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BleedingRed 06-17-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15711527)
LOL. ROFL

God, they aren't even the same length. How in **** did they get it to stay in?

I have no ****ing clue, but it was wedged in there and they said it didnt work for some reason...........

I've also had a CEO of a large company send me a single ram stick VIA envelope and asked to see if we could find files on it.

I have contracted with both SMB/ Large Corporations / and Government, and I'm never shocked by how ****ing horrible their IT is. I mean I've literally seen entire city government networks being a ****ing disaster.

htismaqe 06-17-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15711540)
I have no ****ing clue, but it was wedged in there and they said it didnt work for some reason...........

I've also had a CEO of a large company send me a single ram stick VIA envelope and asked to see if we could find files on it.

I have contracted with both SMB/ Large Corporations / and Government, and I'm never shocked by how ****ing horrible their IT is. I mean I've literally seen entire city government networks being a ****ing disaster.

Dude, I work with the federal government. They make a lot of municipalities look cutting edge.

Baby Lee 06-17-2021 11:30 AM

There's a difference between saying wrist straps are superfluous and saying concern over static potential is stupid.

If you have a strap, might as well use it. But if you don't want to track one down or purchase, as many have alluded without stating outright, . . . just be careful to account for static potential. Don't repair on carpet [and don't go shuffling all over carpet, then return right to the repair]. Don't wear a wooly pullover. Make lots of contact with the frame of the unit while operating. You can even fashion a 'strap' out of bare wire wrapped around your wrist and attached to the frame if you don't want to worry about. Best and easiest is to find a low static, low humidity environment, . . . AC and a hardwood table and floor is fine, wear simple clothes likes shorts and tee, and make plenty of 'grounding' contact with the frame before taking contact with semiconductor and IC parts.

007 06-17-2021 11:32 AM

This thread title needs changed.

eDave 06-17-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 15711589)
This thread title needs changed.

We are getting Lewdog ready for his Win11 upgrade.

007 06-17-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15711592)
We are getting Lewdog ready for his Win11 upgrade.


LMAO

PC repair 101

htismaqe 06-17-2021 11:39 AM

Windows Monterey.

BleedingRed 06-17-2021 12:11 PM

I will say this, the chip shortage is real. And finding machines with TPM is becoming impossible.

Otter 06-17-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15711489)
And probably avoid wearing a wool jacket. But yeah, beyond that, I've never used a strap in my life and haven't ever had a problem.

Don't listen to these guys! You want to wear a wool jacket, fuzzy slippers and perform this in a carpeted room.

Imon Yourside 06-17-2021 01:12 PM

What will Win 11 add that Win 10 can't do? Technically speaking just a facelift to look purty and make microshaft some money?

lewdog 06-17-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 15711589)
This thread title needs changed.

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 15711595)
LMAO

PC repair 101

Back off man.

So of us are ****ing morans!!!

vailpass 06-17-2021 04:35 PM

Just touch the case. Work on tile as opposed to carpet. You’re fine.

displacedinMN 06-17-2021 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15711423)
So how do you ground yourself when working on computers?

There is a joke in here somewhere?

BryanBusby 06-17-2021 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 15711761)
What will Win 11 add that Win 10 can't do? Technically speaking just a facelift to look purty and make microshaft some money?

I don't think they made much on W10 since it was a free upgrade.

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15711423)
So how do you ground yourself when working on computers?

Very carefully.

BleedingRed 06-17-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15712251)
I don't think they made much on W10 since it was a free upgrade.


Very carefully.

Oh man, so I don’t know how to explain this. But they made plenty, the OS is just the drug.

Basically if your not using the OS (Windows 10) than you are much more vulnerable to back doors etc. however if you are using it, you are making Microsoft money. Don’t think they are not selling your data like everyone else. With the latest update the pretense of location being unknown is gone. Windows 10 knows your geolocation and shows you the weather now.

Windows OS isn’t the money maker, but it is the gateway drug to giving Microsoft plenty of money.

BryanBusby 06-17-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15712378)
Oh man, so I don’t know how to explain this. But they made plenty, the OS is just the drug.

Basically if your not using the OS (Windows 10) than you are much more vulnerable to back doors etc. however if you are using it, you are making Microsoft money. Don’t think they are not selling your data like everyone else. With the latest update the pretense of location being unknown is gone. Windows 10 knows your geolocation and shows you the weather now.

Windows OS isn’t the money maker, but it is the gateway drug to giving Microsoft plenty of money.

What a weird ass sperg take lmao

BiLl gAtEs Is CaShInG iN oN mY bRoWsInG hIsToRy

BleedingRed 06-18-2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15712394)
What a weird ass sperg take lmao

BiLl gAtEs Is CaShInG iN oN mY bRoWsInG hIsToRy

Yeah.... it’s a fact.....

And lmao browsing history is the least of what they could be tracking. Please don’t comment until you understand the totality of what Microsoft is doing.

007 06-18-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15711773)
Back off man.

So of us are ****ing morans!!!


LMAO. True. JK.

Not really. ;)

lewdog 06-18-2021 01:50 PM

Got an anti static wrist band, waiting on RAM which won’t come until next week and have my wool coat ready to wear.

Am I missing anything?

BleedingRed 06-18-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15713073)
Got an anti static wrist band, waiting on RAM which won’t come until next week and have my wool coat ready to wear.

Am I missing anything?

Did you get RGB ram? How else will you slay pussy

lewdog 06-18-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15713151)
Did you get RGB ram? How else will you slay pussy

What the **** did you say to me?!?!?!?!

(No, really)

eDave 06-18-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15713171)
What the **** did you say to me?!?!?!?!

(No, really)

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...40853-copy.jpg

lewdog 06-18-2021 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15713204)

Just for looks?

eDave 06-18-2021 05:59 PM

Purely. And it won't get puss.

Chief Pagan 06-18-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15712378)
Oh man, so I don’t know how to explain this. But they made plenty, the OS is just the drug.

Basically if your not using the OS (Windows 10) than you are much more vulnerable to back doors etc. however if you are using it, you are making Microsoft money. Don’t think they are not selling your data like everyone else. With the latest update the pretense of location being unknown is gone. Windows 10 knows your geolocation and shows you the weather now.

Windows OS isn’t the money maker, but it is the gateway drug to giving Microsoft plenty of money.

I knew location blocking was a bit of a joke but when windows started showing my local temperature, I did check, and block Windows from knowing your location was checked.

But I guess Microsoft is to the point where they are willing to laugh in your face about that one.

lewdog 06-18-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15713293)
Purely. And it won't get puss.

Well that's good.........


because I'm up to my eyeballs in pussy, bro!!!!

eDave 06-19-2021 07:19 PM

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BleedingRed 06-19-2021 10:15 PM

Barf

I don’t know why they feel the need to follows apples UI

hometeam 06-20-2021 07:40 AM

likely just more spyware and mobile focused. Not seeing any reason they have given so far to upgrade. New UI? Cool. Will need to modify it to put it back to normal lol.

BleedingRed 06-20-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 15714541)
likely just more spyware and mobile focused. Not seeing any reason they have given so far to upgrade. New UI? Cool. Will need to modify it to put it back to normal lol.

Meanwhile the new UI looks like shit, I swear moving everything to the middle will be even more annoying going forward

vailpass 06-20-2021 09:43 AM

What’s wrong with WIN10?

hometeam 06-20-2021 10:39 AM

So was doing some more looking at this.

This is win10. They are just finally iterating it to an 11 version number, but it is literally just an update for 10. Everything internally in the operating system still says 10.

Preliminary mixed reviews in all types of workflow from basic desktop to workstation use to gaming. Its just marketing and an update.

Otter 06-20-2021 01:05 PM

I'm due for a clean install on a rainy weekend.

Here’s why Windows 11 will probably be a free upgrade from Windows 10

You probably heard by now, but Windows 11 is coming. It was originally supposed to be revealed during Microsoft’s June 24 “what’s next for Windows” event, but the secret was leaked early. You can now install an unofficial preview version of it if you want, though we would not recommend doing so.

That means there are all kinds of questions about the cost of Windows 11, and how you can end up getting it once things become official. We’re here to help, with a look at why we think Windows 11 will probably be a free upgrade.

The answer to that question is in the numbers. Microsoft last reported that Windows 10 runs on 1.3 billion devices around the world. That’s a lot of PCs, and if Microsoft were to open up an option for Windows 10 users to “upgrade” to Windows 11 for free, then there are chances of more people using it.

There’s plenty of reason why they might want to do this too. Remember when Windows 10 was a free upgrade for Windows 8 and Windows 7? Microsoft wanted to push people to a newer operating system, at no extra cost. Yet, they also wanted to slowly phase out older versions of Windows, but keep it in place for those who need it.

We’re already seeing pieces of that put into play. An updated support page mentioned that support for Windows 10 will end in 2025, right in line with Microsoft’s 10-year Windows support cycle.

But there’s more evidence to suggest that Windows 11 will in fact be free. Those brave enough to install the leaked Windows 11 build were able to use it on existing Windows 10 PCs, without the need for a product key. The leaked ISO file for the build lets you “upgrade” Windows 10 to Windows 11, just like you could from Windows 8 to Windows 10.

Now, this is an unofficial release, so that could just be a coincidence. However, some coding in the configuration files even suggests Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 users will be able to upgrade at no cost.

The final piece of the puzzle has to do with “Windows as a service.” As you know, Microsoft offers twice a year updates to Windows 10. Recently, Microsoft started playing with “featured experience packs” that bundle in features separate from the Windows operating system. If Microsoft really wanted to make Windows 11 free for Windows 10 users, then it could also come as an optional featured experience pack, too.

This is all speculation for now. We’ll have to wait and find out more on June 24 when Microsoft is set to officially reveal the next version of Windows

eDave 06-20-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15714676)
What’s wrong with WIN10?

I feel like they are just dumbing it down and will see a mobile version at some point. It's also supposed to be more developer friendly.

Imon Yourside 06-20-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15714676)
What’s wrong with WIN10?

Absolutely nothing, it's just time for everyone to beta test a new OS for the next 5 or so years.

lewdog 06-23-2021 08:03 PM

I'll be damned. It's like a new computer over here. It's loading EVERYTHING super fast. My stock screener has no glitches or pauses. Web pages are loading quicker than ever for a computer I've owned. That took me a whopping 5 minutes and was super easy to install.

I really appreciate the help in here. I spent $70 to do this and saved a ton, as I was about ready to just purchase a new computer because this one was running so slow.

eDave, thanks for letting me text you and helping. I know I'm slow, thank you for your patience. I owe you a beer.

htismaqe 06-24-2021 07:08 AM

Cha-ching!

displacedinMN 06-24-2021 12:01 PM

AP---


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Microsoft has unveiled the next generation of its Windows software, called Windows 11, that has sleeker visual features and is more open to third-party apps.

The newest version of Microsoft's flagship operating system announced Thursday will be a successor to today's Windows 10, which the company introduced in 2015.

In a challenge to rival Apple, the company also announced that it won't force app developers to pay fees to Microsoft for using its app store; and that Google's popular Android apps will run on its new system.

Windows 11 is expected to become available later this year on new computers and other devices and as a free update for those with Windows 10. It includes a host of cosmetic upgrades, such as a new Start button, a revamped task bar and sounds, and under-the-hood features designed to boost speed and efficiency.

While opening more doors to third-party developers, it also further entrenches Microsoft's workplace chatting tool Teams by making it easier to contact people when starting up.

Forrester analyst J.P. Gownder said the aesthetic, user-friendly improvements reflect CEO Satya Nadella's promise to build products that people will "love," not tolerate, though Gownder questioned whether Windows 11 is truly a new generation of software. The fact that it is built on the same core code base as Windows 10 might actually be a good thing, he added, because it could avoid the technical glitches that plagued the release of Windows Vista in 2007.

Microsoft's virtual announcement event was itself affected by technical difficulties Thursday, forcing the company to recommend some viewers watch it on Twitter instead.

When it launched Windows 10 six years ago, Microsoft was hoping that the new operating system would help it rebuild loyalty among users who were increasingly relying on tablets, smartphones and other devices.

Windows has been a PC workhorse for decades. Its first version launched in 1985, offering computer novices a "graphical user interface" so they could click on icons and menus with a mouse button rather than simply type commands into a blank screen.

It's been a core part of Microsoft's business ever since, though its influence waned as PC sales declined with the rise of smartphones.

Microsoft said it would allow developers to bypass the payments system in its app store if they have their own commerce engine.

That could create problems for Apple, which has faced government scrutiny over its app store and a legal battle from Epic, the maker of the popular Fortnite game, which contends Apple has been gouging app makers by charging commissions ranging from 15% to 30% for in-app transactions because it forbids other options on its iPhone, iPad and iPod.

"I believe this will be problematic for Apple in its antitrust dealings," said tech analyst Patrick Moorhead. "Apple charging 30% in its store and Microsoft charging 0% and 15% if you use its commerce engine. Global antitrust units are currently scrutinizing Apple on this very point."

Moorhead said the easier access to third-party apps, combined with the better user interface promised with Windows 11, could help Microsoft get a stronger hold in the premium tablet market, now dominated by the iPad.

htismaqe 06-24-2021 02:16 PM

The problem is that Windows is the most insecure OS on earth and one of the biggest reasons is the ability to bypass the walled garden for app installation.

This doesn't change anything for Apple because this isn't new.

Fish 06-24-2021 02:26 PM

A large part of my job is packaging and pushing software and MDM profiles to large numbers of computers. Apple's last two operating systems have been a huge pain in the ass for people like me. Apple has currently went way overboard with their personal privacy controls as of late. They've locked their OS down to the point it's very difficult for admins like me to properly manage them for our users. Apple seems insistent on cutting out any middle management between itself and the end users, to the detriment of developers.

Windows is seemingly going the opposite direction. Especially with the ability to run Android apps natively. LOL.

Both Windows and OS X could use a slight course correction...

htismaqe 06-24-2021 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15720212)
A large part of my job is packaging and pushing software and MDM profiles to large numbers of computers. Apple's last two operating systems have been a huge pain in the ass for people like me. Apple has currently went way overboard with their personal privacy controls as of late. They've locked their OS down to the point it's very difficult for admins like me to properly manage them for our users. Apple seems insistent on cutting out any middle management between itself and the end users, to the detriment of developers.

Windows is seemingly going the opposite direction. Especially with the ability to run Android apps natively. LOL.

Both Windows and OS X could use a slight course correction...

Yep.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2021 02:45 PM

I'm not a gamer but I thought I'd share this info for those of you who are:

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Windows 11 update will add multiple features for gamers including two key features utilized by the company’s Xbox consoles – Auto HDR and DirectStorage.

With Auto HDR, Windows 11 will make it easier to turn high dynamic range on or off if the hardware supports it. It will better stabilize it if switched on and automatically upgrade titles to HDR when possible.

Direct Storage loads game assets directly to the GPU instead of through the CPU to avoid bottlenecks. It also makes use of higher read and write speeds of NVMe storage, PCIe 4.0 and the upcoming PCIe 5.0 standard.

Additionally, the Xbox app is built directly into Windows 11, with deeper integration of Xbox Game Pass. Subscribers will be able to download and stream titles using Xbox cloud gaming. It also allows cross-play between consoles and PCs.

eDave 06-24-2021 02:57 PM

More multiple screen options as well.

BleedingRed 06-24-2021 03:31 PM

Its garbage, the sand boxing will lead to so much of a headach. But then again the business world will no update to this for 2 years.

But designing your OS with "Streaming" in mind is ****ing moronic. No one wants to use Microsoft tools for streaming when there are much better streaming applications that are open source.

Some of these features like HDR are nice, but mark my words. When someone works all day on something then accidently closes their VM or god forbid a Update restart *shudder*

eDave 06-24-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15720311)
Its garbage, the sand boxing will lead to so much of a headach. But then again the business world will no update to this for 2 years.

But designing your OS with "Streaming" in mind is ****ing moronic. No one wants to use Microsoft tools for streaming when there are much better streaming applications that are open source.

Some of these features like HDR are nice, but mark my words. When someone works all day on something then accidently closes their VM or god forbid a Update restart *shudder*

Win10 end of life is slated for October, 2025.

lewdog 06-24-2021 09:53 PM

Windows 11 better not **** up my “new” computer!!

Fish 06-24-2021 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15720701)
Windows 11 better not **** up my “new” computer!!

Windows 11 will be fine. Windows updates/upgrades are infinitely better than they were a decade ago. It's a free and painless process these days for the typical end user. Some here are exaggerating the concerns quite a bit. Outside of lazy IT management, updates/upgrades shouldn't be avoided these days....

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15720717)
Windows 11 will be fine. Windows updates/upgrades are infinitely better than they were a decade ago. It's a free and painless process these days for the typical end user. Some here are exaggerating the concerns quite a bit. Outside of lazy IT management, updates/upgrades shouldn't be avoided these days....

If the benchmarks are as high as some are claiming, I'll be happy to have it on my computer asap.

eDave 06-24-2021 11:04 PM

How To Move Windows 11 Taskbar To Left Using Settings and Reg Edit:

https://fossbytes.com/how-to-move-wi...-taskbar-left/

Windows 11 Start menu: How to make it look like Windows 10

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3622...indows-10.html

eDave 06-25-2021 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15720701)
Windows 11 better not **** up my “new” computer!!

Hey man, do us a solid and hit Windows-R and type TPM.msc in the run dialog box and let us know what the specification version is.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/kMnc9Dk.jpg

And since you are using your integrated video, type dxdiag in the same run dialog box and let us know what version of DirectX is installed.

lewdog 06-25-2021 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15720758)
Hey man, do us a solid and hit Windows-R and type TPM.msc in the run dialog box and let us know what the specification version is.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/kMnc9Dk.jpg

And since you are using your integrated video, type dxdiag in the same run dialog box and let us know what version of DirectX is installed.

"Compatible TPM cannot be found"

eDave 06-25-2021 07:18 AM

Good news! Windows 11 will not **** up your computer.

lewdog 06-25-2021 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15720835)
Good news! Windows 11 will not **** up your computer.

This is great news! I cannot believe how fast everything is moving now. My work software used to take minutes to load (the servers are in Florida and they still use Internet Explorer) so it's slow in general but it went from taking 1-2 minutes to load to about 15 seconds.

All of you guys are so smart!

eDave 06-25-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15720837)
This is great news! I cannot believe how fast everything is moving now. My work software used to take minutes to load (the servers are in Florida and they still use Internet Explorer) so it's slow in general but it went from taking 1-2 minutes to load to about 15 seconds.

All of you guys are so smart!

By that I mean you will be unable to upgrade.

displacedinMN 06-25-2021 07:27 AM

Do all of these changes really affect the casual user? I dont use mine for much past browser, a grade program and small things.


Most of what I do anymore is web based. Schoology, google docs and suite. I have easily adapted to all versions. Some things have been added and taken away, but got by.
Thoughts?


My problem is going from Win at home to Mac as my school computer. We get new school computers this summer too.

lewdog 06-25-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15720842)
By that I mean you will be unable to upgrade.

Ugh.

Is that going to be a problem?

eDave 06-25-2021 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15720849)
Ugh.

Is that going to be a problem?

Nope.

That goes for you too, displacedinMN.

displacedinMN 06-25-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15720854)
Nope.

That goes for you too, displacedinMN.

my home laptop is about 3 years old. Once bugs get worked out on Win 11, I will buy a new one anyway.

htismaqe 06-25-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15720717)
Windows 11 will be fine. Windows updates/upgrades are infinitely better than they were a decade ago. It's a free and painless process these days for the typical end user. Some here are exaggerating the concerns quite a bit. Outside of lazy IT management, updates/upgrades shouldn't be avoided these days....

Yep.

The biggest, and really only, issue I have with Windows Update these days is getting it to run flawlessly. Sometimes it might go a month installing silent updates and none of my users even know. Then all of the sudden one little hot fix comes through and gets stuck, Windows Update just stops working and you have to go through cleaning it all it to get it running again.

The chances of this happening on a single machine aren't great but when you're support 8 Windows devices, it can get kind of annoying.

htismaqe 06-25-2021 09:53 AM

And I should add, when you support 8 windows devices that are used by other people, people that aren't as techy as you and don't truly understand the value of things like data backup and system integrity, you have to be proactive a lot of the times with Windows Update.

It might stop downloading updates but not fire off any error messages but rather just quietly keep trying to update even though it's stuck. My windows users would get months behind on updates if I didn't check once in a while because they don't understand the whole continuous update concept. Hell, even when it's working correctly, they'll ignore reboot prompts for weeks...

BleedingRed 06-25-2021 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15720717)
Windows 11 will be fine. Windows updates/upgrades are infinitely better than they were a decade ago. It's a free and painless process these days for the typical end user. Some here are exaggerating the concerns quite a bit. Outside of lazy IT management, updates/upgrades shouldn't be avoided these days....

.......... I guess you don't pay attention to Microsoft **** ups.


A) Windows 11 will be a resource hog and they still cant get HDR to work right on Window 10

B) Microsoft has a storied history with **** ups when it comes to updates/upgrades. Including ****ing baking in open back doors to their own software.

C) Window 11 is doomed to fail, its tradition... Every other OS has sucked balls, and bringing back and pushing widgets is ****ing reeruned.

Window 98 > Windows ME > Window XP > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 > Windows 10 > (We are here) Windows 11

Fish 06-25-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15721568)
.......... I guess you don't pay attention to Microsoft **** ups.


A) Windows 11 will be a resource hog and they still cant get HDR to work right on Window 10

B) Microsoft has a storied history with **** ups when it comes to updates/upgrades. Including ****ing baking in open back doors to their own software.

C) Window 11 is doomed to fail, its tradition... Every other OS has sucked balls, and bringing back and pushing widgets is ****ing reeruned.

Window 98 > Windows ME > Window XP > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 > Windows 10 > (We are here) Windows 11

A isn't necessarily just a Windows issue. HDR in Windows is still rather new, considering it wasn't even included in the initial release of Win10. It has a combination of requirements that many people just can't figure out. You must have a compatible CPU, GPU, monitor, cable, graphics driver, and correct Windows version just to start. Not sure what you mean saying Win11 will be a resource hog.

Concerning B, as I already mentioned the Windows update/upgrade process is 1000x better than it was in prior releases. There's no intentional back door installed, don't be silly.

C is fallacy.

Baby Lee 06-25-2021 04:30 PM

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Soooo, this TPM bullshit

Sucks, my MOBO is 'too old' even though all the specs are 10x what Win11 needs, . . . and it even HAS a TPM header to plug in a module. But Asus uses that internally and doesn't vend the module for consumers.

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RustShack 06-25-2021 04:47 PM

Lol you’re only on windows 11? I’m on 98.

Mennonite 06-25-2021 05:00 PM

I just added some ram to my dad's laptop. The task manager says that there are two available slots. When I opened it up it only had one slot. There is a space for an additional slot but there aren't anything there. Is that unusual?

Fish 06-25-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15721655)
I just added some ram to my dad's laptop. The task manager says that there are two available slots. When I opened it up it only had one slot. There is a space for an additional slot but there aren't anything there. Is that unusual?

Occasionally a laptop will have 1 "slot" which is a RAM module soldered onto the motherboard, along with 1 additional slot that is user accessible. You can only add to the user accessible slot.

Mennonite 06-25-2021 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15721679)
Occasionally a laptop will have 1 "slot" which is a RAM module soldered onto the motherboard, along with 1 additional slot that is user accessible. You can only add to the user accessible slot.



Yeah, but this one says that only one slot of two is in use. The slot that I can access already has a stick in it so unless one of the two (potential) sticks is faulty something doesn't add up.


Update: i was reading while i typed this. There is a thread on the hp help site where someone says that models with a certain processor actually only have one slot even though it says it has two. They claim that it is because different models use the same motherboard but have different processors. Who knows?

Either way he went from 4 to 8 so there is still a noticeable improvement.

eDave 06-26-2021 12:13 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks to Windows 11, people are scalping TPM2.0 modules as well now.<br><br>$24.90 ➡ $99.90 in just 12 hours <a href="https://t.co/9TTHC2c47w">pic.twitter.com/9TTHC2c47w</a></p>&mdash; Shen Ye (@shen) <a href="https://twitter.com/shen/status/1408284995131645956?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lawrenceRaider 06-26-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15721947)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks to Windows 11, people are scalping TPM2.0 modules as well now.<br><br>$24.90 ➡ $99.90 in just 12 hours <a href="https://t.co/9TTHC2c47w">pic.twitter.com/9TTHC2c47w</a></p>&mdash; Shen Ye (@shen) <a href="https://twitter.com/shen/status/1408284995131645956?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You know there are idiots paying the drastically inflated price.

Rausch 06-26-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15721645)
Lol you’re only on windows 11? I’m on 98.

I just got Windows10 3 days ago so I'm in no hurry...

hometeam 06-26-2021 09:02 PM

Windows 11 is windows 10

Imon Yourside 06-27-2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15721568)
.......... I guess you don't pay attention to Microsoft **** ups.


A) Windows 11 will be a resource hog and they still cant get HDR to work right on Window 10

B) Microsoft has a storied history with **** ups when it comes to updates/upgrades. Including ****ing baking in open back doors to their own software.

C) Window 11 is doomed to fail, its tradition... Every other OS has sucked balls, and bringing back and pushing widgets is ****ing reeruned.

Window 98 > Windows ME > Window XP > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 > Windows 10 > (We are here) Windows 11

Absolutely true! especially the last one.

BleedingRed 06-27-2021 09:59 PM

The TPM thing will make things interesting

eDave 06-27-2021 11:05 PM

https://i.imgur.com/1Pm4L7I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hXJBX0z.jpg

displacedinMN 06-28-2021 05:47 AM

wasnt there a Win 9 that was around for about 3 months?

lewdog 06-28-2021 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15723572)
The TPM thing will make things interesting

My computer doesn’t have it. I’m not even sure what it is.

Should I care?

BleedingRed 06-28-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15723662)
My computer doesn’t have it. I’m not even sure what it is.

Should I care?

Its a chip on most business grade computers for encryption. And yes it is needed in almost all business cases.

So the fact they are (windows 11) forcing the issue is major when it comes to supply. Because right now there shit all when it comes to laptops/desktops supply.

Windows 11 is already shaping up to be a disaster.

DaneMcCloud 06-28-2021 04:01 PM

So Microsoft is requiring an additional hardware item at a time when chips and electronic items are at the lowest availability in history?

LMAO

eDave 06-28-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15723662)
My computer doesn’t have it. I’m not even sure what it is.

Should I care?

There is a chance you have TPM on your MB but not turned on. If you go to Settings -> Recovery there you should see an Advanced Startup button. Use that to get into your bios (will force a reboot). Once in, you can cycle through the settings to see if you have an option to turn on PTT. You will need to use your keyboard to navigate as your mouse will not work. And beyond that, I doubt your integrated video supports DirectX 12 so none of the above matters. dxdiag in your run prompt. If it doesn't say 12 then it doesn't support as Win10 would have installed it if it could have.

Otherwise, you are fine for 4 more years with Win10 as far as support (security patches).

lcarus 06-28-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15709646)
I'm just waiting for the next Windows 2000. Best OS ever IMO.

A lot of people say that about 2000. In my experiences, things in the home PC world got so much better with Windows 7.

I had an old Gateway computer that came with Windows Millennium Edition and it was just awful. I've heard Vista was pretty awful.


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