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DJJasonp 08-03-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 15023154)
https://youtu.be/hX6uaNbU0aU

Can't get the embedded link on the phone. Enjoy nevertheless.

Thanks for this.

Booger McFarland broke down the event quite nicely!

MGRS13 08-03-2020 08:18 AM

I like Lamar I really do. Liked him in college. Like watching him now. He’s fun makes the game fun. That said he’s not even in the same universe as mahomes. It’s unfair to compare him to what looks like a once in a generation player in mahomes. That same d it’s gonna be tougher for Lamar this year. More teams will play him like Tennessee did. It’s f you watch anything from last year teams playing Baltimore would heavy cover the outside as the f The Wr were capable of anything. It’s like every coach playing them was sure that was the game Lamar was going to become a prototypical nfl QB. Tennessee plugged the middle dedicated heavy coverage to the tight ends and loaded up against the run. Baltimore is going to see a lot of that early. If Lamar wants to continue to progress he’s gonna have to out Alex smith his own brain. Learn to read coverage quicker and throw more outside. Should be fun to watch

BigRedChief 08-03-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15097967)
Thanks for this.

Booger McFarland broke down the event quite nicely!

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chiefzilla1501 08-03-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 15098005)
I like Lamar I really do. Liked him in college. Like watching him now. He’s fun makes the game fun. That said he’s not even in the same universe as mahomes. It’s unfair to compare him to what looks like a once in a generation player in mahomes. That same d it’s gonna be tougher for Lamar this year. More teams will play him like Tennessee did. It’s f you watch anything from last year teams playing Baltimore would heavy cover the outside as the f The Wr were capable of anything. It’s like every coach playing them was sure that was the game Lamar was going to become a prototypical nfl QB. Tennessee plugged the middle dedicated heavy coverage to the tight ends and loaded up against the run. Baltimore is going to see a lot of that early. If Lamar wants to continue to progress he’s gonna have to out Alex smith his own brain. Learn to read coverage quicker and throw more outside. Should be fun to watch

Yeah, defenses last year were built to stop the pass. Mahomes broke the league 2 years ago. How many years have defenses been planning around the spread with fast defenders with range. So guys like Goff and Rodgers regressed while running backs like Derrick Henry soared.

Defenses won't let teams keep running down their throats. Of course the league wants to stop mahomes but id bet their top offseason priority is stopping run offenses like SF and Baltimore. Good for mahomes, bad for lamar.

Wallcrawler 09-28-2020 09:54 PM

Lamar Jackson 0-3 against Mahomes.

0-5 in starts where the Ravens go down 10+

1 win where Lamar has 30+ pass attempts.

Great athlete, great runner, TRASH quarterback when it matters.

Chiefspants 09-28-2020 09:58 PM

I will completely revise my previous takes in the thread.

The Chiefs rolled out the Titans formula on defense and Lamar was absolutely toasted JUST like he was last season. Until Lamar figures out how to win/come back down 2 possessions, they have a very real ceiling.

The Ravens also completely undervalued receivers in the Lamar era -- which doesn't matter in their offense... until they do. You're not piecing together a comeback with tight ends and the WR crew that they have. Even in their scoring drives today, you can't require a 7 minute drive to score when down by multiple scores in the 2nd half.

staylor26 09-28-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15201826)
I will completely revise my previous takes in the thread.

The Chiefs rolled out the Titans formula on defense and Lamar was absolutely toasted JUST like he was last season. Until Lamar figures out how to win/come back down 2 possessions, they have a very real ceiling.

The Ravens also completely undervalued receivers in the Lamar era -- which doesn't matter in their offense... until they do. You're not piecing together a comeback with tight ends and the WR crew that they have. Even in their scoring drives today, you can't require a 7 minute drive to score when down by multiple scores in the 2nd half.

Eh they took one in the 1st last year.

KC_Connection 09-28-2020 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14727437)
I would say the primary difference between the two is that Baltimore's QB can't actually throw a football.

This remains the case. If you force him into a situation where he actually has to throw accurately down the field he can’t do it.

POND_OF_RED 09-28-2020 10:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No, let them keeping ranking him #4 in the league.....we love it <a href="https://t.co/Q9am7rt4mS">https://t.co/Q9am7rt4mS</a></p>&mdash; Brittany Matthews (@brittanylynne8) <a href="https://twitter.com/brittanylynne8/status/1310777098009751552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

*Q’ing myself in multiple threads because I’m drunk and this needs to be shared. Patrick is hungry!

Chiefspants 09-28-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15201848)
Eh they took one in the 1st last year.

I see that, but I don't know how they didn't look at their crew last year and add a WR in the offseason. Emmanuel Sanders completely transformed the Niners O last year and a player like that adds a dimension to the Ravens offense when playing behind that they just do not have right now. The Chiefs looked more than happy to let them take 13 minutes off the clock in their scoring drives in the 2nd half.

smithandrew051 09-28-2020 10:13 PM

This is really who Jackson is. He consistently can’t pass the ball effectively against quality opponents, bbbuuuutttttt...

The Ravens have to pay him, right? You can’t trade an MVP or let him walk in FA?

They’re going to regret paying him.

Chiefspants 09-28-2020 10:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lamar Jackson admits the Chiefs are the Ravens &quot;kryptonite.&quot; Said they pretty much had same defensive game plan as the Titans did in the playoff game.</p>&mdash; Jeff Zrebiec (@jeffzrebiec) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffzrebiec/status/1310787743203635200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lamar even admits it. The Chiefs just rolled out the Titans plan on D and dared the Ravens to beat it. It reminds me of how the teams copied the Patriots 2019 AFCCG against us last season and were rolling us... until Pennel (and the team gelled to Spags scheme) I just don't think they added a Pennel like difference maker to their offense that can make an impact like that.

PHOG 09-28-2020 10:20 PM

Lamar Jackson isn't a pimple on Patrick Mahomes ass.

Eleazar 09-28-2020 10:29 PM

Jackson's game consists almost entirely of hype

RockChalk 09-28-2020 10:34 PM

He will be a backup by the 2026 NFL Season - Week 1, if not sooner


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