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Just Passin' By 06-26-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13605937)
Even movies about Super Heroes, Dinosaurs and gigantic robots are somehow left wing political propaganda.

That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that?

ToxSocks 06-26-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 13606356)
That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that?

Can you identify the "Too much SJW" in JP Fallen Kingdom. My feeble mind is too indoctrinated to notice.

banecat 06-26-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13606376)
Can you identify the "Too much SJW" in JP Fallen Kingdom. My feeble mind is too indoctrinated to notice.

Recognition is the first step. Now figuring out how to resolve it is the next

vailpass 06-26-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13605937)
WTF is with you DC right wingers coming into movie threads and bringing your politics?

Every thread now has someone like you complaining about social justice warriors in movies. Even movies about Super Heroes, Dinosaurs and gigantic robots are somehow left wing political propaganda.

How about starting your own thread in DC about your political agenda? And we just talk movies in this forum.

Easy there mr. from-the-ghetto. Do you consider Variety to be a right leaning publication?
Here's a cut from their review:

...“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom” is a liberal pulp message movie, yet it treats itself with even more sobriety. The dinosaurs, it turns out, have been targeted by Mills to be sold off to the highest bidder — yes, it’s the first cautionary dinosaur-trafficking movie — and at certain points you may find yourself ticking off the themes. Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check. The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check. The need to protect endangered species? Check. The privatizing of military action? Check. The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.

I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity...
https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/


If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals.

vailpass 06-26-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 13606356)
That (too much SJW, not enough good movie) is a problem for movies, both in terms of quality and in terms of financial sustainability, and is a very important topic for media discussion. How do you not see that?

This. For Christ's sake it's everywhere. I realize it will pass just like every other fad but it is currently at ridiculous proportions.

ToxSocks 06-26-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check.

Globalized gilded classes are a conservative talking point. Ahem "Swamp rats", "Globalists", "George Soros"...any of that ring a bell?

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check.

Since when is genetic engineering a leftist issue? Uh, Stem Cell research says hello, which is conservatives are generally against considering you know...abortions. It's conservatives who generally bitch about man "playing god".

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
The need to protect endangered species? Check.

Well no shit, the movie's cast, as it's always been, is comprised of scientists who love dinosaurs. Them NOT feeling the need to protect them would be pretty 'effin out of character.

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
The privatizing of military action? Check.

A common, played out theme that has no political implications unless you're trying to drive a narrative.

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.

Not seeing the political left relationship here...

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity...
https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/[/I]

If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals.

Jesus. This guy needs to get laid. You can tell the author is a perpetual victim.

ToxSocks 06-26-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606506)
This. For Christ's sake it's everywhere. I realize it will pass just like every other fad but it is currently at ridiculous proportions.

Is it everywhere though?

Or has politics consumed you so much that you view everything through a red and blue lens? Because the shit posted from Vanity fair is a stretch, and the most political points are conservative talking points, not liberal. It's nonsense.

banecat 06-26-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13606644)
Is it everywhere though?

Or has politics consumed you so much that you view everything through a red and blue lens? Because the shit posted from Vanity fair is a stretch, and the most political points are conservative talking points, not liberal. It's nonsense.

It is. There's no escape anymore. Entertainment's supposed to entertain. If I wanted a sermon I'd go to church. That's why the right's pushing back so hard. They're beyond sick and tired of it. They're being as nice as they can be for now

BigRedChief 06-26-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13606194)
But it's relevant to the movie, no?

I just think you don't like what he has to say about it.

What a load of BS. Detox broke it down. Its the right wing seeing SJW everywhere in movies.


Does Hollywood slant liberal, of course. But, its been that way longer than you, me and our grandpa's have been alive. Thats nothing new. Taking umbrage when saw through the conservative bent is whats new.

ToxSocks 06-26-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13606660)
It is. There's no escape anymore. Entertainment's supposed to entertain. If I wanted a sermon I'd go to church. That's why the right's pushing back so hard. They're beyond sick and tired of it. They're being as nice as they can be for now

The right has fallen prey to the Fox News demagogue, much as the left has fallen into a CNN Trump hysteria trap.

I see a whole bunch of looking for something that isn't intended. Applying political implications to things that never intended to be political. That's the symptom of the disease known as politics. I think it's been a few weeks, maybe a month since i've last posted in D.C.

For a reason.

Are there movies that virtue signal? Of ****ing course. Has that ever NOT been the case? And is it politically motivated, or is it a reflection of our culture?

banecat 06-26-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13606683)
The right has fallen prey to the Fox News demagogue, much as the left has fallen into a CNN Trump hysteria trap.

I see a whole bunch of looking for something that isn't intended. Applying political implications to things that never intended to be political. That's the symptom of the disease known as politics. I think it's been a few weeks, maybe a month since i've last posted in D.C.

For a reason.

Are there movies that virtue signal? Of ****ing course. Has that ever NOT been the case? And is it a politically motivated, or is it a reflection of our culture?

See, and now you're going through DC withdrawals. Go and purge yourself in the DC. It's the only way

ToxSocks 06-26-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13606688)
See, and now you're going through DC withdrawals. Go and purge yourself in the DC. It's the only way

No thanks. Im doing my best to put that shit behind me.

vailpass 06-26-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13606691)
No thanks. Im doing my best to put that shit behind me.

In that case apologize for bringing this up in here and will now cease.

Just Passin' By 06-26-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13606675)
What a load of BS. Detox broke it down. Its the right wing seeing SJW everywhere in movies.


Does Hollywood slant liberal, of course. But, its been that way longer than you, me and our grandpa's have been alive. Thats nothing new. Taking umbrage when saw through the conservative bent is whats new.

You can't possibly be so ridiculous as to believe that nonsense.

O.city 06-26-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13606491)
Easy there mr. from-the-ghetto. Do you consider Variety to be a right leaning publication?
Here's a cut from their review:

...“Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom” is a liberal pulp message movie, yet it treats itself with even more sobriety. The dinosaurs, it turns out, have been targeted by Mills to be sold off to the highest bidder — yes, it’s the first cautionary dinosaur-trafficking movie — and at certain points you may find yourself ticking off the themes. Greed gone rampant among the globalized gilded class? Check. The sinister potential of genetic engineering? Check. The need to protect endangered species? Check. The privatizing of military action? Check. The eerie implications of cloning? Check. The danger of weaponized dinosaurs? Check.

I didn’t find any of this stuff especially “fun,” though the cast members certainly treat the political/genetic/social fodder as if it meant something. Chris Pratt tones down the dude factor and exudes a lean-and-mean sincerity...
https://variety.com/2018/film/review...tt-1202829194/


If you disagree with any of the points made feel free to enlighten us but don't cry about facts being pointed out just because it dims your virtue signals.

I would suspect you could go back and do similar breakdowns to a lot of older movies.

I think everyone is seeing what they want to or don't want to see.


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