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TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 10:24 PM

Great FT shooting, Tigers. Real impressive.

Dartgod 02-20-2018 10:24 PM

Now we need a miracle 3 to force 2OT.

Stanley Nickels 02-20-2018 10:24 PM

Geist is a dumb goddamn idiot.

baitism 02-20-2018 10:25 PM

Tyus Edney, Geist is not.

petegz28 02-20-2018 10:25 PM

Had several chances to win a game you never should have lost, even after being down by 13....

This is a bad, bad loss.

2 games in a row if you hit FT's you win
2 games in a row we lose because we couldn't hit 1 or 2 FT's out of 4 chances

Jerm 02-20-2018 10:26 PM

Shaq level FT shooting....

TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 10:26 PM

And we’re back on the bubble . . . . .



This might be their worst loss of the season.

petegz28 02-20-2018 10:26 PM

I think we hit 1 FT out of 6 in the OT....

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-20-2018 10:26 PM

This team is losing out.

Dartgod 02-20-2018 10:27 PM

Hey, here's a great idea. Let's have Geist take the final shot. :facepalm:

petegz28 02-20-2018 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13427882)
And we’re back on the bubble . . . . .



This might be their worse loss of the season.

Bubble?

Shit, that probably put us out....

Losses to LSU and now Ole Miss at home????

Stanley Nickels 02-20-2018 10:27 PM

BONER.

Jerm 02-20-2018 10:27 PM

Game on the line and put the ball in the hands of.....Geist???

Nah....

Stanley Nickels 02-20-2018 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13427884)
This team is losing out.

Quoted.

baitism 02-20-2018 10:28 PM

Geist needs to ride the pine.

kepp 02-20-2018 10:28 PM

Geist...I don't...can't find the words
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dlphg9 02-20-2018 10:29 PM

I ****ing hate Geist. God damn mother****er. Hope he gets shanked by a hobo.

petegz28 02-20-2018 10:31 PM

Of course when we got up by 5 if we could have just inbounded the ball against a little pressure none of this even happens and we win going away....

Dartgod 02-20-2018 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13427899)
Of course when we got up by 5 if we could have just inbounded the ball against a little pressure none of this even happens and we win going away....

Except we would have missed FTs when fouled.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-20-2018 10:33 PM

Geist pretty much had a hand in everything bad that happened in the last 5:10 of that game.

Bricked the first FT they needed to make it a three-point game, made the unconscionable pass to Tilmon underneath when they had a 4-1 (who was promptly hacked and bricked both FTs, because he's Tilmon), had two other ill-advised drives to the basket that ended up in misses or blocks, and then he takes a fall-back 30 footer when triple teamed and two TOs in his pocket.

petegz28 02-20-2018 10:33 PM

You lose to LSU the way you did then you come out and play like this tonight on your own court? We have no business going to the tourney....

TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 10:35 PM

NIT! . . . . NIT! . . . . NIT!


(seems to be what they’re aiming for the last couple games)

NWTF 02-20-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13427882)
And we’re back on the bubble . . . . .



This might be their worst loss of the season.

Bad loss for sure probably blows any shot at the 7 seed which was probably the highest they were going to climb, but I think they'll stilll get in as an 8, 9, 10.

Dont see them beating UK now, but should win one of the last two or both.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-20-2018 10:48 PM

N...I....T. The UNZOUGETABLE CHOKEBACK

Pitt Gorilla 02-20-2018 10:48 PM

Geist was terrible.

dlphg9 02-20-2018 10:56 PM

It won't take much to be in. Probably need 2 more wins and they'll be good to go

TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 10:59 PM

Umm, with tonight’s loss at home to an 11-16 team with nothing to play for, you can no longer assume they win any of their remaining games.

They may lose out, and if they do, then they’ll definitely be NIT bound.

TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 11:02 PM

I mean, it’s still an improvement over the dumpster fire that was the Kim Anderson era, but talk about choking away a promising season and a solid NCAA bid . . . .

Sure-Oz 02-20-2018 11:04 PM

They gotta win what 2 games to get in?

Sure-Oz 02-20-2018 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13427926)
Geist was terrible.

Everything was Terrible. FT[emoji6] shooting... Robertson apparently can't be the guy taking the ball down the floor either for the last shot. Stupid turnovers all game. But yeah Geist made me vomit

Sure-Oz 02-20-2018 11:07 PM

@BKSportsTalk: Cuonzo says he wanted either a timeout after they got the ball in the front court, or a shot by Kassius in the corner on the final possession.

BWillie 02-20-2018 11:16 PM

21 turnovers. How did you guys almost beat West Virginia (because of their pressing forcing turnover defense). Seems like a team like that would be your bugaboo, and teams that don't pressure the ball handler would be a really good match up for Missouri.

Sure-Oz 02-20-2018 11:26 PM

@SamTSnelling: Again, I’ll reiterate. Every mock bracket tomorrow will have Missouri in the tournament. Every single one. If they lose to Kentucky, every single one.

Just beat Vandy and/or Arkansas and you have no worries.

TomBarndtsTwin 02-20-2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13427987)
@SamTSnelling: Again, I’ll reiterate. Every mock bracket tomorrow will have Missouri in the tournament. Every single one. If they lose to Kentucky, every single one.

Just beat Vandy and/or Arkansas and you have no worries.

Mostly agree, but if Mizzou can’t beat 11-16 Ole Miss at home what would make anyone think we can win either of the remaining two roadies or the Arky game? I mean, who’s confident Mizzou will win one of the final 3 right now? I’m not.

Titty Meat 02-20-2018 11:35 PM

No way this loss doesn't put Mizzou on the bubble

Dartgod 02-21-2018 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13427977)
21 turnovers. How did you guys almost beat West Virginia (because of their pressing forcing turnover defense). Seems like a team like that would be your bugaboo, and teams that don't pressure the ball handler would be a really good match up for Missouri.

We went from a comfortable win to "almost beating them" for exactly that reason. We shit our collective pants when WV turned up the pressure at the end of the game.

We were up 13 with 5 minutes left and then the pants shitting commenced.

JohnnyHammersticks 02-21-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13427977)
21 turnovers. How did you guys almost beat West Virginia (because of their pressing forcing turnover defense). Seems like a team like that would be your bugaboo, and teams that don't pressure the ball handler would be a really good match up for Missouri.

Phillips and Harris were still on the team when they almost beat WV. Neither could shoot, but both could handle the ball decently.

gblowfish 02-21-2018 10:19 AM

The last two losses are disappointing. But at least they're not getting killed by 20 every night like under Kermit. I'm willing to give Cuonzo some time to build a program here.

kepp 02-21-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13428394)
The last two losses are disappointing. But at least they're not getting killed by 20 every night like under Kermit. I'm willing to give Cuonzo some time to build a program here.

Yes. I'm too quick to dismiss the improvement we've seen from the Anderson years. If CM can pull in a couple nice guards we will see another big improvement. Someone that can command the offense and get the ball inside cleanly will help Tilmon immensely. Right now he has to jump two feet out of position just to get most of the passes thrown his way.

Mosbonian 02-21-2018 11:32 AM

I think I am going to change Geist' s last name to Heist....because he steals every victory from us.

Pitt Gorilla 02-21-2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 13428480)
I think I am going to change Geist' s last name to Heist....because he steals every victory from us.

I couldn't believe how careless he (and Robertson) were with the ball. They really didn't value the ball. Geist had his shot blocked an incredible amount of times as well. However, if the team would hit free throws, they win (regulation and/or overtime).

Mosbonian 02-22-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13428617)
I couldn't believe how careless he (and Robertson) were with the ball. They really didn't value the ball. Geist had his shot blocked an incredible amount of times as well. However, if the team would hit free throws, they win (regulation and/or overtime).

I will give Robertson a pass for a mistake here and there because the rest of his play makes up for it.

But Heist just continues to astound me with the bonehead plays....how Cuonzo hasn't benched him by now surprises me.

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 04:20 PM

Porter Jr cleared for full participation, per Jon Rothstein of CBS.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/sta...6%7Ctwterm%5E0


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baitism 02-22-2018 04:32 PM

If Porter gets cleared to play the NCAA will put Mizzou in for sure.

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 13430613)
If Porter gets cleared to play the NCAA will put Mizzou in for sure.


It would appear he has been cleared to play.

Sure-Oz 02-22-2018 06:06 PM

@GoodmanESPN: Source confirmed that Missouri freshman Michael Porter Jr., has been cleared for full contact. Source also told ESPN: "Not sure if he will play this season."

dlphg9 02-22-2018 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13430826)
@GoodmanESPN: Source confirmed that Missouri freshman Michael Porter Jr., has been cleared for full contact. Source also told ESPN: "Not sure if he will play this season."

Shut your whore mouth

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 06:52 PM

He will play unless his mom puts her foot down, and he listens.


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dlphg9 02-22-2018 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13430905)
He will play unless his mom puts her foot down, and he listens.


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How likely is that

Titty Meat 02-22-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13430905)
He will play unless his mom puts her foot down, and he listens.


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From a business stand point the mom is right. Where does he get picked if his back gets re-injured?

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13430994)
From a business stand point the mom is right. Where does he get picked if his back gets re-injured?

From a business standpoint, no one and done should be playing as a freshman.

DeAndre Ayton should sit out the rest of the season. So should Tre Young. And anyone else who's projected in the lottery. Marvin Bagley has missed a few games for Duke - same thing for him. He should sit out and avoid risk of reinjury.

He's been medically cleared for full contact. That means the injury is healed and there's no more risk of reinjury than there will be at any point in the future. And he does have some potential gains by coming back and playing.

There are several freshmen who have moved their stock above his in the draft because of the great seasons they've had. Playing for a tournament team and taking them on a run, like a real life Jimmy Chitwood, would be incredible for his brand and potentially help his stock.

It also would show NBA teams he's confident in his back and has no worries about it moving forward.

And from a personal standpoint, he'd get to play with his brother again - perhaps the last time he'll get to suit up with him rather than against him.

Lots of pros and cons both ways.

BWillie 02-22-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13431005)
From a business standpoint, no one and done should be playing as a freshman.

DeAndre Ayton should sit out the rest of the season. So should Tre Young. And anyone else who's projected in the lottery. Marvin Bagley has missed a few games for Duke - same thing for him. He should sit out and avoid risk of reinjury.

He's been medically cleared for full contact. That means the injury is healed and there's no more risk of reinjury than there will be at any point in the future. And he does have some potential gains by coming back and playing.

There are several freshmen who have moved their stock above his in the draft because of the great seasons they've had. Playing for a tournament team and taking them on a run, like a real life Jimmy Chitwood, would be incredible for his brand and potentially help his stock.

It also would show NBA teams he's confident in his back and has no worries about it moving forward.

And from a personal standpoint, he'd get to play with his brother again - perhaps the last time he'll get to suit up with him rather than against him.

Lots of pros and cons both ways.

Trae Young should have got suspended for impermissible benefits 10 games ago on purpose. Would have been Top 3 in the draft. Now the Big 12 meat grinder has exposed his finesse ass.

If I'm a true big like Bamba. I wouldn't even play. NBA doesn't care much about a bigs production in the NCAA. They just care about your wingspan and athleticism. Just get your own trainer, hang out for a year, collect your shoe contract money and wait for the draft.

But you routinely see shooters and guards improve their draft stock by production in the NCAA. Porter should play. He has more to gain than to lose at this point. If he was #1 or #2 in mocks, I get it. But he's anywhere from 6-9.

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13431024)
Trae Young should have got suspended for impermissible benefits 10 games ago on purpose. Would have been Top 3 in the draft. Now the Big 12 meat grinder has exposed his finesse ass.

If I'm a true big like Bamba. I wouldn't even play. NBA doesn't care much about a bigs production in the NCAA. They just care about your wingspan and athleticism. Just get your own trainer, hang out for a year, collect your shoe contract money and wait for the draft.

But you routinely see shooters and guards improve their draft stock by production in the NCAA. Porter should play. He has more to gain than to lose at this point. If he was #1 or #2 in mocks, I get it. But he's anywhere from 6-9.

I kind of hate it when we agree, just out of principle, on college basketball concepts.

But you're right.

KChiefs1 02-22-2018 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13430994)
From a business stand point the mom is right. Where does he get picked if his back gets re-injured?



Can’t injuries happen anytime/anyplace? I assume Trae Young could get hurt in his next game right?

I think NBA guys would like to see him in action to see what they are drafting.

dlphg9 02-22-2018 10:31 PM

Mizzou offers Ramey. That has to be a real good sign right?

duncan_idaho 02-22-2018 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13431233)
Mizzou offers Ramey. That has to be a real good sign right?


It would seem like a really good sign to me.

Seems unlikely Martin would offer this late unless he feels like he has a great shot, especially signed a PG committed last week.

dlphg9 02-22-2018 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13431257)
It would seem like a really good sign to me.

Seems unlikely Martin would offer this late unless he feels like he has a great shot, especially signed a PG committed last week.

Having Ramey would really help this team out next. They'd be scary good.

Titty Meat 02-23-2018 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13431072)
Can’t injuries happen anytime/anyplace? I assume Trae Young could get hurt in his next game right?

I think NBA guys would like to see him in action to see what they are drafting.

Sure but Young and the guys Duncan mentioned aren't coming off back surgery.

duncan_idaho 02-23-2018 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13431427)
Sure but Young and the guys Duncan mentioned aren't coming off back surgery.


He's been cleared by the surgeon who performed said surgery, which men's there's no more risk of reinjury.

If there was a chance basketball activities would reinjure the back, he wouldn't have been cleared for full participation.

baitism 02-23-2018 08:08 AM

The upside for Porter is if he plays 5-6 games and looks good, it will bump him up to the top 3 instead of 7-8ish. May not seems like a big deal but the $$$ difference is significant.

kepp 02-23-2018 09:28 AM

I heard on the radio that CM has a press conference today at 12:30...presumably to address MPJ situation

WhawhaWhat 02-23-2018 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 13431624)
I heard on the radio that CM has a press conference today at 12:30...presumably to address MPJ situation

"We're looking forward to the challenge of playing the Kentucky Wildcats on Saturday. They're a talented team with a real chance to do some damage in the tournament.

With that said.. the time is yours."

Rams Fan 02-23-2018 10:00 AM

Cats by 90.

siberian khatru 02-23-2018 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 13431624)
I heard on the radio that CM has a press conference today at 12:30...presumably to address MPJ situation

I believe that's his normal Friday press conference, but obviously he'll be asked about MPJ.

gblowfish 02-23-2018 11:43 AM

I don't think Mizzou really deserves an NCAA bid after losing to LSU and Ole Miss. If and that's a big IF they get into the NCAA, I hope to GOD they can win at least a first round game. That would be amazing progress in year one past Kermie.

WhawhaWhat 02-23-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 13431786)
I don't think Mizzou really deserves an NCAA bid after losing to LSU and Ole Miss.

:facepalm:

Who would you add in their place?

POND_OF_RED 02-23-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 13431662)
Cats by 90.

Are they going to be able to put a team on the floor? I’m just wondering how fast these punishments are going to be handed down.

Rams Fan 02-23-2018 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 13431819)
Are they going to be able to put a team on the floor? I’m just wondering how fast these punishments are going to be handed down.

The only active player who was mentioned in the report is Kevin Knox.

His father has denied doing anything.

The other 2 are Nerlens Noel and Bam Adebayo.

Noel was represented by Miller as a pro previously during his career. The more concerning name and interaction is Bam.

FBI hasn't contacted UK, yet.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2018 07:29 PM

Tilmon just can't stop ****ing up.

kepp 02-24-2018 07:35 PM

All you have to do is flop anywhere around Tilmon and it's a foul
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KChiefs1 02-24-2018 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 13436400)
All you have to do is flop anywhere around Tilmon and it's a foul
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That’s the plan.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2018 08:13 PM

Kentucky played out of their ****ing ass.

kepp 02-24-2018 08:29 PM

8 of 10 3 pt shots...one would hope that wouldn't continue
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dlphg9 02-24-2018 08:31 PM

Tilmon gets worse and worse

OKchiefs 02-24-2018 08:39 PM

Well this team is coming together nicely at just the right moment...

BlackHelicopters 02-24-2018 08:48 PM

Disappointing

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2018 09:13 PM

This is why the losses against LSU and Ole Miss were killer.

NWTF 02-24-2018 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13436549)
This is why the losses against LSU and Ole Miss were killer.

Yup, now its do or die time. They pretty much have to win the last two or will one be enough?

OKchiefs 02-24-2018 09:20 PM

They don't really deserve it this year. Get the NIT and come back with a team that doesn't have so many holes and weaknesses next year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2018 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13436559)
They don't really deserve it this year. Get the NIT and come back with a team that doesn't have so many holes and weaknesses next year.

They don't have a PG next year, they lose Barnett and Kassius, and Tilmon has shown almost nothing to inspire any confidence in his ability to stay on the floor or affect games.


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