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Valiant 09-30-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13109636)
I'm already bored and uninterested in the setting of this series in terms of the timeline. Grateful that it's in the prime universe, but it may as well be in the JJ Abrams universe with the technology anachronisms. At least they TRIED to talk about how limited the technology was in Enterprise. Here I can't tell if it's the 23rd century or the 24th century.

Prequels suck. They don't explore strange new worlds or seek out new life and new civilizations. They're basically there to make money. That's about it.

I think it DOES shed some light on why CBS was so pissed off about Axanar, though. Axanar was doing shit they wanted to do (the pre-Kirk Klingon War). Wouldn't surprise me if they completely lifted sections and plot ideas from that Prelude to Axanar video. If this happens it will remind me a bit of when the creator of Babylon 5 went to Paramount with the mapped out Babylon universe, they said no to his show idea, but then created DS9 instead which ripped off enormous segments of that Babylon script. Granted, DS9 is infinitely better than Babylon 5, but it's still kind of shady.

The **** it is. Season 2 thru 4 is the greatest sci-fi story arc ever.

Nickhead 10-01-2017 03:29 AM

prequels are okay as long as the new version does not surpass the old. like star wars rogue one. it didn't look 'newer', where as episodes 1,2, and 3 set the franchise back.

this show reeks of overkill. :D

unlurking 10-01-2017 07:17 PM

The Orville is more Trek than this piece of garbage. They have totally shit all over the klingons. Great special effects, but everything else about it sucks.

Frazod 10-03-2017 10:52 PM

Just finished the third episode. It's getting better.

Discuss Thrower 10-03-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13124442)
Just finished the third episode. It's getting better.

I think so, too.

You had the science explorers vs military angle with Stamets bitching about his work being co-opted by Lorca and Starfleet as a whole, kind of a fish out of water comedic angle with Cadet Tilly bunking with Michael, the aforementioned rookie officer acting counter to typical tropes in confidently facing down the Klingon and the Starfleet higher ups doing shady shit (Lorca and Landry capturing the mutant carnivorous Tardigrade). On the shadiness note, I got distracted keeping up with the Las Vegas news Monday morning, so I couldn't discern whether or not just about everything involving Lorca's dealing with Michael were all deception or manipulation. Especially, for example, his light sensitivity.

Dunno where they are going with the "spore" storyline given the implications it would have on storytelling, but it was nice to see on screen Rekha Sharma again even though you know she'll probably be axed to give Michael a role to assume on the Discovery.


Edit: So I figured there'd be some handwringing about the tone of the third episode concerning the scenes on the U.S.S. Glenn, but it wasn't the first time there was a more family unfriendly episode. Context is for Kings reminded me a lot of DS9's Empok Nor episode. As I rewatch that episode now and look at the Memory Alpha article on it, I wasn't shocked to see Bryan Fuller got the story credit.

Rausch 10-04-2017 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13107090)

I just can't buy into it.

I'm not liking what I'm hearing.

Apparently there's a boatload of political BS attached to the show (not by political minded viewers but the cast itself) but I'll wait until the season is over, binge, and give it a chance.

It will be entertaining or it won't and that's all that matters...

Frazod 10-04-2017 11:12 AM

I just wish they'd set this after the NG era. Everything is so completely out of step with canon that it's just ridiculous. I just try to ignore that, but it's hard. :shake:

I think the reason this last episode was better was because it only had the shitty new Klingons in it for about 10 seconds.

unlurking 10-04-2017 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13125116)
I just wish they'd set this after the NG era. Everything is so completely out of step with canon that it's just ridiculous. I just try to ignore that, but it's hard. :shake:

I think the reason this last episode was better was because it only had the shitty new Klingons in it for about 10 seconds.

lol

Sad when you improve a Star Trek episode about the Klingon War by removing the Klingons. :(

Frazod 10-04-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 13125632)
lol

Sad when you improve a Star Trek episode about the Klingon War by removing the Klingons. :(

I liken the Klingons in Discovery to Sofia Coppola in Godfather Part III. No matter who else is in the scene or what's going on, all you can think about is how absolutely awful they are.

unlurking 10-04-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13126169)
I liken the Klingons in Discovery to Sofia Coppola in Godfather Part III. No matter who else is in the scene or what's going on, all you can think about is how absolutely awful they are.

ROFL

It truly is jarring. Whoever said it earlier is right on about this being why they went after Axanar. I've seen the prelude twice now, and would take the full version over Discovery any day. Even with the super low FX budget.

notorious 10-05-2017 10:12 AM

I really don't know why it would be hard to create a new race to fight.


They really could have avoided using Klingons, but I am willing to see where they take it.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2017 11:44 PM

Liked tonight's episode a lot and seemed pretty true to the idea of Star Trek in general.

Spoiler!

notorious 10-11-2017 11:10 AM

Decent show. Worth watching unless you require it to be like the old Star Trek.

Discuss Thrower 10-11-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13142291)
Decent show. Worth watching unless you require it to be like the old Star Trek.

Sunday's episode was like 'old Trek' though.

notorious 10-11-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 13142309)
Sunday's episode was like 'old Trek' though.

I haven't watched the latest yet, I finished the episode about spores.


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