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New World Order 09-18-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13744669)
I heard from a friend who knows the Chiefs training staff that if we push this thread to 1000 posts, Eric Berry will start practicing again.

Well my cousins's girlfriend's brother's friend knows Berry and he said if we push this thread to 10000 posts, Eric Berry will start practicing again.

Mother****erJones 09-18-2018 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13744790)
I never thought I’d miss Sorenson so much, but he alone would be a significant upgrade. Between him, Berry, and Parker we’d look much better at S going into the playoffs.

Ya, I’m no fan of Sorensen, but he’s better than Murray and is a solid 3rd or 4th safety. Problem is that’s it. He’s good at blitzing and used sparingly. Definitely not a starter

BlackOp 09-18-2018 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13744791)
What happens once the league figures him out and he has to adjust will be interesting.
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I dont get the vibe from Mahomes the he's a QB that DCs will suddenly figure out...He just has too good of a feel for the game and possibly the best arm in maybe forever. Improv QBs cant be taken out of a game...they are making plays in real-time and adapting. He is the polar opposite of Alex Smith...where once one little thing is taken out his equation, he short circuits.

Real generational QBs...Ben, Brady, Brees, Rodgers produce every season. From the limited amount of time watching Mahomes...he's essentially doing what he did in college just with better coaches/surrounding cast.

Rasputin 09-18-2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13744834)
I dont get the vibe from Mahomes the he's a QB that DCs will suddenly figure out...He just has too good of a feel for the game and possibly the best arm in maybe forever. Improv QBs cant be taken out of a game...they are making plays in real-time and adapting. He is the polar opposite of Alex Smith...where once one little thing is taken out his equation, he short circuits.

Real generational QBs...Ben, Brady, Brees, Rodgers produce every season. From the limited amount of time watching Mahomes...he's essentially doing what he did in college just with better coaches/surrounding cast.

I agree with this plus each game he gains confidence as if he isn't confident enough because he is but he has control over this offense and already shows he dictates to the defense what he wants them to do with his eyes. Those are veteran moves not a lot of veterans can do as effective as he does.

His timing is impeccable even if defense thinks they figure him out they don't match his skills in timing and the ball gets out with authority to our guys to catch and make plays.


We haven't seen nothing yet and i'm excited for the mad scientist plays after our bye week.

Teams need to play zone and not get caught up watching our offense shift change and they can't go man on man with Tyreek.

NJChiefsFan 09-18-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13744600)
I don’t blame Dorsey for the Houston or Berry deals...but there were definitely signs that Berry was a huge risk signing.

Can you imagine how good this team would be if Houston and Berry were giving us the best years of their careers like the year preceding their extensions.

This is a dynasty with those 2 playing like they’re in their prime and Mahomes at QB.

If we got Berry and Houston to come even marginally close to their abilities this year and get even average play out of our #2 and 3 corners, we would be looking really good. I just don't know what Houston's new ceiling is and who knows if Berry can be healthy.

I think if Berry is healthy he still can play to or close to form.

Mother****erJones 09-19-2018 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13744600)
I don’t blame Dorsey for the Houston or Berry deals...but there were definitely signs that Berry was a huge risk signing.

Can you imagine how good this team would be if Houston and Berry were giving us the best years of their careers like the year preceding their extensions.

This is a dynasty with those 2 playing like they’re in their prime and Mahomes at QB.

I one 100% blame him for the Houston contract. He should've signed him early and saved KC $30 million. I don't blame him fully for the Berry deal because Berry was coming off cancer, so that's a tough one to just hand out a new deal to a player under those circumstances. Clearly he pissed off players from Pioli regime and Peters because they weren't at OTAs last year. I don't have any ill will towards Houston or Berry. Achilles tear happens to players i.e. DJ. Houston's ACL injury was bad luck because he was leg whipped by Ron Parker in the Buffalo game. I do blame the team for the whole debacle of the late surgery.

htismaqe 09-19-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13744759)
Tell us again how this D is one player away from being Super Bowl caliber, homer of homers LMAO

What do you mean? This D is one new defensive coordinator away from being Super Bowl caliber.

htismaqe 09-19-2018 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13744768)
It won't be super bowl caliber but could be good enough considering the front seven is vastly improved from what it was and getting Berry back and Sorensen back as the 3rd or 4th safety is solid where he belongs. They won't be awesome but should be a lot better than they are now. That's not counting what the pass rush could look like if KC gets more from Speaks or KPass as the season goes on. Then you throw in a dime backer hybrid guy like O'Daneil, and suddenly gives KC a much improved defense from last season.

Is there any reason at this point to trust they'll get more out of KPass, Speaks, or DOD?

Those are some pretty significant "what ifs"...

htismaqe 09-19-2018 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13744782)
I never said that. This offense is well beyond “SB caliber”. You don’t need to have a “SB caliber” defense. You just need one that can get key stops like ours has the past two games. Will that possibly get tougher to do? Maybe. That’s why I think the addition of Berry (along with Sorensen) can help offset that.

There’s absolutely no reason to think with the addition of Berry that we can’t beat anybody with this offense.

The whole thing about having a below average defense is it scares you about having to get in shootouts with great offenses. Well we just won two shootouts in the road against two of the best offenses in the league. What more proof do you need?

Now this I agree with. :clap:

The Franchise 09-19-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13744791)
They may be Superbowl caliber if Mahomes keeps playing out of his mind. He's having a greater impact on opposing offenses than anybody on the defense possibly could. What happens once the league figures him out and he has to adjust will be interesting.

In any case, clearly the 2017 team was one player away from beating the Steelers.

Figures out what exactly? This isn’t a gimmick offense. Those throws on Sunday? You can’t stop those.

Red Dawg 09-19-2018 08:13 AM

He looks like a special player to me. You can see it and feel it. I never bought the Watkins hype and felt he would come down to earth. Right now some just don't know what to make of Mahomes. He's looked to good to be true and he won't always kill every team but he's going to be really good. I'd put a pay check on it.

Eleazar 09-19-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13745121)
What do you mean? This D is one new defensive coordinator away from being Super Bowl caliber.

What? Berry coming back is all we need. To the 'Ship :clap:

ToxSocks 09-19-2018 10:41 AM

We need Berry to practice today.

The injury to this point has bothered me. And honestly, if he misses this week too it wouldn't bother me.

I'd rather he be right for the 2nd half of the season than be broken and risk another injury for the entirety of the season.

Marcellus 09-19-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13745510)
We need Berry to practice today.

The injury to this point has bothered me. And honestly, if he misses this week too it wouldn't bother me.

I'd rather he be right for the 2nd half of the season than be broken and risk another injury for the entirety of the season.


This is why they aren't hurrying him, there is nothing to be gained from it.

And if he isn't healthy enough to play, there is nothing to be gained from it.

And before another dumbass brings up PUP, Berry was not PUP eligible as he participated in training camp.

htismaqe 09-19-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13745495)
What? Berry coming back is all we need. To the 'Ship :clap:

I'm not convinced Berry is THE answer but he's got to be a big part of it. I mentioned in another thread but if they're running 2 deep instead of single high, that's something Berry will instantly fix.


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