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Bump 04-17-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 8548413)
I haven't read through this thread because I don't have enough god damn time.

I'm assuming that with the large number of intelligent people who troll this forum (and don't lol, there are very intelligent people here - those who see the greatness that Captain America Stanzi really is), that somebody has mentioned how our country is a plutocracy with the appearance of a democracy to keep poor people from getting too riled up.

Corporations not only run our country, they run the world. With candidates no longer required to disclose where their campaigns receive money from, does that not raise a giant red flag about where the money comes from? When a corporation basically bankrolls your entire campaign, does that corporation not want you to return the favor when in office?
What is there to keep foreign interests from making large donations to candidates?

Our political system is f'd. Entirely f'd. And the people in charge are geniuses. They take the largest portion of our society and split them up over meaningless issues like birth control and the right to bear arms and religion instead of us uniting against what's really important in our country.

"Demonize welfare, middle class eliminated. Rich get richer 'til the poor get educated."

If you're making under $400k per year, you need to realize that you're no different than the cashier at Wal-Mart. Your $400k a year might as well be turds in a purse compared to the uber wealthy in this country.

YUP

I totally agree, I wish more people could see what is happening. But they can't.

tmw4h5 04-17-2012 12:24 PM

I hate talking about shit like that because people almost always label you a conspiracy theorist.

But let's be honest here man, if you honestly think that the average politician in DC gives a shit about you, you're delusional.

You know what's sad? Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is actually a somewhat accurate representation of our government.

I'm just extremely tired of these people I see around that are making $60k a year who think that the government has their best interest at heart -- you're lying to yourself.

Bump 04-17-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 8548436)
I hate talking about shit like that because people almost always label you a conspiracy theorist.

But let's be honest here man, if you honestly think that the average politician in DC gives a shit about you, you're delusional.

You know what's sad? Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is actually a somewhat accurate representation of our government.

I'm just extremely tired of these people I see around that are making $60k a year who think that the government has their best interest at heart -- you're lying to yourself.

I've never met a conservative who doesn't believe everything their republican official tells them. You are right, they honestly believe that there is no corruption in our government, they really do. They see nothing wrong with corporations buying their own laws, bribing congress and throwing our votes out and buying elections. Anyone who questions the government is labeled a left winged loon and it just shows, most people can't see things for what they actually are.

I'm expecting the worst and I do believe we are about to face another depression and it will be brought on intentionally by our elite. They want to be Gods, being uber rich isn't enough, why do you think we are fighting these wars overseas? money and power, all of soldiers are dying in vain over there and it's sad. Once gas goes up even more, that has a direct effect on our economy and it's just going to keep getting worse and worse until it's too late.

Donger 04-17-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 8548413)
I haven't read through this thread because I don't have enough god damn time.

I'm assuming that with the large number of intelligent people who troll this forum (and don't lol, there are very intelligent people here - those who see the greatness that Captain America Stanzi really is), that somebody has mentioned how our country is a plutocracy with the appearance of a democracy to keep poor people from getting too riled up.

Corporations not only run our country, they run the world. With candidates no longer required to disclose where their campaigns receive money from, does that not raise a giant red flag about where the money comes from? When a corporation basically bankrolls your entire campaign, does that corporation not want you to return the favor when in office?
What is there to keep foreign interests from making large donations to candidates?

Our political system is f'd. Entirely f'd. And the people in charge are geniuses. They take the largest portion of our society and split them up over meaningless issues like birth control and the right to bear arms and religion instead of us uniting against what's really important in our country.

"Demonize welfare, middle class eliminated. Rich get richer 'til the poor get educated."

If you're making under $400k per year, you need to realize that you're no different than the cashier at Wal-Mart. Your $400k a year might as well be turds in a purse compared to the uber wealthy in this country.

What on Earth compelled you to post this on this thread?

Bump 04-17-2012 12:38 PM

Oh surprise, Donger is here to insult anyone who questions the government again.

Donger 04-17-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8548481)
Oh surprise, Donger is here to insult anyone who questions the government again.

No, there are other places for that. I was just wondering why he/she chose this thread in which to rant.

BigMeatballDave 04-17-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8548454)
I've never met a conservative who doesn't believe everything their republican official tells them. You are right, they honestly believe that there is no corruption in our government, they really do. They see nothing wrong with corporations buying their own laws, bribing congress and throwing our votes out and buying elections. Anyone who questions the government is labeled a left winged loon and it just shows, most people can't see things for what they actually are.

I'm expecting the worst and I do believe we are about to face another depression and it will be brought on intentionally by our elite. They want to be Gods, being uber rich isn't enough, why do you think we are fighting these wars overseas? money and power, all of soldiers are dying in vain over there and it's sad. Once gas goes up even more, that has a direct effect on our economy and it's just going to keep getting worse and worse until it's too late.

Complete ****ing bullshit.

InChiefsHeaven 04-17-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmw4h5 (Post 8548413)
I haven't read through this thread because I don't have enough god damn time.

I'm assuming that with the large number of intelligent people who troll this forum (and don't lol, there are very intelligent people here - those who see the greatness that Captain America Stanzi really is), that somebody has mentioned how our country is a plutocracy with the appearance of a democracy to keep poor people from getting too riled up.

Corporations not only run our country, they run the world. With candidates no longer required to disclose where their campaigns receive money from, does that not raise a giant red flag about where the money comes from? When a corporation basically bankrolls your entire campaign, does that corporation not want you to return the favor when in office?
What is there to keep foreign interests from making large donations to candidates?

Our political system is f'd. Entirely f'd. And the people in charge are geniuses. They take the largest portion of our society and split them up over meaningless issues like birth control and the right to bear arms and religion instead of us uniting against what's really important in our country.

"Demonize welfare, middle class eliminated. Rich get richer 'til the poor get educated."

If you're making under $400k per year, you need to realize that you're no different than the cashier at Wal-Mart. Your $400k a year might as well be turds in a purse compared to the uber wealthy in this country.

Um, this thread is largely about the price of oil, we try to skirt politics in it. Yes, it can be inevitable, but for the most part, we try to skip the politics.

Actually, I don't really know that we've been that successful, but we try.

Welcome to the Planet.

Bump 04-17-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8548490)
Complete ****ing bullshit.

no, it's not.

BigMeatballDave 04-17-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8548506)
no, it's not.

Politicians are like this. NOT Republicans is general. This includes Democrats.

Donger 04-17-2012 01:20 PM

Crude is up, BTW. $104 per barrel. Gasoline at $3.89

InChiefsHeaven 04-17-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8548572)
Crude is up, BTW. $104 per barrel. Gasoline at $3.89

Oh. Ahem, back to the thread.

**** YOU DONGER! /Bugeater

Frosty 04-17-2012 01:30 PM

4.10 here.

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8548585)
**** YOU DONGER! /Bugeater

THIS!!!

BigMeatballDave 04-17-2012 01:35 PM

I dont even pay much attention to gas prices. I have to buy it.

tmw4h5 04-17-2012 01:38 PM

I'm not attacking conservatives or liberals, I'm attacking the idea that we, as Americans, seemingly refuse to see what is going on in the world.
We are the ones who are impacted the most, yet we are too easily distracted by meaningless shit to do something about it.

The first car ever invented was an electric car. Global warming is obvious (however, it has been exaggerated greatly by many people -- but to say that we have no effect on our climate is a complete joke) and these natural resources that we are using will be depleted at some point.
Rather than invest in new technology, we continue to allow others to control our lives via oil.

As sad as it is, our entirety as a society is controlled by the price of gasoline.

There are other alternative fuel sources -- we have ways to reduce our dependence on oil (not just foreign, but oil in general), but it's far too profitable for those in charge.

Gas prices are what they are because they simply know that we are willing to pay whatever it costs to travel/go to work/etc. Oil is only behind oxygen and water in terms of necessities for us as Americans. It ties with food. Why? How do you think you get your food? How do you think your food gets to you?

You're telling me that we can split an atom but we can't create an alternative fuel source that is more acceptable than gasoline?
Are you f'ing kidding me?

It's the same idea when it comes to medicine. Think about it from the point of view of a pharmaceutical company. If you could offer somebody a one-time solution for a disease or a cancer that is a one-time-pay sort of option or have somebody paying monthly for medicine for years and years, what would you choose financially?

As humans, we are capable of fantastic things; that has been proven. But we are also (seemingly) inherently greedy and we continue to let power/money control us.


Again, oil prices are what they are because we will pay anything to get gas -- we have to because that's the society that we live in.
WE, as people, can force a change in the way things are done.


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