I dunno man. The Giants MIGHT be worse than the Cards.

They did just get curbstomped by the ****ing Bills, who might be the least intimidating 2-0 team ever.

Is the Plan for Lamar Jackson to run for 100 yards a game every week? I would say that is not very sustainable. I am concerned we now have bigger, more physical but slower edge players so Jackson could bust a few.

Things is nobody knows how good or bad this Chiefs Defense is or how much improved Jackson is, Sunday should go a long ways to telling us.

Wacko for Flacco..

I'm not gonna get worked up that Jackson played well against 2 of the worst teams in football, and if he continues to run like that, he will get hurt.

This will be the first real test on how well he has improved in reading a defensive pass rush. I thought they confused him last year more than anyone.

I fully expect a shoot out. Like a 51-50 type of shoot out that the Chiefs win.

Jackson is going to get his yards one way or another. If he has an easy time running then I expect him to have some deep bombs on the Chiefs secondary. Ingram probably has a good game all around. I don't see Mahomes having any trouble finding an open man. I'm just hoping the game doesn't come down to our running game.

Lol Baltimore is going to get blown out.

Mark my words.

Various thoughts from the Ravens side.

Jackson isn't supposed to run for 100 yards a game under the Ravens' offensive scheme. Against Miami, he ran only a few times. He runs when he has to or, in certain instances when a weakness presents itself. However,I too worry about his getting hurt, and I don't WANT him running 100 yards a game! Neither does Harbaugh.

The Cardinals aren't picking any 1 or 2 next draft as was suggested earlier, not with that kid at quarterback. Therefore, I hope that 300 yards they got through the air yesterday was primarily because the kid's that good, and not because our pass rush was that bad. If our rush is that bad, Mahomes will throw for about 600.That's our biggest concern. It s/b noted that bad coverage caused a couple of their big completions yesterday, not pass rush.

We may have lost some defense from last year, although that isn't certain because of the Ravens' depth. Az. scored only 17 points. But our offense is a helluva lot better because of our draft-Hollywood Brown being the most notable.And your defense is no great shakes. We're gonna score. And if we can stifle your running game and concentrate on Mahomes, we can slow you down somewhat.

In any event, I think this w/b a high-scoring game. The winner w/need 30-35 points.

Only 30-35 points? Mahomes in 21 starts has averaged 34 points a game

This is going to be the game that will show us if these new players on D have changed things or not.

Clark, Okafor, Honey Badger, Wilson, Lee, Thornhill

Run D looks bad on the average YPC but keep in mind they had one bad play to Jacobs. Other than that it was 11 carries for 48 yards.

Need to fix the kinks that are starting to show up.

I've come to hate the Ravens as much as the Colts and nearly as much as the Patriots.

I want to knock their dicks into the dirt and put up 50 on them while holding them to about 17.

I bet that line shrinks. Maybe 4.5 by game time.

Then we win by two scores.

I will say that I love Lamar Jackson. He's progressed, and he's a pretty good passer now, though with occasional garbage passes in big spots.

He's also, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's my favorite ball runner to watch since Jamaal Charles. He has long, effortless strides, and my track & field heart loves seeing it.

I'm with Mecca, though -- it's going to get him slaughtered long term.

I don't see many dismissing Jackson. But you do have to factor in that most of his passing production came against a team that is laughably bad.

And no, the Chiefs don't have the 85 Bears' D. But there are plenty of reasons to believe that it's substantially better, and also more equipped to contain the run.

But the most important factor is that, for the first time in years, they appear to have a competent defensive staff that can make adjustments. This will be huge. And it was huge against the Raiders. The start of that game looked like it could've occurred in any of the last three seasons. They were getting steamrolled. Things turned around dramatically and Oakland didn't score in the final 3 quarters.

You also have to consider that KC's D is generally way better in front of an Arrowhead crowd. I won't be surprised at all if they look great in the opener. Especially if Frank Clark and Mathieu decide to start earning their checks.

Raven's O is improved, but D is weaker. KC's O is as good as ever and D appears to be improved.

We'll see how it shakes out.

Someone is going to run right past Brandon Carr (many times). Right?

;)

I will be there! It is going to be Loud- everyone hates the ****ing Ravens and Lamar's Doughnuts.

I thought he retired?

Hopefully, he will be on Watkins all day.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lowest pressure % in NFL among QBs:<br><br>Prescott 15.4%<br>Garoppolo 20.0<br>Mahomes 20.3<br><br>Play action usage:<br>Prescott 2nd<br>Garoppolo 3rd<br>Mahomes 4th<br><br>More <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PFF</a> signature stats:<a href="https://t.co/XGme5vRUgO">https://t.co/XGme5vRUgO</a></p>&mdash; Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1173659272984616961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RaidersOftheCellar....thanks for your thoughtful response.

True, you, me, and 9 other guys on this board could probably give MIA a game. If, however, you haven’t seen the entirety of the Ravens games this year, the most impressive part of Jackson’s progress as an NFL QB is the vast improvement in his mechanics and judgement.

Granted, he is nowhere near Mahomes, but who is?

I also think AZ may surprise some people this year. I’ll put up a shipment of crabcakes vs. some KC ribs that they WILL NOT have the #2 pick next April.

Classifying all these RPO plays play action is interesting. Not saying it's wrong, just...interesting. I'm not sure it's something anybody has really had to think about statistically-speaking since maybe the late 80s.

As far as pressure goes, the only reason Mahomes isn't getting pressures in the statistical sense is that he apparently has some kind of sixth sense in the pocket. He's crazy good at slipping away from defenders. Especially with this being his second year as a starter. He's kind of like the anti-Alex Smith, making his line look better, rather than running himself into pressure.

Brady has made a HOF/GOAT career out of that sixth sense.

From their forum:

ROFL

They got pissed when they found out about the "scared" post on here.

Now they're unleashing the homerism.

LMAO

I'm not a Lamar Jackson hater at all, but trying to put both Offenses on the same level is just plain stupid.

In playing the Baltimore Ravens a large defensive focus centers around QB Lamar Jackson.

In the first week against Miami, Lamar Jackson threw for 324 yards, 5 TDs and only rushed 3 times for 6 yards.

In the second week against Arizona he threw for 272 yards, 2 TDs, but rushed 16 times for 120 yards.

Jackson is 6-2, 219 pounds and is supposed to be able to run a 4.3 40.

Baltimore's backs Mark Ingram 5-9, 210, 27 carries, 157 yards, and 2 TDs and Gus Edwards 6-1, 238, 20 carries 67 yards. Ingram only has 2 catches for the two games.

WRs are Marquise Brown 12 catches for 233 yards and 2 TDs, Willie Snead 3 catches, 46 yards and 1 TD and Miles Boykin 2 catches, 16 yards and 1 TD.

TEs Mark Andrews 16 catches, 220 yards 2 TDs, Hayden Hurst 4 catches, 42 yards, and 1 TD and Nick Boyle 4 catches for 40 yards.

I think the key on defense is to try and prevent Jackson from getting outside and running but with that speed and quickness it will be hard to do.

Jackson didn’t even finish the game last year.. RGIII did... Their defense gave up 349 yards to a Rookie yesterday.... Mahomes has just has to decide which WR is going to have the huge game that morning..

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When he runs- he will be hit hard and will fumble.

Lol Baltimore's offense is not on our level.

I will say though that Lamar Jackson could be a pain in the ass to stop. He has really progressed as a passer. They have confidence in him as a passer. He threw it 37 times last week. They had him do a straight dropback in his own endzone. Brown is a dangerous receiver and Andrews is a matchup problem at TE. Jackson is smarter and more selective with his runs and they still do a good job of working in designed runs. It's a different offense from what we saw last year.

I just watched the Ravens/Cardinals condensed version...Jackson looked awesome.

He couldn't pass for shit last year...I'm not sure what he did, but damn.

I did notice that 95% of his runs were to the left....just squat a spy on that side.

Chiefs may be able to actually use "tape" to counter him...

How do you think the league will rig this one?

This is reminding me of the 49ers game last year.

49ers fans were talking all kinds of trash leading up to game. Saying they had a better offense.

So all the games are rigged, really? How is that done?

The Niners had only scored...46 points prior to that game, our Chiefs 80, so...???

Our D will need to play much better. Not sure the Ravens O can keep up with our O. The only way they do that is running the ball and long drives that keeps mahomes off the field.

I know Lamar had a couple of good games but I have zero concerns about him as he isn't very bright. Besides the wonderlic test which he scored lower than a janitor just listening to him talk you can tell he just isn't very bright.

He is the crazy athletic kid as school that just keeps moving up through grades because he is great at sports and the teachers move him along. Just listening to him talk you can tell he isn't a very bright guy in the least.

Just a athletic guy running around. By the end of the year he will be a C to C- QB, I would never want him even if we didn't have Mahomes.

I'm glad we are playing them, he will make some plays because he might be the most "athletic" but as dumb as a box of rocks so zero concern.

I just think its funny that Harbaugh thinks he has a great QB, even if he was just average in terms of intelligence he could be very good but Lamar is just plain dumb. Another win looking forward to the Lions ( just hate that turf)

So.....are you suggesting that he’s not very intelligent?

Weren't the Raiders suppose to beat the Chiefs and have a winning record this year?

Mahomes scored lower than Allen, Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield.

What does that say about his abilities to process information?

Ravens pass rush is still good. Need Fisher for this game.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Total QB Hits Produced Through Week 2<br><br>BAL: 21<br>NO: 18<br>GB: 17<br>MIN: 16<br>CAR, CHI, NE, NYJ: 15<br>BUF, IND: 14<br>ATL, CLE, PHI, SF: 13<br>JAX: 12<br>ARI, CIN, DET, PIT, TEN: 11<br>DAL, HOU: 10<br>KC, LAR, NYG OAK: 8<br>SEA, TB: 7<br>LAC, WAS: 6<br>MIA: 5<br>DEN: 2</p>&mdash; Johnny Kinsley (@Brickwallblitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brickwallblitz/status/1173981437697114112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They’ve also played two of the worst OL’s in football. Like maybe even the two worst.

People repeat this every game like it is some magical game plan to beat Mahomes- but it never works.

Faders tried it last week and were still running at the end behind 3 scores.

I still don't understand why they didn't simply rule him out against the Raiders. Instead, he re-injured himself and set himself back. It didn't make any sense.

As I said before, a moron can't make it as an NFL quarterback for reasons that should be obvious. Lamar Jackson is no moron. His problem is speaking, not brain function.

Synthesis appears to simply be able to tell that he's "dumb as a box of rocks." Hard to argue with that logic.

Your post is written as if it was composed by an unintelligent person. Should I assume that you're an idiot?

Assuming that a person is dumb based on "what he sounds like," is reeruned.

Thinking that you are somehow better at evaluating QB talent than John Harbaugh, is stupid.

One of the toughest games on the schedule.

Thanks David Duke.

Same BS as last week. Opponent is way overblown.

No team with a RB pretending to be a QB is going to come into Arrowhead and win against our guy.

I don't care what his stats are, either.

I agree that was stupid as hell. And so predictable

Well, Baldinger has been impressed with him as a thrower, so you might be surprised on Sunday.

Fully expect this to be a shootout, with the Chiefs winning a close one.

Baltimore's defense has taken a step back, and their offense has definitely improved.

I'll be taking the over when Dartgod gets the Week 3 Gambling Challenge lines set.

Reports in the offseason indicated his primary focus was to run less. I don't know about this matchup. I felt pretty good about the run D until that 51 yard rip. and our CBs all seem to have William Bartee disease.

He had like 15 rushes last game. :LOL:

Isn't that about half his average last year? { I don't know and amtoo lazy to look. I'm sure you have some sort of dashboard on-screen.)

13 rushes per start last year

Amazing thread. As a Ravens fan I had no idea that we were playing the greatest team ever assembled this weekend. It is quite funny how you all have turned into the Patriots fanbase though, just dismissing any other team who clearly isn't on your level. (we beat them too BTW, in NE....as 7-10 pt dogs.....multiple times....in way bigger games. Have you?) The Ravens downfall will be not having 2 of 3 CB available, but honestly don't even know why we are gonna show up. I mean look what happened last time when we had a QB who literally had a hard time completing a pass, and only lost because of a miracle by Mahomes on 4th and a million. Love the confidence though. You are going to see an offense unlike one you have never seen before coming out of Baltimore, that I can guarantee. Maybe go flip the tape on from the last 2 weeks and brush up on Lamar these days. Will it be enough to beat you guys in a shootout? Probably not, but if you think it is going to be easy I hope the players feel the same exact way. Cause it aint gonna be.

Kindly get ****ed in a timely manner!

Ridiculous. We're not pro-rape.

Umm...you are aware the Ravens just played Miami? They also played the worst team in the NFL, last season, in the Cardinals...who's QB is a rookie, making his 2nd start, on a terrible roster?

Baltimore looked good....but its impossible to gauge. Those two teams are in the bottom five and both have new HCs/QBs.

Miami might be the worst team I've ever seen....

It might get worse . . . the Dolphins are entertaining offers for Kenyon Drake.

Sorry, that rumor was posted by Jason La Canfora.

Speaking for myself, I'm ready to put a stop to this faux "rivalry" on Sunday.

There were pundits talking up the Faiders all week before our last game. Some of those guys were predicting that the Faiders would keep pace with the Chiefs while others were even talking about a Faider win. They even had the Faiders believing it for 15 minutes.

Merely because the last game against the Jacksons was a nail-biter in Week 14 and since the Jacksons have put up points and numbers against two of the worst teams in the league so far this year, we're supposed to be concerned or something.

I'm not buying it.

First home game of the season and an opportunity to shut down the Jackson hype once and for all? The Chiefs aren't going to screw this up. I fully expect to dominate the Jacksons from start to finish.

FAX

Cliffs notes please. That was just too many letters to focus on.

Caw, caw, cawk

Potentially the best game of the week. Could be a pretty good shootout.

A clarifying question if I might? We are pro-dolphin rape, correct?

??

cheefs by 60

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Mahomes scored a 24 which is average Lamar scored a 13 which is lower than a typical janitor. Again he isn’t a complete idiot but not not the brightest stick. Has a feel of RGIII who was good for a little bit but just can’t keep it up with the punishment he takes.

Look I get that I am getting roasted for making the comment but if he has a great year this year and next I’ll eat my words and call myself a dumbass. But I have a feeling that by the end of next year he is either A) not starting or B) regressed back to a average QB. Most QB’s get hot for short periods. I’ll refer back down the road either way but just taking the full package I’m not worried in the least.

This is going to be a shoot out hands down. They have a great defense also. This one makes me worry. But, Chiefs win!:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Chiefs 62-3

Forfeiting would be the less embarrassing move, but it would piss off the network.

And Patrick Miracle Mahomes is just toying with the opposition.

Third and twenty is prime TD opportunity. Fourth down. Whatever.

My goodness, I just watched the highlights from the Ravens-Cards game and AZ had guys so wide open in the secondary that Andy Reid himself would have been surprised. I’ll be shocked if Mahomes doesn’t hit a few long TDs again. The ravens might get those too against our secondary, but wow has the Ravens secondary taken a step back from last year.

New Era
 

Mahomes is the real deal. But so is Lamar. This is not the same Ravens you saw last year. What you saw last week wasn’t the Ravens plan. What you saw was the Ravens 5th and 6th preseason games. They will unveil the new era Sunday. Expect a lot of 2 and 3 TE sets motioned wide. Expect Lamar to run for 100+. Expect long slow 12 yard chunk plays. Expect the Ravens to let the play clock to get to 5 seconds and under not only to milk the clock but to mitigate that crazy noise y’all bring. Expect 40 minutes TOP for the Ravens. It’s the Mahomes/Brady approach. If they aren’t on the field they can’t score. You may still win but this will be how the Ravens win. I’m so pumped for this game because of how good both teams are. I hope for no injuries for both teams.

Also, Wacko for Flacco brought us that Lombardi. Both franchises have two championships. GO RAVENS!

The Ravens and especially Lamar look much improved, this should be a great game.
Time of possession doesnt matter as much when playing the Chiefs though, we can score in seconds. Our defense is still figuring itself out but after watching the Ravens secondary, this should be easy for Patrick to find open WRs everywhere.
The Ravens will be in the mix for the Playoffs but this week will be a loss for them.

GO CHIEFS!!

Lamar just does not have the noodles to make it long term as s good qb. Again my money goes on him being out of the league by the end of next year or he will regress back to average .

Expect things to be different for the Ravens because they're not playing Miami or Zona.

Mods, can you change this guy's name to 52stabzu?

Hard to say if their defense actually is good as they’ve faced the worst team in the league, and a rookie qb. They better wear their brown pants Sunday to face Mahomes.