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BWillie 01-30-2020 10:56 PM

Can we bring back Kyle Davies too?

God damn it. This is my 4th post on this thread. I'm trying to not be a baseball fan this season. I hope I can persevere.

cabletech94 01-30-2020 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 14761529)
"On the website, KansasCityLovesTheRoyals.com, the firm behind the rendering said that while no on asked for their opinions on building a new facility, they worked with a “group of like minded Kansas City based business owners” to create a vision for the boys in blue that put the team downtown."

And no one will after seeing that. No fountains, no crown scoreboard...
That's the worst stadium concept I've ever seen.

exhibit A and exhibit B of why its dumb.


those are just 2 of the most important features of the K......

tk13 02-10-2020 08:51 PM

This is an... idea. Definitely a lot of heat on Manfred tonight on social media.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB reportedly planning to change postseason format from 5 to 7 teams per league.<br><br>- Wild card game would go away <br>- First round would become best 2-of-3<br>- Top seed in each league gets a Bye<br>- Teams with best records would pick their opponents.<br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Joelsherman1</a>)<br><br>Thoughts?�� <a href="https://t.co/DhjvrgEb9D">pic.twitter.com/DhjvrgEb9D</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1226993415537090560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

C3HIEF3S 02-10-2020 08:52 PM

Yeah that’s ****ing ridiculous.

The Bunk 02-10-2020 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14789450)
This is an... idea. Definitely a lot of heat on Manfred tonight on social media.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB reportedly planning to change postseason format from 5 to 7 teams per league.<br><br>- Wild card game would go away <br>- First round would become best 2-of-3<br>- Top seed in each league gets a Bye<br>- Teams with best records would pick their opponents.<br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Joelsherman1</a>)<br><br>Thoughts?�� <a href="https://t.co/DhjvrgEb9D">pic.twitter.com/DhjvrgEb9D</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1226993415537090560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bud Selig was a dunce. Manfred says hold my beer.

Sassy Squatch 02-10-2020 09:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No idea who made this new playoff format proposal, but Rob is responsible for releasing it, so I’ll direct this to you, Rob Manfred. Your proposal is absurd for too many reasons to type on twitter and proves you have absolutely no clue about baseball. You’re a joke.</p>&mdash; Trevor Bauer (@BauerOutage) <a href="https://twitter.com/BauerOutage/status/1227053354741682176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TLO 02-10-2020 10:22 PM

Anyone care to share reasons for optimism this year?

I've really tuned out of Royals baseball since the 2016 season. I'd like to get back into it.

tk13 02-10-2020 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14789579)
Anyone care to share reasons for optimism this year?

I've really tuned out of Royals baseball since the 2016 season. I'd like to get back into it.

The biggest point for optimism is we have a group of stud pitchers in the minors and we'll probably start seeing some of them this year. There's a chance one of them could end up in the rotation early in the season if they blow up Spring Training.

jerryaldini 02-10-2020 11:54 PM

Salvy being back helps the lineup a bit. Expect Lopez to continue getting exposed so they can move Whit back to second where he belongs (needs to be flipped at the deadline). Then Bubba can prove once and for all he isn't nearly good enough, Phillips too, and Ohearn. So basically a year to cut bait with some bad position players, see a couple of the pitching prospects in the second half, and lose 90 to 95. Oh boy

poolboy 02-11-2020 12:04 AM

im still in on phillips....if you spend 1bill on a team , you better buy some players or move the franchise

duncan_idaho 02-11-2020 12:16 PM

I'll dig in on our Royals this week, now that football season is over. I've been nerding out about the NFL draft for the first time in a long time.

I think there are some reasons for optimism and definitely some interesting things to watch. The starting pitching still isn't going to be good enough this year to have any sort of run, but it's coming...

Discuss Thrower 02-11-2020 12:17 PM

They should trade Whit for a top 200 prospect.

Mecca 02-11-2020 12:23 PM

The Vegas over/under is 59...that's terrible.

FringeNC 02-11-2020 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14761245)

Those architects should be fired. Would be the ugliest park ever built.

Old Dog 02-11-2020 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14761245)

That's atrocious

ChiefsCountry 02-11-2020 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14789450)
This is an... idea. Definitely a lot of heat on Manfred tonight on social media.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB reportedly planning to change postseason format from 5 to 7 teams per league.<br><br>- Wild card game would go away <br>- First round would become best 2-of-3<br>- Top seed in each league gets a Bye<br>- Teams with best records would pick their opponents.<br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Joelsherman1</a>)<br><br>Thoughts?�� <a href="https://t.co/DhjvrgEb9D">pic.twitter.com/DhjvrgEb9D</a></p>&mdash; FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1226993415537090560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It sets up how they would do the 4 divisions in each league for the playoffs. Expansion will be coming in the near future.

tk13 02-11-2020 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14790502)
Those architects should be fired. Would be the ugliest park ever built.

The fact that there are zero fountains in that design show the architects have no idea what they're doing. I'm not 100% against a downtown ballpark but you have to keep some of the elements that make the K one of the most unique stadiums in sports, and it reflects the city. Even the people on Twitter who want to go downtown were ripping this apart. Sure it's just a design but if you want to build buzz for a new ballpark this ain't it.

RealSNR 02-12-2020 12:02 AM

That stadium is nice and all, but can we also divert that ****ing Missouri River so fans can look at the river while they watch baseball?!!!!!

Archie F. Swin 02-12-2020 08:17 AM

It's blasphemous to design a stadium for the Royals that doesn't have some prominent structure that features the crowned shield (Crown vision). It's the home field icon.

Prison Bitch 02-12-2020 08:32 AM

2011 mlb draft

5. Bubba starling
6. Anthony rendon
8. Francisco libdor
9. Javier Baez
11. George springer



https://media2.giphy.com/media/xItWIF8QxaQPm/source.gif

OKchiefs 02-12-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14791953)
2011 mlb draft

5. Bubba starling
6. Anthony rendon
8. Francisco libdor
9. Javier Baez
11. George springer



https://media2.giphy.com/media/xItWIF8QxaQPm/source.gif

Witt Jr. really needs to hit the ground running this year. The best reports coming out from the organization were that he was a good teammate in his limited action last year. Most of the other top 10 picks advanced to A ball last year after dominating in rookie ball. Bobby Witt Jr couldn't make it past rookie ball where he hit a mere .262/.317. For comparison, CJ Abrams hit .401/.442 in rookie ball over 32 games before advancing to A ball for a 2 game stint. I don't know if it's is taking the wrong player or our development program being so piss poor, but it's highly discouraging when a highly heralded guy like Witt Jr isn't able to come in and dominate the way his draft pedigree says he should.

Mecca 02-12-2020 10:34 AM

I'm not going to lose my shit over a small sampling after a guy was drafted but I can understand a flag going up considering the Royals player development has been pretty well horrible for quite awhile now.

duncan_idaho 02-12-2020 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14792175)
I'm not going to lose my shit over a small sampling after a guy was drafted but I can understand a flag going up considering the Royals player development has been pretty well horrible for quite awhile now.


I’ve read that Witt’s exit velocity numbers and other advanced stats were elite. On-field results just didn’t quite match.

Something to watch this year, for sure. Those advanced stat indicators need to translate to real production over a full season.

Mecca 02-12-2020 10:44 AM

I guess a real question here is how much leash does Dayton Moore get, if the Royals in the next 2 years show no signs of improving and that farm system doesn't climb quite a bit higher, does he inch closer to being fired?

OKchiefs 02-12-2020 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14792175)
I'm not going to lose my shit over a small sampling after a guy was drafted but I can understand a flag going up considering the Royals player development has been pretty well horrible for quite awhile now.

I certainly won't lose my shit, winning the super bowl still has me on cloud 9. I have a lot more patience for a while to put up with a shitty Royals team and a shitty Mizzou program.

duncan_idaho 02-12-2020 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14792198)
I guess a real question here is how much leash does Dayton Moore get, if the Royals in the next 2 years show no signs of improving and that farm system doesn't climb quite a bit higher, does he inch closer to being fired?


It’s a good one, too.

KurtCobain 02-12-2020 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14790332)
The Vegas over/under is 59...that's terrible.

Call me crazy, but I'm taking the over.

WhawhaWhat 02-12-2020 03:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have agreed to terms with 14 players on contracts for 2020. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/RfgLJLSsZm">pic.twitter.com/RfgLJLSsZm</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1227701531463618561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WhawhaWhat 02-12-2020 03:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB announces its 2020 rule changes. Most we knew about. One we didn’t was that managers now have just 20 seconds to make a replay challenge. <a href="https://t.co/hEq83C4cpR">pic.twitter.com/hEq83C4cpR</a></p>&mdash; Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1227700169522720769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 02-12-2020 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14790332)
The Vegas over/under is 59...that's terrible.

That's fantastic. This team needs to continue to tank for the next year or 2. It was amazing to think people thought this team would compete again by 2022.

Deberg_1990 02-12-2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14792198)
I guess a real question here is how much leash does Dayton Moore get, if the Royals in the next 2 years show no signs of improving and that farm system doesn't climb quite a bit higher, does he inch closer to being fired?

With new ownership I would hope short. Very short

Prison Bitch 02-12-2020 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14790332)
The Vegas over/under is 59...that's terrible.

No it’s not. 64.5:
https://www.thelines.com/betting/mlb/win-totals/


Steamer has us about 70 and ZiPS 71 (my rough calcs). So no, 59.5 isn’t real.

Prison Bitch 02-12-2020 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14792163)
Witt Jr. really needs to hit the ground running this year. The best reports coming out from the organization were that he was a good teammate in his limited action last year. Most of the other top 10 picks advanced to A ball last year after dominating in rookie ball. Bobby Witt Jr couldn't make it past rookie ball where he hit a mere .262/.317. For comparison, CJ Abrams hit .401/.442 in rookie ball over 32 games before advancing to A ball for a 2 game stint. I don't know if it's is taking the wrong player or our development program being so piss poor, but it's highly discouraging when a highly heralded guy like Witt Jr isn't able to come in and dominate the way his draft pedigree says he should.


I wouldn’t worry at all about Witt. Every single scout and GM loved him, it’s universal. And in the event he busts, that won’t be on DM, since every team takes him 2.

cosmo20002 02-12-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14792768)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MLB announces its 2020 rule changes. Most we knew about. One we didn’t was that managers now have just 20 seconds to make a replay challenge. <a href="https://t.co/hEq83C4cpR">pic.twitter.com/hEq83C4cpR</a></p>&mdash; Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1227700169522720769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The 3-batter minimum is so ****ing dumb.

Deberg_1990 02-12-2020 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 14793250)
The 3-batter minimum is so ****ing dumb.

Interesting


Will this cause scoring to go up?

RealSNR 02-12-2020 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 14793250)
The 3-batter minimum is so ****ing dumb.

Looks like Ned picked the wrong year to retire.

lewdog 02-13-2020 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14792904)
That's fantastic. This team needs to continue to tank for the next year or 2. It was amazing to think people thought this team would compete again by 2022.

Competing like Frost!!!!

Mecca 02-17-2020 11:17 AM

And we go from a Superbowl to...Mike Matheny, Dayton Moore and this band of shit, how exciting.

smithandrew051 02-17-2020 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 14793250)
The 3-batter minimum is so ****ing dumb.

I can’t wait to see a pitcher get injured and be forced to stay in the game, because the ump thinks he’s faking.

Al Bundy 02-17-2020 12:44 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals announced they&#39;ve agreed to terms on 2020 Major League contracts with pitchers Scott Blewett, Carlos Hernandez, Tim Hill, Jakob Junis, Glenn Sparkman and Kyle Zimmer; infielder Adalberto Mondesi, infielder/outfielder Hunter Dozier and outfielder Bubba Starling</p>&mdash; Lynn Worthy (@LWorthySports) <a href="https://twitter.com/LWorthySports/status/1229473845230178304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TLO 02-17-2020 02:23 PM

lemonade lemonade lemonade!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

Al Bundy 02-17-2020 03:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, the Royals and FOX Sports Kansas City essentially have a “handshake deal” for a new television contract. An announcement on the broadcast schedule for Spring Training/regular season could be coming within the week. Full story on the way:</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1229517722318303232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RockChalk 02-17-2020 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14745207)
In September Biz Journal had a story saying Royals had signed a new 5 year extension to their radio contract with 610 sports. (it goes through 2024 )- https://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci...adcasting.html

No mention of actual dollar amount for radio deal.

Found this old news on new TV contract -

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, the Royals and FOX Sports Kansas City essentially have a “handshake deal” for a new television contract. An announcement on the broadcast schedule for Spring Training/regular season could be coming within the week. Full story on the way:</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1229517722318303232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kstater 02-17-2020 04:48 PM

48-52M/Year





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dlphg9 02-17-2020 05:03 PM

That extra $50 mil/year will help the sherminator pay for his loan to buy the team! Amirite PB?!

Titty Meat 02-17-2020 06:28 PM

Matheny sounds like such a douchebag just hearing him talk reminds me of Trey Hillman

lewdog 02-17-2020 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14800393)
Matheny sounds like such a douchebag just hearing him talk reminds me of Trey Hillman

Stupid ass hiring.

We can plan to sit in the cellar for a good few years.

Nightfyre 02-17-2020 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 14800244)
48-52M/Year





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That figure seems really low, if true.

Titty Meat 02-18-2020 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14800661)
Stupid ass hiring.

We can plan to sit in the cellar for a good few years.

Well the last time we hired a douchebag manager his replacement turned out pretty well :)

Maybe I'm reading too much into things but just watching his interviews and the player interviews it feels uncomfortable as ****. They definitely dont seem as loose as when Ned was in charge.

Mecca 02-18-2020 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 14800950)
That figure seems really low, if true.

It is low, the Reds TV contract is significantly bigger for comparison sake.

Prison Bitch 02-18-2020 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 14800661)
Stupid ass hiring.

We can plan to sit in the cellar for a good few years.

Hot take. Solid contribution. Would read again.

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-18-2020 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14801133)
Hot take. Solid contribution. Would read again.

There is a silver lining: we won't have to wait long to see how Sherman is going to be as an owner. If in 2 years Matheny and GMDM are still here, then we can have our poopy party. But at least we'll know.

Titty Meat 02-18-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14801133)
Hot take. Solid contribution. Would read again.

You were a big fan of the Hillman hiring too

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2020 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14801071)
It is low, the Reds TV contract is significantly bigger for comparison sake.

Do Reds have ownership stake in the deal? That's what inflates some of those numbers.

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2020 11:18 AM

Kumar Rocker looks like he might be a good reason to tank 2020.

Wilson8 02-18-2020 01:20 PM

Brock Holt signs with the Brewers. https://www.mlb.com/news/brock-holt-deal-brewers

He seemed like a signing that Dayton would want.

Nothing against Brock Holt, but I prefer to see our current players play.

RockChalk 02-18-2020 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 14801694)
Brock Holt signs with the Brewers. https://www.mlb.com/news/brock-holt-deal-brewers

He seemed like a signing that Dayton would want.

Nothing against Brock Holt, but I prefer to see our current players play.

When I saw a bottom line scroll last night during the KU game that started as "Brock Holt signs...", I was almost certain that it was going to say "...with the Royals"

Still holding out hope for Dayton to sign some retread at the end of camp to play first base, rather than let us see O'Hearn/McBroom or whomever for a full season. [sarcasm]

I can almost feel that Mark Reynolds/Steve Pearce signing any day now.

Wilson8 02-18-2020 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 14801706)
I can almost feel that Mark Reynolds/Steve Pearce signing any day now.

I had hoped for a free agent pitcher, but that market has about dried up.

Prison Bitch 02-19-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14792972)
No it’s not. 64.5:
https://www.thelines.com/betting/mlb/win-totals/


Steamer has us about 70 and ZiPS 71 (my rough calcs). So no, 59.5 isn’t real.


Fangraphs “Depth Charts” says 71 and Prospectus says 67.8 as per their 2/11 release. So the dude who said Vegas called 59 wins lied.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2020 01:09 PM

Duncan's Top Prospects for 2020

Well, here it is. I'll switch into baseball mode, reluctantly, after the high of the Chiefs getting to the mountain top.

The Royals farm system is slowly building back up to the state it needs to be in. Good drafts in 2018 and 2019 (some might say a GREAT draft in 2018) have the system loading up. With a strong 2020 draft (more on that in a bit) and solid progression from current crop of farmhands, KC is primed to be back in top 10s-ville (rather than the mid-range current ranking) by this time next year.

Let's get to it.

Top 5
Spoiler!


6-10
Spoiler!


11-20
Spoiler!



2020 Draft Thoughts
The Royals again have a strong draft pool to work with in 2020, with 4 picks in the top 77 (4, 32, 41, 77) and will have the money to be creative and aggressive. At 4th overall, KC is probably out of range for the top college bat, Spencer Torkelson (Arizona State 1B/OF) who basically is Andrew Vaughn - but with better raw power and the ability to 'play' LF. This draft is deep in college arms (Emerson Hancock, Asa Lacy, Garrett Crochet), but there will be intriguing college bats (Vandy SS Austin Martin, UCLA CF Garrett Mitchell) available, too.

It's regarded as a pretty strong draft right now, so it's a good year to have picks and add premium upside to a system on the rise. The big target for me would be impact bats. KC's minor league system has good pitching depth. You always take the best guy on your board, but looking at KC's system, I'd take a bat over a similarly ranked pitcher this year (unless Hancock is there. If he is, they can't let him slip).

AJKCFAN 02-19-2020 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803173)
Duncan's Top Prospects for 2020

Well, here it is. I'll switch into baseball mode, reluctantly, after the high of the Chiefs getting to the mountain top.

The Royals farm system is slowly building back up to the state it needs to be in. Good drafts in 2018 and 2019 (some might say a GREAT draft in 2018) have the system loading up. With a strong 2020 draft (more on that in a bit) and solid progression from current crop of farmhands, KC is primed to be back in top 10s-ville (rather than the mid-range current ranking) by this time next year.

Let's get to it.

Top 5
Spoiler!


6-10
Spoiler!


11-20
Spoiler!



2020 Draft Thoughts
The Royals again have a strong draft pool to work with in 2020, with 4 picks in the top 77 (4, 32, 41, 77) and will have the money to be creative and aggressive. At 4th overall, KC is probably out of range for the top college bat, Spencer Torkelson (Arizona State 1B/OF) who basically is Andrew Vaughn - but with better raw power and the ability to 'play' LF. This draft is deep in college arms (Emerson Hancock, Asa Lacy, Garrett Crochet), but there will be intriguing college bats (Vandy SS Austin Martin, UCLA CF Garrett Mitchell) available, too.

It's regarded as a pretty strong draft right now, so it's a good year to have picks and add premium upside to a system on the rise. The big target for me would be impact bats. KC's minor league system has good pitching depth. You always take the best guy on your board, but looking at KC's system, I'd take a bat over a similarly ranked pitcher this year (unless Hancock is there. If he is, they can't let him slip).

Great recap Duncan as always. What about Jonathan Bowlan? I thought he progressed really well last year...

Mecca 02-19-2020 01:29 PM

I was going to add to his breakdown but he already did one. I think Carlos Hernandez and Evan Steele are bullpen guys. They are old for their levels and need to advance quickly after injury problems, they scream pen arms. Now they could both be dominant in those roles though.

Until I see it I think Brady Singer ends up as a closer because without a true secondary pitch he's going to struggle to start.

Duncan also left 1 name off the list I think could stick at the major league level, Jonathan Bowlen, dude is like 6'6 with good velocity and command.

Mecca 02-19-2020 01:55 PM

I also wanted to add this, the Royals aren't exactly awesome at thinking outside the box when it comes to adding players. This offseason presented them with some interesting ideas on how to do things and they passed on all of them...the Angels literally gave away their 1st round pick to have Zack Cozarts contract taken, the Padres would give prospects to take Wil Myers...

You also have an offseason 3rd base market that was a bunch of teams battling for a few guys, the Royals should have gauged the interest in Dozier right there, he's older than people think and he has some wild splits and injury history that make him a good sell candidate.

If the Royals are going to try to restock this way they are going to need a lot more good draft picks as there isn't enough depth in general right now for this to work. Cause to be real half those pitchers are going to flame out, that's just how it works.

I guess in short I don't have a lot of real trust in Dayton Moore to make the right moves because he brought all these guys in so he has relationships and attachment to them. Stuff like this is why it's easier for an outsider to come in and tear it down to win as opposed to a guy that was already here.

BWillie 02-19-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 14799754)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals announced they&#39;ve agreed to terms on 2020 Major League contracts with pitchers Scott Blewett, Carlos Hernandez, Tim Hill, Jakob Junis, Glenn Sparkman and Kyle Zimmer; infielder Adalberto Mondesi, infielder/outfielder Hunter Dozier and outfielder Bubba Starling</p>&mdash; Lynn Worthy (@LWorthySports) <a href="https://twitter.com/LWorthySports/status/1229473845230178304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Mecca 02-19-2020 02:15 PM

Does anyone think if we had hired a new GM Zimmer or Starling would be here? He's keeping them around cause he wasted high picks on them and won't cut bait...that's the shit I mean when I say guys have attachment and it's harder to rebuild with the guy who picked all these guys.

DeepSouth 02-19-2020 02:17 PM

The link shows the opening day roster for 2019;

https://www.royalsreview.com/2019/3/...ing-day-roster

The Royals should be a better team because these players are no longer on the team;
Lucas Duda
Chris Owings
Frank Schwindel
Terrance Gore
Billy Hamilton
Jake Diekman
Wily Peralta

There is some bad baseball right there.

Mecca 02-19-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 14803289)
The link shows the opening day roster for 2019;

https://www.royalsreview.com/2019/3/...ing-day-roster

The Royals should be a better team because these players are no longer on the team;
Lucas Duda
Chris Owings
Frank Schwindel
Terrance Gore
Billy Hamilton
Jake Diekman
Wily Peralta

There is some bad baseball right there.

They're replacements aren't better.....this team signed Trevor Rosenthal and Greg Holland between them they might have a half a healthy arm.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AJKCFAN (Post 14803205)
Great recap Duncan as always. What about Jonathan Bowlan? I thought he progressed really well last year...


He’d be the next guy on my list. I’ve watched some video on him and don’t think he has the secondary pitches to make it work in the rotation. It’s a fastball command-driven profile, and those are tough.

DeepSouth 02-19-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14803290)
They're replacements aren't better.....this team signed Trevor Rosenthal and Greg Holland between them they might have a half a healthy arm.

You must not remember Chris Owens starting every day at 2nd and Wily Peralta blowing saves. I know you are not very optimistic about this team but I think they have the potential to win 10 - 15 more games than last year.

Mecca 02-19-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803297)
He’d be the next guy on my list. I’ve watched some video on him and don’t think he has the secondary pitches to make it work in the rotation. It’s a fastball command-driven profile, and those are tough.

You know what guy I see people rate decently that I don't get....Brewer Hicklen, I've seen video etc I just don't get how I can legit read some people think he can start in the MLB, blows my mind.

DeepSouth 02-19-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803173)
Duncan's Top Prospects for 2020

Appreciate the time you put into this Duncan. Always enjoy reading your take on things. So the 2021 Royals starting rotation could rival the Braves of Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, and Steve Avery?

duncan_idaho 02-19-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14803299)
You know what guy I see people rate decently that I don't get....Brewer Hicklen, I've seen video etc I just don't get how I can legit read some people think he can start in the MLB, blows my mind.


It’s because he put up numbers at Wilmington and that place is a nightmare for hitters.

He’s a great athlete. Probably a platoon guy in the majors or 4th OF.

Mecca 02-19-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803323)
It’s because he put up numbers at Wilmington and that place is a nightmare for hitters.

He’s a great athlete. Probably a platoon guy in the majors or 4th OF.

Stuff like that is why the depth concerns me...where are the guys who are legit starters in the OF? I wouldn't be surprised if Mondesi ends up in center in 2 years.

We've already got guys like Pratto basically not being prospects anymore.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14803325)
Stuff like that is why the depth concerns me...where are the guys who are legit starters in the OF? I wouldn't be surprised if Mondesi ends up in center in 2 years.



We've already got guys like Pratto basically not being prospects anymore.


Khalil Lee is about the only one that’s “close” to MLB. McConnell and Pena and Matias and Hicklen are in the mix. But yeah, it’s a thin grouping.

I’m with you on being more creative. I think Moore has been handcuffed on some of those things by ownership, too.

He had a nice OTB deal worked out for Joey Wentz last year and Glass nixed it.

We’ll see over time if Sherman gives him more rope on things like that.

DeepSouth 02-19-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803330)
Khalil Lee is about the only one that’s “close” to MLB. McConnell and Pena and Matias and Hicklen are in the mix. But yeah, it’s a thin grouping.

I’m with you on being more creative. I think Moore has been handcuffed on some of those things by ownership, too.

He had a nice OTB deal worked out for Joey Wentz last year and Glass nixed it.

We’ll see over time if Sherman gives him more rope on things like that.

You don't think Kyle Isbel is close?

Mecca 02-19-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14803330)
Khalil Lee is about the only one that’s “close” to MLB. McConnell and Pena and Matias and Hicklen are in the mix. But yeah, it’s a thin grouping.

I’m with you on being more creative. I think Moore has been handcuffed on some of those things by ownership, too.

He had a nice OTB deal worked out for Joey Wentz last year and Glass nixed it.

We’ll see over time if Sherman gives him more rope on things like that.

It's bad enough that people who cover the team think Nick Heath makes the majors this year....this team has a very serious infatuation with dudes that can run like hell but don't hit for shit. It's like Jarrod Dyson disease, we're going to draft 75 dudes that run fast and hope 1 is ok.

Mecca 02-19-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 14803333)
You don't think Kyle Isbel is close?

He has never played above single A, so no. With a really good year he might make it to Triple A at the end of the year but I would doubt that.

Three7s 02-19-2020 03:56 PM

If this team wins 70 games, they're overachieving.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 14803333)
You don't think Kyle Isbel is close?

I don't think he's going to get the call this year. i should have included him in that grouping.

I think he starts this year at A+ or AA (he was at Wilmington last year and really struggled after his hand injury) and ends the year at AA.

Halfcan 02-19-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 14803417)
If this team wins 70 games, they're overachieving.

The best part of the Royals season will be Opening Day- then the last game, because it will be football season.


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