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htismaqe 10-09-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13802259)
Yeah. This isn't about Scandrick being better than Peters. This is about Peters being non-compatible with the team and finding a suitable replacement.

Scandrick is doing OK. I wasn't as down on him when this place was readying the pitchforks and I'm not going to pretend that baiting Bortles is transferrable to big games.

Scandrick isn't a disaster. Amerson was.

:clap:

suzzer99 10-09-2018 11:53 AM

I'd like to see how many of those 42 solo tackles last year were him gently shoving a receiver out of bounds, or touching a down or already falling receiver. I'm gonna guess about 37. No way he made more than 1 actual solo tackle a game.

Titty Meat 10-09-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13802269)
Alex Smith was a better player than Rodgers last year.

These aren't career grades they are a snapshot in time.

No. No he wasn't.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2018 01:22 PM

Gotta give Scandrick credit. The athleticism is nowhere near what it was at his peak but he's a smart ballplayer that's where he's supposed to be far more often than not.

He's still prone to simply getting beat by physically superior athletes on occasion, but I don't see him going out there and whiffing on assignments. With some of the shaky zone responsibilities we've seen this year, having a guy out there that generally knows where needs to be at any given time is a pretty nice thing to have.

Veach deserves credit for eating a few bucks on Amerson and getting this guy in here.

Pitt Gorilla 10-09-2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13802509)
Gotta give Scandrick credit. The athleticism is nowhere near what it was at his peak but he's a smart ballplayer that's where he's supposed to be far more often than not.

He's still prone to simply getting beat by physically superior athletes on occasion, but I don't see him going out there and whiffing on assignments. With some of the shaky zone responsibilities we've seen this year, having a guy out there that generally knows where needs to be at any given time is a pretty nice thing to have.

Veach deserves credit for eating a few bucks on Amerson and getting this guy in here.

Agree and disagree. Veach gets credit for Scandrick. But, Veach was the guy who gave Amerson a contract that he in no way deserved. One shouldn't get credit for screwing up and then fixing it.

Sassy Squatch 10-09-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13802524)
Agree and disagree. Veach gets credit for Scandrick. But, Veach was the guy who gave Amerson a contract that he in no way deserved. One shouldn't get credit for screwing up and then fixing it.

We ended up paying 500k for Amerson. It wasn't that big of a deal.

htismaqe 10-09-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13802526)
We ended up paying 500k for Amerson. It wasn't that big of a deal.

The guy was one of the best CB's in the league a couple of years ago. They gave him just a little over league minimum see if he could return to that form.

He didn't and they cut him. It was a worthwhile move. For every David Amerson they cut there's a guy like Cam Erving that sticks.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13802524)
Agree and disagree. Veach gets credit for Scandrick. But, Veach was the guy who gave Amerson a contract that he in no way deserved. One shouldn't get credit for screwing up and then fixing it.

Amerson was a drop in the bucket; a flyer at best. Teams gamble more on lesser possibilities all the time. I'm not going to excoriate him for taking a chance on a still fairly young veteran in Amerson.

The problem would have been getting through pre-season and not seeing the need for a change there. Because funny enough - Amerson actually looked really good in camp. I was impressed on the day I was out there. But in game action he was obviously ass.

Veach didn't buy into the fools gold and he deserves some credit there.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13802024)
He's playing cover 2 corner in that situation.

Billay's an idiot.

I don't even like Scandrick but anyone that's butchering him for Parker biting on the shittiest slant route in the world and losing the outside zone just doesn't understand what he's looking at.

Titty Meat 10-09-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13802548)
Billay's an idiot.

I don't even like Scandrick but anyone that's butchering him for Parker biting on the shittiest slant route in the world and losing the outside zone just doesn't understand what he's looking at.

Thank you for not writing some long drawn out paragraph like you usually do instead you got to the point.

staylor26 10-09-2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13802621)
Thank you for not writing some long drawn out paragraph like you usually do instead you got to the point.

LMAO

That was funny Billay

T-post Tom 10-09-2018 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13802548)
Billay's an idiot.

I don't even like Scandrick but anyone that's butchering him for Parker biting on the shittiest slant route in the world and losing the outside zone just doesn't understand what he's looking at.

For the most part, watching the Jags safeties work was a lesson in being smart and "assignment-sound". Our safeties AND Bob Sutton should be forced to spend extra time watching that film.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13802642)
For the most part, watching the Jags safeties work was a lesson in being smart and "assignment-sound". Our safeties AND Bob Sutton should be forced to spend extra time watching that film.

I'm afraid to say anything positive, but Lucas was REALLY good. Sniffing out the INT on that 4 verts concept was solid but not the most amazing thing he did - he just read Bortles eyes, floated over and snagged a shitty overthrow.

But the 4th down stop was outstanding. He stayed in to help the OLB in coverage and passed him to the corner at the right time, then drove hard on that underneath route and stuck the receiver just as he looked ready to second effort his way past the sticks. Without Lucas drilling him, he gets that 1st down.

Parker seems to be gambling more to make up for lost athleticism and that's killing him because he's evidently a shitty guesser. But Lucas looked pretty solid back there.

Pitt Gorilla 10-09-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13802656)
I'm afraid to say anything positive, but Lucas was REALLY good. Sniffing out the INT on that 4 verts concept was solid but not the most amazing thing he did - he just read Bortles eyes, floated over and snagged a shitty overthrow.

But the 4th down stop was outstanding. He stayed in to help the OLB in coverage and passed him to the corner at the right time, then drove hard on that underneath route and stuck the receiver just as he looked ready to second effort his way past the sticks. Without Lucas drilling him, he gets that 1st down.

Parker seems to be gambling more to make up for lost athleticism and that's killing him because he's evidently a shitty guesser. But Lucas looked pretty solid back there.

Agree with all of this. If we can find a couple of young safeties that can get the job done, we'll be golden. Get Berry's contract off the books and fortify the defense with youth.

Marcellus 10-09-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13802423)
No. No he wasn't.

:facepalm:

Yes, yes he was, in every single statistical category, including QBR and rating etc... You do remember Rodgers got hurt and before that he wasn't lighting things up averaging 230 yards a game? Maybe if he had played 16 games instead of 7 most likely would have put up numbers to make an argument but he didn't, he was done after week 7.

But the facts are the facts, the PFF rating is correct, Smith was a better QB than Rodgers last season. Doesn't mean you want Smith over Rodgers but it supports that their metrics are accurate.


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