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RustShack 02-03-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5454016)
The resident Football gods point to the Ryan argument as their only claim to fame. You guys have used this line more often than Charlie Sheen using his favorite whore. Enough already! Matt Ryan was a gamble that high by all available evidence at the time. Atlanta rolled the dice and hit snake eyes with it. That's all. I predicted that Clady was a good choice for us and look how I was right. But this is the 1st time I have come anywhere close to using it to argue my Football prowess. GROW THE F**K UP!

How about Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer who put up identical stats to Stafford? Are the two guys who physically compare to Stafford going to be shitty NFL QB's too?

beach tribe 02-03-2009 12:06 PM

I'm really tired of people saying that Cassel performed almost the same as Brady, and compare his season to Brady's first. Brady wasn't throwing to Randy Moss, and Wes Welker his first season. You cannot compare the two. With the same cast Brady threw 50 fuqin TDs. The production is nowhere near the same. Take Moss, and Welker away from Cassel, and he does shit IMO.

Frankie 02-03-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5453970)
face it, hes the worst top round QB to come out since Alex Smith

I'm afraid you MAY be right.

RustShack 02-03-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5454028)
I,m really tired of people saying that Cassel performed almost the same as Brady, and compare his season to Brady's first. Brady wasn't throwing to Randy Moss, and Wes Welker his first season. You cannot compare the two. With the same cast Brady threw 50 fuqin TDs. The production is nowhere near the same. Take Moss, and Welker away from Cassel, and he does shit IMO.

You can't argue with the resident reeruns.

RustShack 02-03-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5454030)
I'm afraid you MAY be right.

If Alex Smith is who they remind you of then you are further proving why your an idiot and your opinion doesn't matter.

DaKCMan AP 02-03-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5454028)
I,m really tired of people saying that Cassel performed almost the same as Brady, and compare his season to Brady's first. Brady wasn't throwing to Randy Moss, and Wes Welker his first season. You cannot compare the two. With the same cast Brady threw 50 fuqin TDs. The production is nowhere near the same. Take Moss, and Welker away from Cassel, and he does shit IMO.

HEY!!!!!!!! Don't you realize that Cassel didn't have Laurence Maroney!!!!!!1111111!!!!1!!!!!?!?!?(#!!!!!


Oh, wait.... you mean the Patriots actually had a stronger rushing offense in 2008 than in both 2007 & 2006? Really? Oh, well nevermind then..

Frankie 02-03-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5454010)
Nice. Make a fallacious claim and pass it as fact. When it's questioned, refuse to back it up. ROFL

I'm still waiting for you to tell me the last time a team traded out of the #3 overall selection.

Finally, you claim to have followed and observed the NFL for a good long time. Honestly, it doesn't show. At all.

Obviously you have watched the NFL for a few years. Wow, to have gained all that knowledge in that short a time.

Frankie 02-03-2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5454014)
Are you a politician?

No, a realist.

RustShack 02-03-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5454046)
No, a realist.

Maybe a real dumbass.

DaKCMan AP 02-03-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5454046)
No, a realist.

ROFL

ChiefRon 02-03-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5454046)
No, a realist.

A realist? Expecting us to trade out of #3?

Seriously?!?

Frankie 02-03-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5454027)
How about Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer who put up identical stats to Stafford? Are the two guys who physically compare to Stafford going to be shitty NFL QB's too?

I did not watch Cutler, but I did Palmer througout his college years I always wanted him for the Chiefs and did not jump on his bandwagon in his senior year. Let me repeat, I WATCHED HIM. What I saw was not only physical talent, but leadership and maturity. I began this past season targetting Stafford as my future pick for the Chiefs in case Croyle failed. I was quite excited about him. Unfortunately what I saw when I WATCHED HIM cooled me off about him quite a bit. What I saw, unfortunately, was someone halfway between Carson Palmer and Ryan Leaf. That to me indicates too much of a gamble at 3.

DeezNutz 02-03-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5453968)
I have seen many trades done that way.

All right. Name one.

Look, you backed yourself into a bit of a corner with this statement. Just admit that you probably ****ed up and move on.

We've all been there from time to time.

For the record, the last time I remember a team trading out of a top 3 pick was in 1990. Atlanta traded out of the #1 pick with Indianapolis, and the Colts selected Jeff George.

RustShack 02-03-2009 12:20 PM

Palmer's junior year: 2,717yds, 58.6%, 13 TD, and 12 int
Palmer's senior year:3,942 yards, 63.2%, 33 TDs and 10 int

Cutler's junior year: 1844yds, 61%, 10 TD, 5 int, 134.81 rating
Cutler's senior year: 3073yds, 59.1%, 21 TD, 9 int, 126.07 rating

Stafford's junior year: 3209yds, 61.1%, 22TD, 9int, 153.17 rating

Frankie 02-03-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5454038)
If Alex Smith is who they remind you of then you are further proving why your an idiot and your opinion doesn't matter.

The tried and true recourse of one without a strong case. Start calling your counterpart names to shitcover your own lack of confidence in your argument. I hope you feel better now.


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