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VAChief 11-21-2019 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14611272)
Any of these have an upside?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/stlcards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#stlcards</a> have selected Elehuris Montero, Jake Woodford, and RHP Alvaro Seijas.<br><br>Dominic Leone DFA to make room.</p>&mdash; Jeff Jones (@jmjones) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmjones/status/1197285617555648513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Montero for me has the most upside, but he didn't progress from Peoria to Springfield well so this next year will be interesting to follow to see if he can adjust. At Peoria he looked like a burgeoning stud then fell off the table last year.

Seijas doesn't really impress, certainly would be surprised if he continues as a starter. His stuff and his size projects more as a middle reliever.

Woodford could be a back end of the rotation guy. I'd be surprised if he could be any more than that, at least nothing in his minor league stats suggest otherwise. At one time I thought maybe he could be a Lance Lynn type, but that was a mirage. WHIP is a stat I really like as a predictor, and his are average to poor at best especially for someone who doesn't strike out hitters at high rate.

BigRedChief 11-21-2019 07:58 AM

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CardAnnals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CardAnnals</a> we decided to look back in history for other evidence of sign stealing and you’ll be shocked what we found. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/stlcards?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#stlcards</a> <a href="https://t.co/3byqzuTkbe">pic.twitter.com/3byqzuTkbe</a></p>&mdash; CardsCards (@StlCardsCards) <a href="https://twitter.com/StlCardsCards/status/1197497809408339970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Pasta Little Brioni 11-21-2019 02:36 PM

Laaaaaame

Marco Polo 11-21-2019 05:03 PM

Purchased Cards/Cubs tickets for the two games in London next summer. Let's just hope they win at least one to make it worth my while.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-21-2019 06:26 PM

Leone gave the Cards 64 IP for -0.1 WAR. What a ****ing turd. How do you lose a Randal Grichuk trade?

BigRedChief 12-10-2019 11:51 PM

I guess we got Flaherty for 4 more years and that’s it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source confirms: Cole to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Yankees?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Yankees</a>, nine years, $324M. First reported: <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonHeyman</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1204627245320458240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 12-11-2019 07:07 AM

Someone reported the cards were interested in trading for David price

Yay I guess?

George Liquor 12-11-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14649623)
Someone reported the cards were interested in trading for David price

Yay I guess?

Makes sense, this FO loves it some aging superstars.

Miles 12-11-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14649673)
Makes sense, this FO loves it some aging superstars.

Was thinking the same. Checks a lot of boxes including very high salary and declining velocity.

O.city 12-11-2019 08:28 AM

Pretty much

It's hilarious they always talk about keeping powder dry and cant spend on a big player, yet if you added up all the shitty deals, it would equal that big player.

DJ's left nut 12-11-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14649684)
Pretty much

It's hilarious they always talk about keeping powder dry and cant spend on a big player, yet if you added up all the shitty deals, it would equal that big player.

Cant afford/justify paying Bryce Harper $25 million/yr through age 36 while still getting his prime seasons.

Totally cool with paying Paul Goldschmidt $27 million/yr through age 36 WITHOUT getting his prime seasons, but only after giving up significant prospect capital. Oh, and then getting into the market for David Price at $31 million/yr through age 36 coming off an injury plagued disaster of a season.

This front office is unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. Rendon's going to get probably 5-6 million/season more than Harper and he's nowhere near the long-term asset Harper would've been.

But Mozeliak "couldn't put all his eggs in one basket" so we'll just roll Fowler, Bader and Lane Thomas as our outfield. But hey, I'm sure Goldy will save the day!

O.city 12-11-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14649709)
Cant afford/justify paying Bryce Harper $25 million/yr through age 36 while still getting his prime seasons.

Totally cool with paying Paul Goldschmidt $27 million/yr through age 36 WITHOUT getting his prime seasons, but only after giving up significant prospect capital. Oh, and then getting into the market for David Price at $31 million/yr through age 36 coming off an injury plagued disaster of a season.

This front office is unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. Rendon's going to get probably 5-6 million/season more than Harper and he's nowhere near the long-term asset Harper would've been.

But Mozeliak "couldn't put all his eggs in one basket" so we'll just roll Fowler, Bader and Lane Thomas as our outfield. But hey, I'm sure Goldy will save the day!

That's the thing, the whole eggs in a basket argument doesn't hold water when you end up blowing all that capitol on 4 guys that suck anyway.

O.city 12-11-2019 12:18 PM

Rockies will listen on arenado

Let’s do that

VAChief 12-11-2019 02:16 PM

Saw a CBS writer calling for a Lindor to Cards (for DeJong, ONeill, and Edman). I don't think that would do it, but if it would I would pull that trigger even if he is a possible free agent in 2022.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...huge-signings/

duncan_idaho 12-11-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 14650494)
Saw a CBS writer calling for a Lindor to Cards (for DeJong, ONeill, and Edman). I don't think that would do it, but if it would I would pull that trigger even if he is a possible free agent in 2022.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...huge-signings/


Not even close.

Dylan Carlson is the name that gets that done.


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