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BryanBusby 08-27-2019 04:43 PM

There aren't even any stats showing how more productive he was outside vs. in. You say they wrote those words and took them to heart, but when DJ posted numbers you lost your goddamn mind LMAO

They're both good pass-rushers and who gives a flying **** if it's inside or out?

scho63 08-27-2019 04:43 PM

So all these ****ing pages of back and forth and arguing and I still don't see one single Goddamn trade! WTF???

Romper Room this shit thread

staylor26 08-27-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14411969)
There aren't even any stats showing how more productive he was outside vs. in. You say they wrote those words and took them to heart, but when DJ posted numbers you lost your goddamn mind LMAO

Umm yes there are. Sacks/pressures inside vs. out. Just because they aren’t in the article doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

And no, I didn’t “take them to heart”. It was something I already knew to be true and have seen for myself and heard from places other than PFF. Have you ever watched Clowney? Were you unaware of this?

DJ's left nut 08-27-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14411954)
I’m talking about production, not PFF grades. It’s simple, but you keep trying to make it seem like it’s more than it is or catch me me being hypocritical.

Clark is more reliable and more productive. That was my point from the beginning. He’s the better player. Period.

There you go again.

You can make a fair argument for better rusher. Probably.

There is NO argument for better player. Period.

You have to just completely reject reality and substitute your own to disregard Clowney being a superior run defender. He just is - dudes a monster against the run and for a fanbase holding out Clark's generally above average run defense as elite because he's not Dee Ford, it sure is odd to see Clowney's demonstrable superiority there being hand-waived...

ToxSocks 08-27-2019 04:48 PM

Frank Clark looks better in tights.

/thread

O.city 08-27-2019 04:49 PM

They have talked about it a lot and I will admit it’s not quantifiable for any of us but Clark is the engine this thing is built around. Not just skill set but mentality and attitude.

I don’t think they see that in Clowney

Thankfully Clark is gonna put up a Khalil Mack type year and no one will car

SAUTO 08-27-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14411735)
Yeah, I think that's why they liked Clark so much.

They needed some dogs on defense. I dunno that Clowney is that.

I agree.

**** I'd almost go after Clowney right now if I was the chiefs. Pass rush might help mask the CBs.

DJ's left nut 08-27-2019 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 14411970)
So all these ****ing pages of back and forth and arguing and I still don't see one single Goddamn trade! WTF???

Romper Room this shit thread

Then don't read it you mopey ****ing ****.

Its Chiefs discussion on a Chiefs board related to a player heavily involved in trade talks and how he contrasts with our biggest offseason acquisition.

If you have a problem with this content being under that thread title you're welcome to taste me.

ToxSocks 08-27-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14411968)
Who the **** cares. We got an elite pass rusher that can defend the run.

WE care, PGM.

We care.

Let the debate continue!

O.city 08-27-2019 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14411989)
I agree.

**** I'd almost go after Clowney right now if I was the chiefs. Pass rush might help mask the CBs.

I thought about it

But apparently I’m to trade hapoy

Also, where’s my ****ing money? I’m gonna come **** up your other hand!

Lol

Pasta Little Brioni 08-27-2019 05:12 PM

O has had a Clownety boner for years now

SAUTO 08-27-2019 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14411996)
I thought about it

But apparently I’m to trade hapoy

Also, where’s my ****ing money? I’m gonna come **** up your other hand!

Lol

ROFL still in my pocket.

I've got appointments tomorrow north and then headed farther north after that.


I'll keep it safe for you though:evil:

Hey maybe I'll go for a cruise Monday and come see you. Surely the meat place will be open on labor day, right? I could pick up some steaks and brats while I'm down...

staylor26 08-27-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14411978)
There you go again.

You can make a fair argument for better rusher. Probably.

There is NO argument for better player. Period.

You have to just completely reject reality and substitute your own to disregard Clowney being a superior run defender. He just is - dudes a monster against the run and for a fanbase holding out Clark's generally above average run defense as elite because he's not Dee Ford, it sure is odd to see Clowney's demonstrable superiority there being hand-waived...

I forgot to add Clark also has almost twice the amount of turnovers (FF’s/INT’s) as well.

But we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I don’t think the difference in run defense is any bigger than the difference in pass rush. At the very least, it’s close enough to go with the better pass rusher.

I mean at the end of the day Clowney hasn’t reached double digit sacks. That’s concerning when you’re talking elite pass rusher money combined with the injury concerns.

BossChief 08-27-2019 05:26 PM

I wonder what kind of $ Clowney wants.

He fired his agent, so maybe that was because he was unrealistic.

I’d gladly flip em KPass, Okafor, Hyde and a conditional pick for Clowney.

BossChief 08-27-2019 05:28 PM

Clowney
Nnadi
Jones
Clark

That’s pressure all day without blitzing.


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