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ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16960019)
If he goes anywhere other than the Chiefs....I want him on the Ravens. Cincy needs more competition and I want the Ravens to beat the shit out of them.

If i had to pick between him going to the Ravens or Bills, yeah i'd rather he to Baltimore.

Allen throwing to Diggs, Kincaid and Hopkins would be a headache.

Skyy God 05-26-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16959968)
Not sure our WR room is big enough for both DHop and John Ross

Lol.

Chris Meck 05-26-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16960017)
Hmm. This happens literally two days after ARI FO tells the local media that Hopkins is an important part of the team and will be a Card in 2023.

Garbage franchise is garbage.

DJ's left nut 05-26-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16959976)
It'll come down to $$$ and i have a hard time believing we'd outbid the Ravens or out desperate the Bills.

And that's ultimately the question.

Would he want to come here as the #2 behind Kelce, Buffalo as the #2 behind Diggs or Baltimore where a #2 is throwing him the ball?

I think at this stage of the game his contract is really about setting him up for the NEXT contract, unless he finds some team willing to go long-term on him now. That doesn't seem terribly likely given the state of everyones caps this time of year.

So it's about the best opportunity for a premier platform season, no? Well he just saw what an inferior version of him would do in this offense with JJSS. That's a pretty good baseline for him to work from, no?

If he's looking to maximize his $$$ over the next 12 months, I agree - he's going somewhere else. If he's looking to max it out over the next 36 months? I think there's a pretty good argument to come to KC for the 2023 season.

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960025)
I mean not to be a dick but I have a hard time calling someone a franchise QB when they aren't even the best QB in their division.

That term is thrown around way to much, apparently there are 14 franchise QB's these days.

There's a lot of good QB's in the league right now. More than i can recall, ever.

ForeverIowan 05-26-2023 11:25 AM

Considering if we dont get him he goes to a huge competitor: Bills, Chargers, Ravens and to a lesser extent Eagles. You have to make a strong play for him. Not only do you get a future HOF receiver but you keep him AWAY from a major competitor.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16960029)
Franchise QB has nothing to do with being the best in the division.

Lamar Jackson is never going to win a SB, there we go.

staylor26 05-26-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16960030)
If i had to pick between him going to the Ravens or Bills, yeah i'd rather he to Baltimore.

Allen throwing to Diggs, Kincaid and Hopkins would be a headache.

Not even worried about Kincaid in year 1.

TEs rarely hit the ground running as rookies, and he's behind Knox on the depth chart.

kcgreene 05-26-2023 11:27 AM

If Burt could arrange the pitch on getting him for 1 year to set up for one last contract... there isn't anyone who would set him up better than Andy and Pat.

Boxer_Chief 05-26-2023 11:27 AM

It’ll be the bills or chiefs. Those are the two he hinted at in the video circulating a month or so ago. Just depends on how much veach thinks we need him.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16960038)
Not even worried about Kincaid in year 1.

TEs rarely hit the ground running as rookies, and he's behind Knox on the depth chart.

They basically said he's not a TE, they are going to use him as a "big slot" and he's not going to lineup as a traditional TE much at all.

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16960033)

So it's about the best opportunity for a premier platform season, no? Well he just saw what an inferior version of him would do in this offense with JJSS. That's a pretty good baseline for him to work from, no?

If he's looking to maximize his $$$ over the next 12 months, I agree - he's going somewhere else. If he's looking to max it out over the next 36 months? I think there's a pretty good argument to come to KC for the 2023 season.

You'd think so but.....i think these players see lesser teams and lesser QB's such as the Ravens as just as good of a chance to do the same when the paycheck is bigger.

Write a bigger paycheck and Hopkins will convince himself that he has every bit the same shot to do that with Lamar as he does with Mahomes.

Womble 05-26-2023 11:27 AM

We signed this piece of shit yet?

RunKC 05-26-2023 11:28 AM

Well this is a good point. If he wants to go somewhere where he will get a lot of exposure and be the undeniable #1 WR it’s with us. Could really cash in next Spring in that scenario.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Totally speculative — but a short-term deal with the Chiefs would make so much sense to me. The fact Hopkins is available via free agency shows you his value needs to be improved. Nowhere better to do it right now than KC. Win-win. <a href="https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj">https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/1662144528264970260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 05-26-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960041)
They basically said he's not a TE, they are going to use him as a "big slot" and he's not going to lineup as a traditional TE much at all.

Kind of irrelevant to the first point though.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:28 AM

Personally I'd like to sign him because then we get to watch every other fan base go "ah ****in shit" which amuses me.

FlaChief58 05-26-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960037)
Lamar Jackson is never going to win a SB, there we go.

Yep, hard to win championships when you can't stay healthy

kcgreene 05-26-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16960035)
Considering if we dont get him he goes to a huge competitor: Bills, Chargers, Ravens and to a lesser extent Eagles. You have to make a strong play for him. Not only do you get a future HOF receiver but you keep him AWAY from a major competitor.

This. Not to mention, if we can land him, the gap between us and everyone else just gets that much wider.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16960047)
Kind of irrelevant to the first point though.

I was mainly responding to the he's behind Knox comment.

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16960045)
Well this is a good point. If he wants to go somewhere where he will get a lot of exposure and be the undeniable #1 WR it’s with us. Could really cash in next Spring in that scenario.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Totally speculative — but a short-term deal with the Chiefs would make so much sense to me. The fact Hopkins is available via free agency shows you his value needs to be improved. Nowhere better to do it right now than KC. Win-win. <a href="https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj">https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/1662144528264970260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, i think this is as obvious as it could be but....alas, money talks and changes perspectives.

TLO 05-26-2023 11:30 AM

1500 posts to bring him to KC.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

Dunerdr 05-26-2023 11:30 AM

Even at their age, Kelce and Dhop together.. sheesh.

FlaChief58 05-26-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by George Brett Statue (Post 16960055)
1500 posts to bring him to KC.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

In!

LagunaSWana 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16960035)
Considering if we dont get him he goes to a huge competitor: Bills, Chargers, Ravens and to a lesser extent Eagles. You have to make a strong play for him. Not only do you get a future HOF receiver but you keep him AWAY from a major competitor.

I agree, but every other team is thinking the same way. Hopkins to the Chiefs may be their worst nightmare, so one of those teams will pull out all the stops to prevent it from happening.

RunKC 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960041)
They basically said he's not a TE, they are going to use him as a "big slot" and he's not going to lineup as a traditional TE much at all.

They drafted him to be their version of Travis Kelce. We’ll see if that he can be that type of weapon…

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

He'd definitely be able to rebuild his value and have a legitimate shot at winning a ring with us.

Boxer_Chief 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 16959923)
The Chiefs will try to lowball him and he’ll wind up somewhere else. Buffalo? Carolina?

This is why we want dhop. For reerun fans of other teams to quiver in fear even more and pray we don’t get him. That is a good enough reason for me.

staylor26 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960053)
I was mainly responding to the he's behind Knox comment.

I think Shakir is a good bet to breakout if he gets that slot job, so I don't think that's a great plan either.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16960045)
Well this is a good point. If he wants to go somewhere where he will get a lot of exposure and be the undeniable #1 WR it’s with us. Could really cash in next Spring in that scenario.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Totally speculative — but a short-term deal with the Chiefs would make so much sense to me. The fact Hopkins is available via free agency shows you his value needs to be improved. Nowhere better to do it right now than KC. Win-win. <a href="https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj">https://t.co/l4QzxFOjuj</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffDarlington/status/1662144528264970260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Darlington has been riding the he needs to go to KC wagon since before the draft. He did a whole piece about it on ESPN and his personal view was Kansas City was far and away the best place for Hopkins.

Bowser 05-26-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16959935)
He'll be a Bill or a Raven.

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16959939)
My guess is the Ravens.

Didn't Jackson tell the front office he wanted OBJ and Hopkins both?

FloridaMan88 05-26-2023 11:33 AM

Just a reminder that he had 60+ receptions and 700+ yards receiving in half a season last year and most of that was with Colt McCoy at QB.

He may not be what he was, but Hopkins in the Chiefs offense with Mahomes and Andy’s schemes?

YES PLEASE.

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:34 AM

They could restructure Kelce's contract. It would give them around $7-8 million in cap space and make his cap hit next year around $19 million.

Wilson8 05-26-2023 11:34 AM

Release will not become official until 4:00 p.m. ET on Friday, so Arizona still has a chance to find a trade partner in the eleventh hour.

Dunerdr 05-26-2023 11:34 AM

I'm getting HORNEEEEE!

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16960069)
Didn't Jackson tell the front office he wanted OBJ and Hopkins both?

That was before they used their #1 on Flowers.

Bowser 05-26-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16960057)
Even at their age, Kelce and Dhop together.. sheesh.

Seriously

ForeverIowan 05-26-2023 11:35 AM

DHop to KC is an absolute worst nightmare scenario to the rest of the AFC. Go after the official dynasty and sort the rest out later. ZERO draft capital required. Go freaking get him!

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16960074)
Release will not become official until 4:00 p.m. ET on Friday, so Arizona still has a chance to find a trade partner in the eleventh hour.

That isn't happening..

DJ's left nut 05-26-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16960043)
You'd think so but.....i think these players see lesser teams and lesser QB's such as the Ravens as just as good of a chance to do the same when the paycheck is bigger.

Write a bigger paycheck and Hopkins will convince himself that he has every bit the same shot to do that with Lamar as he does with Mahomes.

They have agents.

Agents aren't stupid.

That said, Hopkins has had a fairly weird history with agents. I think he had one, fired him, got a deal done with houston, hired another one, got traded, fired that agent, got a new contract with Arizona and then hired a new agent.

So he may just be someone that pull all the levers and his agent simply reviews paperwork. If so, maybe you're right.

If not, perhaps wiser heads will talk to him about a long-term picture.

RunKC 05-26-2023 11:36 AM

It sure feels like the Cardinals are tanking. Hopkins gone, Baker wants out (and probably will), no Kyler for a lot of the season due to injury.

They could be on track to get Caleb Williams and if the Texans don’t improve it could be Marvin Harrison Jr

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16960081)
They have agents.

Agents aren't stupid.

That said, Hopkins has had a fairly weird history with agents. I think he had one, fired him, got a deal done with houston, hired another one, got traded, fired that agent, got a new contract with Arizona and then hired a new agent.

So he may just be someone that pull all the levers and his agent simply reviews paperwork. If so, maybe you're right.

If not, perhaps wiser heads will talk to him about a long-term picture.

He's a bit of a weird dude like he said he wanted a stable team because he's already had 4 different GM's in his career.

Boxer_Chief 05-26-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960076)
That was before they used their #1 on Flowers.

Just don’t see the ravens going for it at a hindrance to their number one pick plus signing obj. Could happen I’m just not believing it.

kcgreene 05-26-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by George Brett Statue (Post 16960055)
1500 posts to bring him to KC.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 16960085)
Just don’t see the ravens going for it at a hindrance to their number one pick plus signing obj. Could happen I’m just not believing it.

I don't believe it either, most GM's won't take a shit on a guy they just drafted with a really high pick.

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:38 AM

I wonder if they could talk him into a longer term contract. I know that's not Veach's MO but it would alleviate the need for a large cap hit this year and give Hopkins some security being with a competent organization.

Bowser 05-26-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960076)
That was before they used their #1 on Flowers.

True, but their receivers were ass last year. To go from Demarcus Robinson, Duvaernay, and the corpse of Desean Jackson to OBJ, Hopkins, and Flowers with Andrews at TE would be a damned nice upgrade.

I thought DHop would eventually be a Bill, but I can see this being a thing, too. Which would suck for us.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-26-2023 11:39 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You free now come on to the kingdom <a href="https://twitter.com/DeAndreHopkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DeAndreHopkins</a></p>&mdash; Charles Omenihu (@charless_94) <a href="https://twitter.com/charless_94/status/1662146242766422026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16960090)
True, but their receivers were ass last year. To go from Demarcus Robinson, Duvaernay, and the corpse of Desean Jackson to OBJ, Hopkins, and Flowers with Andrews at TE would be a damned nice upgrade.

I thought DHop would eventually be a Bill, but I can see this being a thing, too. Which would suck for us.

Rashod Bateman also returns from injury who they used on a 1 on aswell.

Devin Duvernay would be a really good player here, the talent isn't the problem at that spot.

FloridaMan88 05-26-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16960082)
It sure feels like the Cardinals are tanking. Hopkins gone, Baker wants out (and probably will), no Kyler for a lot of the season due to injury.

They could be on track to get Caleb Williams and if the Texans don’t improve it could be Marvin Harrison Jr

They could be in a position to draft Caleb Williams + MHJ and get additional draft capital by trading Kyler Murray.

One year of pain this year for an instant franchise reset next offseason.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16960096)
They could be in a position to draft Caleb Williams + MHJ and get additional draft capital by trading Kyler Murray.

One year of pain this year for an instant franchise reset next offseason.

They're taking on purpose, no question.

BigRedChief 05-26-2023 11:42 AM

obligatory, we sign this POS yet?

ChiefBlueCFC 05-26-2023 11:42 AM

Someone’s gonna offer DHop money KC can’t come close to matching. Gonna go ahead and keep my expectations in the necessary area: the floor.

Iconic 05-26-2023 11:43 AM

alr. now you can cue the ITS HAPPENING gifs

LETS ****ING GO BITCHES

Sassy Squatch 05-26-2023 11:44 AM

Cardinals are ****ing stupid. Not even designating this a post June 1 so all the dead money hits now. Wouldn't eat money to facilitate a trade but now they're outright cutting him.

MahomesMagic 05-26-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16959946)
He's likely going to Buffalo and it'll be another offseason where we hear incessantly about how the rest of the AFC has caught up to the Chiefs.

I don't understand how people keep linking Buffalo to DHop.

They just pushed 36 million of Allen and Von Miller's cap money into the future to get under the cap.

ptlyon 05-26-2023 11:46 AM

I just heard he got off a private jet at KCI and took an Uber to Mahomes house for a holiday cookout, sponsored by Hy vee

comochiefsfan 05-26-2023 11:46 AM

He is a great fit for what the receiving room needs.

A veteran, reliable presence. Would also likely be a good mentor to Toney, Skyy, Rice.

Would love to see this happen.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16960110)
Cardinals are ****ing stupid. Not even designating this a post June 1 so all the dead money hits now. Wouldn't eat money to facilitate a trade but now they're outright cutting him.

I mean if you are tanking on purpose wouldn't you want to eat the money now?

UChieffyBugger 05-26-2023 11:47 AM

DO IT VEEEEEAAACCCCHHHH!!

Bowser 05-26-2023 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16960110)
Cardinals are ****ing stupid. Not even designating this a post June 1 so all the dead money hits now. Wouldn't eat money to facilitate a trade but now they're outright cutting him.

Is it an "official" post-June 1 cut? Because otherwise, yeah, this is just dumb as hell.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16960111)
I don't understand how people keep linking Buffalo to DHop.

They just pushed 36 million of Allen and Von Miller's cap money into the future to get under the cap.

The other thing no one mentions is, having an equal WR may do more harm than good with Diggs who seems to constantly display attitude issues.

DJ's left nut 05-26-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960094)
Rashod Bateman also returns from injury who they used on a 1 on aswell.

Devin Duvernay would be a really good player here, the talent isn't the problem at that spot.

I'd be pretty content with the Ravens signing Hopkins and trading Bateman to us for a 4th rounder...

chiefzilla1501 05-26-2023 11:48 AM

I want a WR1 as much as the next person. But I'm also kind of rooting for buffalo to pay him big money only to fall short. Because they're in cap hell and this would plummet to the very depths of cap hell.

WhawhaWhat 05-26-2023 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16960110)
Cardinals are ****ing stupid. Not even designating this a post June 1 so all the dead money hits now. Wouldn't eat money to facilitate a trade but now they're outright cutting him.

They're tanking for Caleb Williams.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16960125)
I'd be pretty content with the Ravens signing Hopkins and trading Bateman to us for a 4th rounder...

The talent of the WR's has never been the issue......they'll find that out again this year.

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:49 AM

The top 10 teams in cap space are the Bears, Panthers, Lions, Colts, Packers, Cardinals, Texans, Bengals, Saints and Patriots. He's not going to any of those.

The Ravens have $11 million in cap space making them the most logical fit money wise.

The Bills have $1.4 million in cap space and none next year. They could cut/trade Ed Oliver and get cap space for this year but they'd still be ****ed next year.

Bowser 05-26-2023 11:49 AM

The comments from that tweet are great. "Can't spell Cardinals without the L"

Dante84 05-26-2023 11:49 AM

Technically they could still trade him before 4pm EST

Kiimo 05-26-2023 11:50 AM

We can't afford whatever he wants...BUT the Chiefs receiver room would be sick with Hopkins. You'd have Hopkins, Hopkins 2.0 in Rashee Rice both running deep patterns, MVS going yard, Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney crossing fools up in the short game and then Travis Kelce running free like a unicorn on meth

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16960069)
Didn't Jackson tell the front office he wanted OBJ and Hopkins both?

Yes.

MahomesMagic 05-26-2023 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16960125)
I'd be pretty content with the Ravens signing Hopkins and trading Bateman to us for a 4th rounder...

Yes please.

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16960136)
We can't afford whatever he wants...BUT the Chiefs receiver room would be sick with Hopkins. You'd have Hopkins, Hopkins 2.0 in Rashee Rice both running deep patterns, MVS going yard, Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney crossing fools up in the short game and then Travis Kelce running free like a unicorn on meth

There are ways to get him. It just all depends on whether Veach wants him bad enough to do it.

tk13 05-26-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16960090)
True, but their receivers were ass last year. To go from Demarcus Robinson, Duvaernay, and the corpse of Desean Jackson to OBJ, Hopkins, and Flowers with Andrews at TE would be a damned nice upgrade.

I thought DHop would eventually be a Bill, but I can see this being a thing, too. Which would suck for us.

It makes a ton of sense. Basically the same thing the Eagles did, put as much talent as you can around Hurts. Help out an elite running QB, but to Hurts credit as we all saw, he will make the clutch throws at key points to make that offense dangerous. We've never seen how Lamar does with WRs like this.

staylor26 05-26-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16960131)
The top 10 teams in cap space are the Bears, Panthers, Lions, Colts, Packers, Cardinals, Texans, Bengals, Saints and Patriots. He's not going to any of those.

The Ravens have $11 million in cap space making them the most logical fit money wise.

The Bills have $1.4 million in cap space and none next year. They could cut/trade Ed Oliver and get cap space for this year but they'd still be ****ed next year.

It would be pretty funny if after all this he signs with one of those teams. I wouldn't completely rule it out either.

The Franchise 05-26-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16960143)
It would be pretty funny if after all this he signs with one of those teams. I wouldn't completely rule it out either.

Pretty sure the only team that he has said he wasn't interested in was the Patriots but I could be misremembering that.

The Lions would be a sneaky good place for him to go.

Mecca 05-26-2023 11:53 AM

He could put up numbers on the Lions but it's the Lions.

And Belichick loves him but does he wanna go to a last place team?

ToxSocks 05-26-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960148)

And Belichick loves him but does he wanna go to a last place team?

Or play for Belichick.

At this stage of his career he may not want a militant HC.

I heard Hopkins is at that Julio Jones stage of his career where he hardly practices.

chiefs1111 05-26-2023 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960148)
He could put up numbers on the Lions but it's the Lions.

And Belichick loves him but does he wanna go to a last place team?

Bill O'Brien is the OC no chance he goes to the Pats

myselff77 05-26-2023 11:55 AM

If Mahomes really wants, him, it'll get done.

UChieffyBugger 05-26-2023 11:55 AM

Kc is the only real contender without a proven number one WR. Unless he's chasing the bag he'd crazy to go anywhere else imo.


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