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Chiefspants 01-20-2018 11:31 AM

Hmm. After reflection, I find myself returning to this review by the NYTimes.

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It's a big, expensive, time-consuming, essentially mechanical operation... [It] is about as personal as a Christmas card from a bank." -
http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/061580empire.html

Rausch 01-20-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371693)
Is incorrect

At some point you have to quit defending the injection of politics into film.

Perhaps not the one's you work on but the idea as a whole.

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DaneMcCloud 01-20-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13371572)
Most of the "Stars" in movies these days take a piece of the gross box office instead of or in addition to their salary, correct?

While every deal is structured differently, no one out of possibly Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher are seeing backend from TLJ.

For Rogue One, no one was given back end and no one was paid more than $500,000 dollars for their role.

Now, if you're Mark Wahlberg or The Rock or Robert Downey, Jr or Tom Cruise, sure, they're getting Producer Credits and back end.

But Daisy Ridley or John Boyega? Highly doubtful.

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13371572)
If Disney is inflating these figures, wont that cost them more money when they have to pay out the % to the film makers?

I'm not sure I follow. Disney isn't reporting the box office grosses. Those are being reported by sources like The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Box Office Mojo, etc.

Also, the other thing to keep in mind is that while Disney's terms for Domestic Exhibitors is pretty tough, Disney still only receives 65% of the Domestic Box Office and after 4 weeks, that number usually favors the Exhibitor even more (I haven't seen any terms but after 4 weeks, that percentage is reduced in favor of the Exhibitor).

After 4 weeks, TLJ earned $580 million domestically, $377 million of which goes to Disney and the remaining $203 (plus concessions) is shared by the movie theater chains.

Throw in marketing and a little "Studio Accounting" and it's easy to see why very few actors receive Revenue Participation.

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13371386)
People are ****ing insane. This movie beats the ever-living piss out of Horn Rims 'lack of imagination'-fest.

Better than bad doesn't equal good.

Both films had excellent casting, direction, dialog, set pieces, VFX and cinematography.

While TFA was a Beat-for-Beat remake of A New Hope, The Last Jedi went off the rails and basically destroyed the Star Wars Galaxy canon.

If everyone can access The Force, why didn't Tarkin or Krennic or Mon Mothma use The Force?

Why were Baze Malbus and Chirrut Inwe "Guaridans of the Whills" if everyone can use The Force?

Why was an entire moon dedicated to the Jedi (Jedha) if everyone has access to The Force?

Between RJ changing the rules of The Force and his dopey "Holdo Maneuver", not to mention Finn, Poe and Rose's useless side mission, the wasted characters of Snoke and Captain Phasma, the entire movie is just a gigantic "**** You" to the original trilogy.

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13371709)
At some point you have to quit defending the injection of politics into film.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13371386)
People are ****ing insane. This movie beats the ever-living piss out of Horn Rims 'lack of imagination'-fest.

Thank.

God.

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13371559)
This

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371693)
Is incorrect


Rausch 01-20-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371730)
I have no idea what you're talking about.

CP says it's good, so, I stand corrected...

Hammock Parties 01-20-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13371676)
Why do you think George Lucas later said he sold his people (Lucasfilm) to white slavers? (yes, that's an actual quote.)

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He was making a joke...

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13371748)
CP says it's good, so, I stand corrected...

It still don't know what you're talking about...

Rausch 01-20-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371772)
It still don't know what you're talking about...

Kennedy clearly impressed on her director what she wanted.

No, she didn't write a script. She just had all the money, 6 of 8 writers being RABID FEMINISTS, and a "vision" of what was wanted.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H-ddBIEU-z8/hqdefault.jpg

Outside of that he was free to create his own vision...

:rolleyes:

Hammock Parties 01-20-2018 12:33 PM

It's a dumb argument because the most interesting character in the movie is Kylo Ren and his relationships with his father figures.

Rey is just a construct for the audience to experience the movie through.

Rausch 01-20-2018 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13371784)
Rey is just a construct for the audience to experience the movie through.

I'll keep my opinions aside but I think that's why the film fails.

Rey clearly is the "everyman" of the new trilogy. What did she do in TLJ that made you want her to succeed?

What happened in that film that made you feel sorry for her?

What happened in TLJ that changed your opinion of her?

Exactly...

Rausch 01-20-2018 12:43 PM

Here is why TLJ SUCKED - EVERYONE wanted the answer to two questions:

1) What has Luke been up to?
2) Why is Rey such a badass?

TLJ said "I don't care what you want, **** you, I'm giving you something else."

Why are people shocked at the response?...

Hammock Parties 01-20-2018 12:49 PM

Speak for yourself...

*shrug*

DaneMcCloud 01-20-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13371794)
Rey clearly is the "everyman" of the new trilogy. What did she do in TLJ that made you want her to succeed?

I've stated this earlier but do you think anyone will be clamoring for a new Star Wars film in 32 years following the further adventures of Poe, Finn and Rey?

LMAO

No ****ing way.

Rausch 01-20-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371814)
I've stated this earlier but do you think anyone will be clamoring for a new Star Wars film in 32 years following the further adventures of Poe, Finn and Rey?

So it's not even a sandcastle made of sand, it's made of feces.


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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13371814)
LMAO

No ****ing way.

It's not horrid writing - it's not even writing. It's a message funneled down to the director by Feminist in King Kennedy.

This is why I want to ****ing slap people when they throw shade at Kevin Feige. He's a dick. He is. HE IS. But he has a clear vision and it will not deviate.

He's the last bastion holding off the SJW nonsense. His money holds the midas touch and once he's gone it's over. It's done.

It's all SJW after he leaves...


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