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BigRedChief 11-08-2019 09:02 AM

DJ, Hamas or anyone in the know............. Does Albert get credit for developing the Astros hitters or was it just natural talent or a little of both? Can he really improve our way less talented hitting?


https://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...950d59c25.html

DJ's left nut 11-08-2019 09:08 AM

{shrug}

I suspect it's largely organizational. The franchise, top to bottom, has embraced some of the sorts of tools that many Cardinals players have resisted. The swing vests and knob trackers and things like that are ingrained throughout the Astros organization.

You get on board or you get gone. That or you're just a guy like Alvarez who's a natural hitter and doesn't need it.

But this shit like Harrison Bader flailing at breaking pitches but resisting changes in coaching? Kid would've just been buried in Houston until he got with the program.

It's gonna take awhile for Albert to have an influence here, IMO. Because it's going to take an organizational shift from top to bottom.

BigRedChief 11-08-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14581244)
{shrug}

I suspect it's largely organizational. The franchise, top to bottom, has embraced some of the sorts of tools that many Cardinals players have resisted. The swing vests and knob trackers and things like that are ingrained throughout the Astros organization.

You get on board or you get gone. That or you're just a guy like Alvarez who's a natural hitter and doesn't need it.

But this shit like Harrison Bader flailing at breaking pitches but resisting changes in coaching? Kid would've just been buried in Houston until he got with the program.

It's gonna take awhile for Albert to have an influence here, IMO. Because it's going to take an organizational shift from top to bottom.

Bader ain’t going to do shit to improve his approach at the plate. Complete denial about his inability to hit a breaking ball. Or recognize it’s going to end up in the dirt or in the other batters box. Look how defensive he is about a viva el birdos article for crissakes

Is Harrison Bader Broken? vivaelbirdos.com/

His public response:
It’s articles like this that continue to fuel the fire .. There is nothing ‘broken’ about my game only work to be done .. More importantly NOTHING can break my work ethic .. 2020 baby ‼️�� .. *throws article in virtual trashcan*

DJ's left nut 11-13-2019 10:06 AM

Shildt with some much deserved hardware - takes home NL MOY.

But yeah - we should totally fire the guy.

PGM man - dude's just never right about anything. Tommy Pham and Mike Shildt are the guys we should be getting rid of. Sure thing, champ.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2019 10:08 AM

Knew exactly what was posted before I even opened the thread. Asshurt much?

DJ's left nut 11-13-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14593690)
Knew exactly what was posted before I even opened the thread. Asshurt much?

The Cardinals manager won the MOY and it was posted to a Cardinals thread.

I mean yeah - I would HOPE you would know what was posted before you opened the thread. As the most vocal and completely nonsensical of his detractors, I would expect even YOU would have the common sense to realize that you're gonna get called out when MLB honors the guy you wanted to fire. For...reasons.

But yeah - the team got fisted by a squad that was so hot it beat a team many felt just put together the best overall regular season in modern baseball history. And that's Mike Shildt's fault.

You've not been able to actually articulate an argument against this guy ever, so why start now?

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2019 10:24 AM

I just fisted you on Clowney to no rebuttal, so you posted this ROFL

DJ's left nut 11-13-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14593729)
I just fisted you on Clowney to no rebuttal, so you posted this ROFL

You are wrong on multiple topics, including Clowney. Not my fault you don't understand the games you purport to follow.

Marco Polo 11-13-2019 11:06 AM

Happy for Shildt, still think the rest of the front office are in over their heads with the stupid contracts they've passed up.

On another note, is anyone else thinking of going to London for the Cards/Cubs next year? Tickets go on sale next week and I plan on going.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2019 11:09 AM

Eh I have hard enough motivation to drive to a damn game much less fly overseas for one ROFL

Miles 11-13-2019 02:22 PM

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George Liquor 11-13-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 14593805)
Happy for Shildt, still think the rest of the front office are in over their heads with the stupid contracts they've passed up.

On another note, is anyone else thinking of going to London for the Cards/Cubs next year? Tickets go on sale next week and I plan on going.

I thought long and hard about going to the London series, but in the end, I just dont want to go to London.

BigRedChief 11-13-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14593685)
Shildt with some much deserved hardware - takes home NL MOY.

He changed the culture of the team. Improved the defense and base running. Well deserved.

I hate his BS everything is rosy crap every time he speaks to the press. But, every NFZl coach fiesvthe same thing. And since the leaked video, we know he’s different when it’s just him and the team.

Maybe it will give him some leverage to push Mo and Dewitt to do something every once in a while like Larussa would do on occasion. LMAO

who am I kidding..... :sulk:

BigRedChief 11-14-2019 05:48 AM

Bunch of ****ing cheaters


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BigRedChief 11-20-2019 08:22 PM

Any of these have an upside?

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