Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13951769)

The Astros could actually use him.

But you're not gonna get much for him. Maybe if you're lucky you could 'pry' someone like Cionel Perez away. But it gets back to the same old shit with this team - you seriously don't have your own Cionel Perez somewhere in this system? Have you become so lazy and entitled that the idea of developing relief arms is suddenly beneath you?

I'd honestly punt on the LH reliever crap and see if the Mariners would trade us Vogelbach and a AA arm for him. Vogelbach sucks; less defensively capable than Martinez even. But at least he hits lefthanded with some power and will take a walk.

Look - if we don't trade for someone like Vogelbach, we'll sign Daniel !@#$ing Descalso and call him our bench lefty. Because that's just how unbelievably stupid this organization has become. So we might as well 'lose' a trade to fill a hole in the roster and prevent us from doing something even less intelligent.

If there's an intelligent decision to make, we won't be making it.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13951750)

middle inning, LOOGY pitchers cant be that valuable.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13951776)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SFGiants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SFGiants</a> have gotten a ton of calls on lefty Will Smith and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STLCards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STLCards</a> are among the most aggressive pursuers. Might be tough as Giants aren’t keen on losing him.</p>&mdash; Mark Saxon (@markasaxon) <a href="https://twitter.com/markasaxon/status/1072536510610726914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13951756)

I just read they are willing to trade 2 of their outfielders and Hill and Wood are available.

Send a couple OFers to Miami for Realmuto and get Harper. That would be gross.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13951775)

They could offer the Marlins their entire OF and it wouldn't get them Realmuto. The only guy they have out there that might be of interest to the Fish would be Verdugo and I'm still pretty sure that guy is fool's gold. I mean maybe Bellinger but I'm still pretty sure he's not an OFer despite their insistence on putting him out there.

"Positionless baseball" works in video games but they're not winning a championship with Cody Bellinger in CF.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13951781)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Watson’s another option for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/stlcards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#stlcards</a>, though Smith has more appeal to them, it seems. They’ve been looking at ways to turn Jose Martinez and his years of control into a lefty, and that’s drawn them into trade alternatives to free-agent lefties. <a href="https://t.co/wRZ3u2BGXp">https://t.co/wRZ3u2BGXp</a></p>&mdash; Derrick Goold (@dgoold) <a href="https://twitter.com/dgoold/status/1072540412122972165?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13951786)

I think the current rumor is that the Indians want Verdugo in the Kluber trade.

I'd love for the Dodgers to get Realmuto AND Harper....but I don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13951786)

I think the current rumor is that the Indians want Verdugo in the Kluber trade.

I'd love for the Dodgers to get Realmuto AND Harper....but I don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13951784)

"Aggressive" = "Pretty pretty please!!! Please take Jose Martinez for him!!!"

It's the same kind of 'aggressive' I get from my 4 year old when she wants to watch cartoons but didn't finish her dinner. The idea that I'm not on board with her suggestion is just a complete anathema and if I'd just listen to her wail long enough, surely I'll come around.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13951799)

Maybe you can educate me here - what the hell am I missing with Alex Verdugo? Why are the Dodgers so routinely adamant that they won't be moving him?

If you can give up Verdugo as the key piece for 3 years of Corey Kluber...what's the holdup?

Is it the sub-optimal power that does it for them? Or the middling speed and defense? The guy is an AB sponge that won't actually produce much. If everything goes right he's what, Nick Markakis? Do the walks really give them that much of a hard-on? He could just as easily be Robbie Grossman.

Every time the Dodgers end up in trade talks it's "We won't trade Alex Verdugo..."

Aight - suit yourself. Kershaw's not getting any younger.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13951802)

Sounds like the Yankees are going to be the team trading for Realmuto anyways. They must be pretty confident in signing Machado because they are talking about clearing out 3B by dealing Andujar along with needing a SS for at least 1 year.

I just dont understand why the Dodgers would look at 2 WS appearances and say we don't want to spend now.

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13951811)

The Dodgers are pissing off a lot of their fans right now with the "not spending now" talk.....right after the Time Warner TV deal.

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13951830)

If you are looking for just a LOOGY I'm not sure why you wouldn't just sign Xavier Cedeno that was non tendered by the Brewers.