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doomy3 10-07-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7068163)
I'm just looking for things to be consistant. Is collusion or the commish's opinon the standard for vetoing? You've said it both ways. Is total points scored on a season a way to evaluate a trade, like you did, good for just you evaluating a trade or does that work for me to? Just looking for clarity. I'm just dumbfounded how this was even delayed.

As commish I can veto a trade. I will only veto for suspected collusion, unless it is so lopsided that it can't be justified.

Clear?

shorman22 10-07-2010 11:43 AM

Why do you have to prove yourself Doomy?

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068171)
dude I admit I was wrong and caved in with my last post. Just stating a damn fact that I should have not caved in.

No, you've constantly made me look like an ass that made you do this deal. You keep using words like arguing, harassing, and bugging. You are a flat out liar, and there is nothing about our dealings that point to you "caving in" either. It is all right there in the email transcripts. Now, maybe you should just shut up and not mention it again. I don't like people making me out to be a bad guy or lying about how I acted.

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068176)
Why do you have to prove yourself Doomy?

Seriously? You posted numerous times about me and even said that I should "make it right" as if I did something wrong. I'm proving you are a lying dumbass more than I am proving anything about myself. I don't appreciate you making things up simply because other people in the league are complaining about something.

shorman22 10-07-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7068166)
Maybe this will shut you up. Sure doesn't look like arguing or bugging you to me. I also attached the last two trade offers with his rankings of the offers before we started chatting.

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Trade declined in Chiefs Planet Big Money League

To: Relentless Bergers - Chad Dumas
From: Team Fubar - Matt Shorman

SHOR trades Santana Moss, Was WR to Bergers
SHOR trades Ryan Mathews, SD RB to Bergers
SHOR trades Knowshon Moreno, Den RB to Bergers
DUMA trades Jahvid Best, Det RB to Fubar
DUMA trades Dwayne Bowe, KC WR to Fubar
DUMA trades Fred Jackson, Buf RB to Fubar
DUMA trades Legedu Naanee, SD WR to Fubar

Overall Rating: **** (4 stars) "I'm very interested. We're getting close."
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Trade declined in Chiefs Planet Big Money League

To: Relentless Bergers - Chad Dumas
From: Team Fubar - Matt Shorman

SHOR trades LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ RB to Bergers [DEAL-BREAKER]
SHOR trades Santana Moss, Was WR to Bergers
SHOR trades Ryan Mathews, SD RB to Bergers
DUMA trades Jahvid Best, Det RB to Fubar
DUMA trades Dwayne Bowe, KC WR to Fubar
DUMA trades Fred Jackson, Buf RB to Fubar
DUMA trades Legedu Naanee, SD WR to Fubar

Overall Rating: ***** (5 stars) "We're almost there."
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Matt Shorman to me
show details Sep 29 (7 days ago)

Get back on in 15 minutes and will discuss


Chad Dumas to Matt
show details Sep 29 (7 days ago)

OK, I'll be online, so just send me a gmail chat

matt shor to me
show details Sep 29 (7 days ago)

you want to talk

matt shor to me
show details Sep 29 (7 days ago)
4:33 PM
matt: hey maybe i have another deal on the line
4:34 PM
me: ok I see. I have turned down a few deals today because I thought we were getting close

if you don't think we can get something done, I'll start looking back into some of those.

Let me know
4:35 PM
matt: well we can i just worry bout best health turf tough=shitty rb

me: sure, I understand

sounds like his mri came back good though

matt: they need their fet damn it
4:36 PM
feet

me: the only reason I'm talking about trading him is because I need a little bit of an upgrade at WR

matt: i understand

me: I could get Jamaal Charles for him right now and trade him to you if you would rather have him

really I could get just about any back for him right now and could trade to you
4:37 PM
I've gotten tons of offers for Best. Way more than anyone else on my team]
4:39 PM
Like I said in my last email, I could do a different combo of WRs in the deal if that makes a difference
30 minutes
5:09 PM
me: you on?

matt: yo

alright final offer

actually
5:10 PM
the reason why i don't like it is that if jahvid doesnt play this week im out of rb
5:11 PM
me: Best is going to play

Plus, you still have Forsett and would have Fred Jackson. That's worse case scenario

Plus, you could pick up Kevin Smith if it came down to that
5:12 PM
matt: yah that blah compared to what you'll have

me: I don't know about that necessarily. The thing is, like I said, Best is the type of guy who single-handedly wins weeks. Like Chris Johnson
5:13 PM
matt: I agree or he flops

cause he on lions

me: I'm serious though, if there is someone else you would rather have than Best, I have been offered just about everyone for him

matt: no i rather have best
5:14 PM
just for right price

me: Well, I'm trying to get it worked for you

Already pulled out AJ out of the deal, and you keep Moreno

and you keep Fitz

matt: i said either or
5:15 PM
moreno still in just not both

me: Right I got you. Don't really need Moreno though. Was just trying to get something done.
5:16 PM
matt: kk how about this
5:17 PM
mathews moss and bears d for best, naanee steelers
5:18 PM
me: No, can't do that either man
5:19 PM
I woiuld do the D switch included in the last deal I offered you though

So

Matthews, Moss, Tomlinson and Bears D

for Best, Steelers, Naanee, Bowe, Jackson
5:20 PM
matt: can you pick up somebody other than jackson?

he on the bills and with cj spiller and mershawn
5:21 PM
me: you mean off waivers or something?

Lynch is going to get traded, and they aren't giving the ball to Spiller

Jackson had over 1000 last year. They'll have to start giving him the ball
5:22 PM
matt: well jackson only got 4 carries last game

me: right I know. They're showcasing Lynch for trade. As soon as he gets traded, Jackson's value will go WAY up

Buffalo started listening to trade offers today

matt: hang on one second

me: k
5:26 PM
matt: one switch

instead of bowe can i get lance moore cassel cant throw
5:27 PM
me: Yeah, we can do that. I like Lance quite a bit, but if that gets it done, then I'm good with that.

Deal?
5:29 PM
matt: let see get better rb better d. deal

me: sorry, what was that last message?
5:30 PM
matt: i still think you win out i just hope mershawn gets traded

me: I would bet you $1000 he gets traded. He'll be a Packer.
5:31 PM
You get the top ranked D, 3rd ranked RB. Pretty good deal for us both

matt: ya the defense kind of did it

me: And a WR who put up 40 last week

Moore
5:32 PM
matt: but it a third option

me: And he had a breakout season last time Bush got hurt

matt: send it

me: Sending it over right now
5:33 PM
Just sent it. Good dealing with you man
5:34 PM
We'll probably meet in the championship

matt: ya

me: good luck the rest of the way
5:35 PM
matt: that huge ****ing trade

9 player swap
5:38 PM
can we get it so it goes through right a way

me: yep, I'll push it through

as soon as you accept
7 minutes
5:45 PM
matt: i accepted it and it not pushed through
5:46 PM
me: not sure why it isn't pushing through
5:47 PM
do you have another deal out on the table with one of those guys involved? If you do, pull that off the table and that should push it through
5:48 PM
There we go. Now it's through

at the 5:20 mark I should not have caved.

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7068168)
Bradshaw is the 10th rated back in Fantasy Football. That would make him a RB1. There are a lot of rumors of Portis not playing another game for the Redskins.

But, the deal is through. No need to justify it.

I show 12 and that's also including the fact some teams have had byes. Matthews is rated 39th, is he the 39th best FFB RB? No.

pkane 10-07-2010 11:48 AM

Looks good now though after Lynch got traded

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7068188)
I show 12 and that's also including the fact some teams have had byes. Matthews is rated 39th, is he the 39th best FFB RB? No.

I honestly don't know what to expect from Matthews. And that's an honest answer. He is a rookie who everyone expected big things from, and most still do. Tolbert has looked good though, so who knows if he eats into any of his carries.

It's much like Spiller. Who knows WTF to expect from here on out.

shorman22 10-07-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7068177)
No, you've constantly made me look like an ass that made you do this deal. You keep using words like arguing, harassing, and bugging. You are a flat out liar, and there is nothing about our dealings that point to you "caving in" either. It is all right there in the email transcripts. Now, maybe you should just shut up and not mention it again. I don't like people making me out to be a bad guy or lying about how I acted.

Sure I was upset and in the heat of the moment. All I was saying in my last post is some advice stop taking everything personal. It a ****ing game.

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068194)
Sure I was upset and in the heat of the moment. All I was saying in my last post is some advice stop taking everything personal. It a ****ing game.

Don't say things about me and how I interacted with you that are made up, and I'll stop taking things personal. You're the one who keeps bringing up made up shit, and I'm simply responding to you.

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068183)
at the 5:20 mark I should not have caved.

lol @ the sales job. Doomy you have to have a job in sales right? Nice call on the Lynch trade though.

shorman22 10-07-2010 11:57 AM

Yes, I apologize. I was an idiot last couple weeks, messed up a lot of things these past week (tests, relationships, friendships, etc). Trust me I'm not like this

BigCatDaddy 10-07-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068209)
Yes, I apologize. I was an idiot last couple weeks, messed up a lot of things these past week (tests, relationships, friendships, etc). Trust me I'm not like this

Sure man.

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 7068202)
lol @ the sales job. Doomy you have to have a job in sales right? Nice call on the Lynch trade though.

Yep, sure am. And I was 100% correct in that exchange. Fred Jackson's value DID go way up this week. I'm in another league where Jackson and Felix Jones just fetched Ray Rice.

There's no where in that exchange where I pressured shorman to take the deal or got the impression that he didn't want to talk or that I was "bugging" or "harassing" him.

doomy3 10-07-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7068209)
Yes, I apologize. I was an idiot last couple weeks, messed up a lot of things these past week (tests, relationships, friendships, etc). Trust me I'm not like this

Yes, you already said that last week. Then you came back on today and made the same claims about "caving." You won't need to keep apologizing if you quit making the same baseless claims.


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