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KC_Connection 12-03-2023 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17255923)
I interpreted the pants shitting to be from the defensive pressure. Then they settled in a bit. And it's possible the environment fed the energy for the defensive pressure.

Hurley attributed it post-game to the environment. That was my view of it too.

smithandrew051 12-03-2023 06:33 PM

I didn’t even find myself too upset with what Newton was doing.

Sure we could’ve defended him a bit better, but he was making some incredible shots. Sometimes a guy is just on. It was the game of his life for sure.

ChiefsFanatic 12-03-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17256087)
I didn’t even find myself too upset with what Newton was doing.

Sure we could’ve defended him a bit better, but he was making some incredible shots. Sometimes a guy is just on. It was the game of his life for sure.

Honestly, as someone who has been watching games in AFH since 1986, I wasn't even upset enough to complain about some of the ridiculous makes.

I have seen so many players, some stars, but mostly mid or lower players, have the literal game of their life in AFH.

And, Self teams have a long history of questionable 3-point defense, so I have just become numb to shooting performances like that.

Fansy the Famous Bard 12-03-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17256133)
Honestly, as someone who has been watching games in AFH since 1986, I wasn't even upset enough to complain about some of the ridiculous makes.

I have seen so many players, some stars, but mostly mid or lower players, have the literal game of their life in AFH.

And, Self teams have a long history of questionable 3-point defense, so I have just become numb to shooting performances like that.

Yep. It becomes more of a "oh... here we go. This is how it's gonna be, tonight"

Chief Pagan 12-03-2023 07:11 PM

The frustrating one is the number of offensive rebounds KU is giving up, especially on missed 3-point shots.

smithandrew051 12-03-2023 07:14 PM

There’s a good video floating around out there on X about KJ’s defense and how he helps.

It’s only like 2 minutes long. Once you really watch him, you can see how good he is defensively.

Buehler445 12-03-2023 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17256041)
Hurley attributed it post-game to the environment. That was my view of it too.

Interesting. You’d think a team coming off a championship would be able to handle a crowd. Even if it is AFH, which I love.

KC_Connection 12-03-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17256781)
Interesting. You’d think a team coming off a championship would be able to handle a crowd. Even if it is AFH, which I love.

He said something to the effect that they'd never been in a place with that kind of fan engagement.

cmh6476 12-05-2023 02:36 PM

yoooge game tonite

BWillie 12-05-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17262608)
yoooge game tonite

UMKC changing name to Kansas City now makes them national power

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 07:16 PM

Kevin McCullar would start for UMKC imo

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 07:44 PM

I really can’t figure out why opposing fans hate Dickinson so much

Mr. Plow 12-05-2023 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17262965)
I really can’t figure out why opposing fans hate Dickinson so much

Big, goofy, white..... Basically he's a Duke player. Everyone hates Duke players.

Buehler445 12-05-2023 08:18 PM

Of course ****ing Newton looks like he's wearing concrete shoes against UNC.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:21 PM

Harris is missing basically every layup this year.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:22 PM

Yeah, you might want to get Dickinson back in there.

Lzen 12-05-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 17262993)
Big, goofy, white..... Basically he's a Duke player. Everyone hates Duke players.

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Mr. Plow 12-05-2023 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17263004)
Harris is missing basically every layup this year.

If he can start hitting those little bunnies consistently, we're going to be tough to beat

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17263004)
Harris is missing basically every layup this year.

He’s shooting like 28% on 2 point field goals and 50% on 3 point field goals.

I wonder if there’s some sort of record for the discrepancy between 3 point and 2 point percentage. That’s a pretty good gap.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:45 PM

Timberlake is absolutely atrocious. Can they get a refund?

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 08:49 PM

Man that’s a soft foul on Jackson

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263033)
Man that’s a soft foul on Jackson

He deserved it. Has been playing like he’s half asleep.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:52 PM

About to be a 2 possession game mostly because this team has no bench and the starters can’t bothered to give a shit tonight.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17263036)
He deserved it. Has been playing like he’s half asleep.

This team seems very content letting bad teams hang around.

Maybe Self is playing with the lineup too much or experimenting a bit, but these mismatch games have been annoying this year.

Playing way down for bad teams.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263040)
This team seems very content letting bad teams hang around.

Maybe Self is playing with the lineup too much or experimenting a bit, but these mismatch games have been annoying this year.

Playing way down for bad teams.

It’s a product of depth and effort. You can’t expect the starters to go full out in a game like this (especially coming off that UConn game) but usually this program has the quality bench players such that they don’t have to. It’s just not the case right now.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 08:59 PM

If they gave the effort they did in the last 2 minutes all game, they win by 40.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17263044)
If they gave the effort they did in the last 2 minutes all game, they win by 40.

KJ had an incredible second half.

Hopefully we see that effort for 40 against Missouri.

KC_Connection 12-05-2023 09:01 PM

No refunds needed on Furphy.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17263047)
No refunds needed on Furphy.

I think we ideally end up with an 8 man rotation of:

Harris
Elmarko
McCullar
Adams
Dickinson

Furphy
McDowell
Braun

Furphy looks to be getting better. Super high ceiling.
McDowell has potential.
Braun has been fine for 10 minutes to spell Dickinson. No more than that.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 09:05 PM

I’m amazed at how good KJ Adams has become.

I didn’t see this coming when he was a freshman.

If he could just develop any kind of outside shot, he’d take things to another level.

DJay23 12-05-2023 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263052)
I’m amazed at how good KJ Adams has become.

I didn’t see this coming when he was a freshman.

If he could just develop any kind of outside shot, he’d take things to another level.

I agree about the outside shot. I do like the little floater/shot put shot he does. It works even if it looks funny.

But if he could hit even 15 footers with consistency, boy look out.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 10:57 PM

Timberlake from 3 tonight = 1/5

All other Jayhawks = 7/15 (which includes an uncharacteristic 0/2 from Dickinson)

I think Self probably keeps trying it with him until conference play, then he moves to scrub status.

Disappointing, because we could use another shooter. If he’s a liability everywhere else and can’t shoot anymore, then he doesn’t have a role.

cmh6476 12-05-2023 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263052)
I’m amazed at how good KJ Adams has become.

I didn’t see this coming when he was a freshman.

If he could just develop any kind of outside shot, he’d take things to another level.

much better at the 4, than depending on him at the 5.

smithandrew051 12-05-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17263125)
much better at the 4, than depending on him at the 5.

I bet that experience at the 5 helped him out though. Probably made him stronger around the basket and a better post defender.

Self went small for a bit tonight with KJ at the 5. I think we had Timberlake in though, so it was wasted.

I’d like to see a bit more small ball at times with:

Harris
Elmarko
Furphy
McCullar
Adams

BWillie 12-06-2023 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263010)
He’s shooting like 28% on 2 point field goals and 50% on 3 point field goals.

I wonder if there’s some sort of record for the discrepancy between 3 point and 2 point percentage. That’s a pretty good gap.

Pretty sure Devonte Graham. He was a better 3pt shooter than 2FG shooter senior year.

BWillie 12-06-2023 12:33 AM

More evidence Furphinator needs more minutes

smithandrew051 12-06-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17263165)
Pretty sure Devonte Graham. He was a better 3pt shooter than 2FG shooter senior year.

I don’t think the discrepancy was 22 percentage points though

O.city 12-06-2023 08:22 AM

Woulda been nice if they'd have won by 27 when some of us had a 26 1/2 number in mind.

KC_Connection 12-06-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17263270)
Woulda been nice if they'd have won by 27 when some of us had a 26 1/2 number in mind.

Would have had to try for 4 minutes instead of 2 minutes to do that.

Buehler445 12-06-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17263129)
I bet that experience at the 5 helped him out though. Probably made him stronger around the basket and a better post defender.

Self went small for a bit tonight with KJ at the 5. I think we had Timberlake in though, so it was wasted.

I’d like to see a bit more small ball at times with:

Harris
Elmarko
Furphy
McCullar
Adams

To me the best look is Hunter outside and KJ or McCullar abusing bitches inside.

I know that’s not KJ at the 5 but there are some elements of KJ at the 5.

BWillie 12-06-2023 11:03 AM

Johnny Furphy is shooting 90% on 2 pointers.

cmh6476 12-10-2023 12:45 AM

Stomped their d1cks in the dirt

Lzen 12-10-2023 10:30 AM

https://twitter.com/GPCRyanG/status/...KooxLH66Q&s=19

smithandrew051 12-10-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17268061)

After Arterio, I don’t think Self would touch him unless he knows the full story and is comfortable with it.

Feels like we still don’t know everything.

Lzen 12-10-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17268083)
After Arterio, I don’t think Self would touch him unless he knows the full story and is comfortable with it.

Feels like we still don’t know everything.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I guess we'll see if there's anything to this

KC_Connection 12-10-2023 12:59 PM

When he was released, I had hoped we'd be an option. We badly need the depth.

smithandrew051 12-10-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17268290)
When he was released, I had hoped we'd be an option. We badly need the depth.

If he’s bitter at K State, then we’d be the best option for revenge

BWillie 12-10-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17268290)
When he was released, I had hoped we'd be an option. We badly need the depth.

We need a guy who can score off the dribble at the end of the shot clock. Tomlin would be a fine get but it's not really an immediate need. Would be much nicer to have him next year, though.

KC_Connection 12-10-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17268363)
We need a guy who can score off the dribble at the end of the shot clock. Tomlin would be a fine get but it's not really an immediate need. Would be much nicer to have him next year, though.

More players who can actually play basketball at this level (i.e. not Timberlake) would be very useful considering how reliant this team is on their starters.

BWillie 12-16-2023 11:11 AM

KU vs Indiana starting up here in 20 minutes.

Indiana does not look very good this year but any road game is a tough game in CBB.

Also looks like we dodged a bullet in Mgbako. He hasn't quite been as advertised.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 11:48 AM

Didn't come out ready to play at all. Not matching the intensity.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 11:50 AM

Dickinson passing out to Elmarko Jackson on the perimeter with a guard on him in the post...

PHOG 12-16-2023 11:50 AM

Another wide open 3

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 11:51 AM

KJ taking quite a bit of contact with no foul. Refs really letting them play, which is fine.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 11:56 AM

Not helping on a drive, throwing garbage passes for turnovers for no reason to turn into points. Dickinson has to be better than this.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 11:56 AM

This is a bad game for Dickinson so far. Both ends.

I wonder if he gets a little too worked up with these Big 10 crowds.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 11:57 AM

McCullar got him with the shot fake. Just go up and get the 3 free throws.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 11:58 AM

So Mgbako gets the continuation but Dickinson was fouled before the tip?

Make that one make sense.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:01 PM

They'd be getting completely blown out by a pretty mediocre team without KJ right now. Dickinson better wake up at some point because we're not really doing anything offensively without him.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17281563)
This is a bad game for Dickinson so far. Both ends.

I wonder if he gets a little too worked up with these Big 10 crowds.

Big 12 crowds won't be any better for him.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:04 PM

Also, that was a bullshit call on the screen by KJ but to be expected.

Buehler445 12-16-2023 12:05 PM

Yep, still hate Big 10 Ball.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:07 PM

Their big was a career 3 for 15 from three coming into the game. 2 for 2 today. I think we'll have to make him keep shooting.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:08 PM

2nd foul on KJ wasn't much either. That's gonna hurt with our complete lack of depth.

PHOG 12-16-2023 12:10 PM

At least I'm not having to listen to Bilas bs today.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 12:12 PM

Elmarko has played some really good defense at times.

That tie up was nice. He also forced a few turnovers in transition which prevented easy scores.

Bill Self clearly loves this guy.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:12 PM

Elmarko and Furphy are gonna have to grow up quick if we're gonna win this game with as many fouls as they're calling on us. Probably will have to do so if we're gonna win in the tournament too.

Can't imagine we'll get anything from Timberlake.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:16 PM

Two bricked open threes for that joke Timberlake already. Play somebody else.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 12:16 PM

Indiana in the bonus with 7 minutes left. Gross.

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 12:18 PM

They’re going to be in the double bonus with 5 minutes left in the half

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:19 PM

So that wasn't a shooting foul on Timberlake? What did they think he was doing when he was driving to the rim? LMAO

smithandrew051 12-16-2023 12:21 PM

Braun needs to sit. That was an awful stretch.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:21 PM

Blowout looks to be on the way. This team is shooting about 30% so you can't say we don't deserve it.

Pablo 12-16-2023 12:22 PM

Goddamn what a shit half, haven't got to watch much but Hunter is not handling the old haunts well

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:23 PM

They're calling a ridiculous amount of fouls on both ends in this game and it is making it awful to watch. Also gonna make it just about impossible to win considering we only have like 4 reliable players.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:25 PM

Timberlake can't even make FTs LMAO

I just can't believe they actually paid this guy to play basketball.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:29 PM

Finally playing McDowell instead of Timberlake. Yeah, that's absolutely the right choice. He can actually get better by March too.

PHOG 12-16-2023 12:34 PM

Dickenson have led in his feet?

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:34 PM

Dickinson missing point blank open layups? Ok.

KC_Connection 12-16-2023 12:37 PM

Shot 35% to their 54%. Honestly lucky to not be down by 15 at half.


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