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Donger 03-01-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 14819788)
Not even TOS?!

No, but I have seen the movies by the original cast.

Mennonite 03-01-2020 01:23 PM

To hell with Picard then. You've got a lot of catching up to do. TNG and DS9 are my favorites, but TOS, VOY, and ENT all have some very good episodes. As well as a lot of bad ones.

Megatron96 03-01-2020 03:46 PM

TOS is the original series right? The whole second season is kinda bad, but you have to watch it because plot bits show up in all the other series. The first and third seasons are the best parts of TOS.

Wasn't a huge fan of the first couple seasons of either TNG or DS9, but they get better. Somewhere along the line, TNG starts doing way too many holodeck episodes, but overall the writing is decent to very good after the first couple seasons. With TNG the first episode or pilot is hard to sit through.

If you watch ENT, skip the last episode. It'll piss you off. Probably you can say the same thing about the last episode of VOY.

Mennonite 03-01-2020 03:52 PM

I agree with Megatron for the most part. Season 1 is by far the best of TOS. I think overuse of the holodeck really became noticeable with VOY.

The last episode of ENT is an abomination, but season 4 is probably the strongest overall.

Megatron96 03-01-2020 03:59 PM

I think I'm still about two episodes behind on Picard, but so far I like it. I was prepared to hate it, partly because I really decided that Discovery was mostly crap. But Picard has been steady. I might change my mind if they start with the holo-deck or time travel nonsense. And I'm not sure what I think about the Legolas character yet, but we'll see how he turns out.

By the way, are we to assume that 7-of-9 died in that last firefight? Because I'm just assuming they ended that scene the way they did to allow her to come back at some point. Kinda like Ziva in NCIS . . .

listopencil 03-01-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14820003)
I think I'm still about two episodes behind on Picard, but so far I like it. I was prepared to hate it, partly because I really decided that Discovery was mostly crap. But Picard has been steady. I might change my mind if they start with the holo-deck or time travel nonsense. And I'm not sure what I think about the Legolas character yet, but we'll see how he turns out.

By the way, are we to assume that 7-of-9 died in that last firefight? Because I'm just assuming they ended that scene the way they did to allow her to come back at some point. Kinda like Ziva in NCIS . . .




I assumed that Seven slaughtered her way out of there and went back to being a ranger.

Megatron96 03-01-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14820035)
I assumed that Seven slaughtered her way out of there and went back to being a ranger.

That was my first thought. But the scene reminded me a little of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, so I started wondering . . .

Megatron96 03-01-2020 06:57 PM

I just figured out what will happen with 7. She shot her way out of that bar, but is badly injured in the process. She makes it to a shuttle/ship and warps out of there, but has to put herself in suspended animation to survive her wounds. She is found by aliens (I know, big stretch, right?) and nurtured back to health. But the aliens 'reprogram' her a bit so that she becomes their champion. We'll see her return sometime next season with a new mission and a new look. Something classy like red and black hair and wearing a metal thong. Just the thong.

No, wait, also a metal bustier with nipple cups that shoot quantum phaser beams.

keg in kc 03-02-2020 04:21 PM

I'm about to commit blasphemy. After 2.5 years of hearing how awful discovery is, I finally started watching season 1 on Saturday. And now I can't stop. I'm not sure what the collective beef is, but it hasn't been anything like what I expected (i.e. the worst trek show ever).

I love the premise, I love the characters, I love the storyline (through episode 11, at least...). I don't love the Klingons but I can let that go. Yeah, canon issues with tech and so on, but that happens when you're shooting a show in 2016 based on something from the 1960s.

I was expecting this super preachy social justice show that was really pretty but empty under the surface, but what I've seen is a dark, mature take on star trek with a pretty damned compelling story.

I like it more than Picard, so far.

KC_Connection 03-02-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14821479)
I'm about to commit blasphemy. After 2.5 years of hearing how awful discovery is, I finally started watching season 1 on Saturday. And now I can't stop. I'm not sure what the collective beef is, but it hasn't been anything like what I expected (i.e. the worst trek show ever).

I love the premise, I love the characters, I love the storyline (through episode 11, at least...). I don't love the Klingons but I can let that go. Yeah, canon issues with tech and so on, but that happens when you're shooting a show in 2016 based on something from the 1960s.

I was expecting this super preachy social justice show that was really pretty but empty under the surface, but what I've seen is a dark, mature take on star trek with a pretty damned compelling story.

I like it more than Picard, so far.

Hmm...you might have sold me on it.

Megatron96 03-02-2020 09:20 PM

Part of what I dislike about Discovery is that for the 4 billionth time we’re back in the Evil Federation universe. Chuck the social justice nonsense on top and top it off with the stupid new Klingons and I just got annoyed more with every episode. But if you can ignore that stuff, it’s okay.

unlurking 03-02-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14822024)
Part of what I dislike about Discovery is that for the 4 billionth time we’re back in the Evil Federation universe. Chuck the social justice nonsense on top and top it off with the stupid new Klingons and I just got annoyed more with every episode. But if you can ignore that stuff, it’s okay.

Still gotta get past the insanely annoying Burnam. Ugh. Even Tilly is a better character. Discovery season 1 was just terrible.

Frazod 03-02-2020 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 14822111)
Still gotta get past the insanely annoying Burnam. Ugh. Even Tilly is a better character. Discovery season 1 was just terrible.

My favorite character from Season 1 was Lorca, which should pretty much tell you how I feel about the rest of them.

listopencil 03-03-2020 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14822177)
My favorite character from Season 1 was Lorca, which should pretty much tell you how I feel about the rest of them.


Well...Lorca was the best thing about season one until they ruined his arc by
Spoiler!

Frazod 03-03-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14822234)
Well...Lorca was the best thing about season one until they ruined his arc by
Spoiler!

Yeah, I know. Right up until that I was thinking "finally, a Star Fleet captain with some balls." :shake:


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