past week than last. The Steelers didn't have a lot of seperation. I thought ScabDick had a solid game.

But that pass rush didn't exist. Ben had way too long. Even the Jags secondary would get torched if they had to maintain for THAT long

Go back and look at the blatant ****ing holds that were happening. Yeah you have to beat the team and not worry about the refs....but the refs have ALWAYS allowed Pitt to do what they want.

Marcellus 09-17-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13740022)
There's no way to spin getting 2 sacks on 111 attempts. It's horrendous.

I guess "someone was kinda close when he threw the ball" is going to be the new "punter setup"

Jesus you crying little bitch all I said is it wasn't as bad as you want to make it out to be.

Marcellus 09-17-2018 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 13740029)
Yes it was. Brutally horrible, in fact.

Seriously, why do some of you guys posts stuff like this? I'm really curious. Is it your delusional bias or do you actually... somehow... think this is true?

You could say the run D was fine (they didn't even pretend like they were ever interested in running the ball whatsoever), but their QB threw up 60 passes and we barely even SNIFFED him.

I don't understand how people can say this. Ben got hit and threw the ball many times with guys hanging all over him.

Chris Jones had his damn jersey about yanked off of him several times as well.

Anyway carry on with yourselves.

ToxSocks 09-17-2018 10:05 AM

I just can't decide who im disappointed in more. Houston or Ford. At least Houston has the excuse of being double teamed nearly all the time. Ford is getting the 1v1 matchups and can't win. I thought he'd be a bit better in a contract year.

RunKC 09-17-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13740001)
I'm not saying we kick ass but how many times did Ben throw the ball with someone on him or his OL pushed back into him. It was nutz.

BTW Rivers and Ben are 2 of the least sacked QBs in football.

****ing refs stole a sack and TD too.

Houston was good yesterday but got jobbed by the refs. Mellinger and Teicher (yes even negative Teicher!) were in that stadium and both said they didn’t see a hold on Scandrick when Houston forced that fumble.

This shit pisses me off the most. This should not have been a TD. This is as blatant of a hold as I have ever seen in my life.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the Big Ben line of scrimmage play we were just talking about. But look at Justin Houston, rushing against the left tackle. The LOS call is really close, but the hold seems pretty clear. <a href="https://t.co/vbNUCI6oPa">pic.twitter.com/vbNUCI6oPa</a></p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1041680746405089280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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