Me too! Did you do Penobscot, Kennebec or Dead River?

It's one of my favorite New England states and I don't see it as that flat. It has Portland which I enjoy, adorable little hamlets dotting the coast all the way up, rocky rugged coast, sailing to the wilderness areas in the interior such as Moose Head Lake, great river rafting and skiing in the winter. Freeport, where my brother lives, is nice too with great shopping.

If you like sailing, and my family is into it, it's a nice state and not as crowded as Cape Cod.

The only job interview where a guy with "downs" offered me a job.

Yea bud you might wanna do a little more research on winters there compared to the Midwest.

You'll see consistent below zero temps. You'll see numerous -30 degree temps. You'll see crazy snow fall levels at times. You'll see wind following the snow that will knock your dick in the dirt.

You want to talk about a drive taking forever? The last time I drove across Kansas I was helping my cousin move from St. Louis to Los Angeles, driving a ****ing rental truck that wouldn't go over 55. After we got into the mountains it was beautiful scenery (or at least interesting scenery that was completely new to me) all the way to LA, but up until then, abject misery.

The worst part was thinking the shit would be over once I hit Colorado, only to realize that eastern Colorado is somehow actually worse than western Kansas. I think it was three or four hours before I could even see mountains on the horizon. Ugh.

They take pride in it.

License plates like *MSSHLE* and stuff.

ROFL I might offer some advice for the future.

If you go out to your rental car and it has Illinois plates, just go back in and demand a different car, like I did when I found a Daewoo in the spot that my rental car was supposed to be parked in at the Boston airport.

Maine and Vermont are two of our most beautiful states IMO, but I didn't get a ticket in either of them. :D

and you didn't get the gig?

I view Amnorix as the resident expert on New England, so I'm convinced that my take on Maine is correct. If you like Maine and wish to change my opinion, you may send a check to help cover my $129 fine. I will start a gofundme called, "Pay Here To Make People Not Hate Maine."

Compared to Maine, yes. But keep in mind that it's Maine we're comparing against. The state that other states keep at arm's length.

I'm now at Denver International Airport waiting for my missing bag, because some illiterate Maine yokel probably put it on the wrong flight.

y u go maine?

On the subject of desolate drives, I'll weigh in.

I'm in the minority, but I don't mind the big flat vistas in Kansas and Wyoming and eastern Colorado. I like seeing the horizon and I like the vastness of it.

It's been a while since I've crossed Illinois/Indiana/Ohio, but I remember it being less interesting than the plains. I couldn't see the horizon, but what I was seeing wasn't overly interesting.

I drove from Boston to Caribou on this Maine debacle. That's a long way. I took the interstate up, and then took the coastal highway for part of the way back. The coastal highway was an annoyance because it was slower and you couldn't see the coast other than a few places. The highway actually wasn't bad because it had some variation in terrain and the trees were different than I usually see. But the speed traps ruined it.

Honestly, the worst drives I've done have been in Georgia. It's perfectly flat and all you can see are trees on either side, and they close in on you. The trees there didn't look natural for some reason. It almost seemed like someone planted the trees just to block the views. Those drives have been pretty monotonous.

Because it there.

Maine is a cheap shot thug. We don't want Maine on our team. Maine is the Broncos of states. That's why their site is called the Orange Maine.

Remember the Maine!

Huh, that's not really what we've heard. It may be like that in areas but from what I understand Cheyenne rarely sees much snow, and when it does, the wind blows it away. But yeah, the wind is what we hear about, I guess it's pretty relentless. Haven't heard anything about sub zero temps either. But you can be sure I'll be watching the weather there this winter.

And even if they are worse, I'm hoping the dry summers make up for it. Because where I'm at now the weather pretty much sucks year around. We get some nice days here and there, but never for an extended amount of time and we don't know far enough ahead of time to be able to plan for them. It's a constant game of Russian Roulette.

Oh I wasn't sure if your post was about Cheyenne or Wyoming in general. Then yes, Cheyenne is better than say western Wyoming weather-wise.

Fort Collins, CO is nice but I suppose Cheyenne is close enough and the cost of living is much cheaper than Fort Collins.

That's why we're looking up that way. Anywhere in Colorado is insane. Housing is a little higher in Cheyenne than it is here, but our property taxes would be 50% of what we're paying here. And no state income tax. And way less people.

Yeah, I would think that Cheyenne's climate is similar to that of Fort Collins, which is quite tolerable. I also hear a lot about the wind in Wyoming, but I haven't been outside there enough to have any knowledge of it. I kind of like Cheyenne as a town. It's a bit small, but I think I could live there. Same with Laramie, and Laramie has the advantage of being a college town.

I drove through Maine a couple of years ago. I kind of enjoyed the lobster roll I had. And I didn't have any problem speeding across the state although now that Rain Man explains the history, it's probably because I had Missouri plates and the people up there are grateful we got them in the Union.

Good point. That's probably a free pass. Without Missouri, they'd all be speaking Puerto Rican.

Maybe they pile the lobster higher on lobster rolls they make for people who pull up in Missouri vehicles too. :shrug:

Hey, you're close by, can you go spend a week there in January and report back to me? I would but then I'd have to drive across Nebraska two more times. I'm sure you understand.

I bet that's it. I had Illinois plates, and Maine-ards probably don't know where that is.

Glad to do it. I'll charge you my normal hourly rate. You know it's worth it.

On my road trips to KC that is the worst part. That and the crazy mountains on 78.

The only Issue with that area is I-80 between Cheyenne and Laramie in the winter. As I'm sure you well know, it's only about 50 miles, but that stretch can get brutal. The whiteouts are as bad as it gets. There have been some huge pileups on that road because of zero visibility.

How can anyone approve of a state that only has one syllable in its name?

You got it. One frosty mug of root beer coming up.

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I have to wonder how many times he's been to be qualified? I have family there. So I'm more of an expert. It's different when you live there, but you're free to hate it. I just think you missed the best parts. Their toll highways are no fun and lobster is always expensive but you can get a big fat roll at some joints.

So where in Maine did you go?

So call it Mainiacs instead. They get called that.

Did you guys who went to Maine go at the right time of season to enjoy all the blueberry goodness? They have blueberry flavored EVERYTHING.

Here's a link to one website. Blueberry BBQ sauce anyone? Blueberry honey? I remember being up there and thinking WTF is with blueberries in everything. Then I learned that Maine produces 99% of America's blueberries.

https://wildblueberryproducts.com/online-catalog.html

Uhhh...I guess. A quick Google search turns up all kinds of fun stuff.



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They are the BEST blueberries in the whole world. Little things bursting with flavor. I buy 'em frozen here at Costco and make my own sauce.

We pick 'em wild up there during the summer.

They just give you the while lobster, a loaf of bread, and ramakin of melted butter.

There's a Connecticut Lobstah roll which is done with butter and the mayo one which is really a lobster salad.

There was a food truck in Maine I got a lobstah roll from 3 yrs ago, that was not expensive and loaded with lobster piled high falling out of the roll of bread. Really, a very generous serving. Best to go down to the wharfs in Portland to the fresh fish markets for a freshly caught lobster and make your own. They're not expensive that way. You can even taste some of the saltwater brine in a freshly boiled lobster— which I like. It's not too strong but makes if taste like it's from the sea more.

I can see how it came about. Some colonial guy was asking representatives "what shall your state be called?"

Dapperly dressed Boston guy with powdered wig: "We would like to be known as the Commonwealth of Massachusetts."

Classy looking Providence guy in blue minuteman regalia: We shall be the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations."

Goober in Elmer Fudd hat from Augusta with slow redneck accent. "Maine."

You can't claim to be an expert and then talk up boring lobster lettuce sandwiches. Your credibility was destroyed with the whole lobster roll thing. Sorry about that. Pick some other state.

This makes a lot of sense because blueberries are the most boring fruit on the planet. I've never understood the appeal of blueberries. Every other berry has a hundred times more flavor.

I just despise Maine more with every day that passes.

Won't be an issue now anyway. I heard Maine failed its physical. Has MRSA.

Well whether or not a lobster sandwich is boring or not, depends on where you ordered it—and a matter of opinion. Lobster isn't cheap in most places—even Maine. I don't think one category is enough to dismiss my experiences. Afterall, even if you live near that state, doesn't mean you have been to most places there. But like I said, you're entitled to hate it.

Again, where did you go? Besides their toll roads, which are annoying. I agreed with you there.

I can't believe some mischievous mod hasn't renamed you to Rain Mainer yet.

I agree most blueberries are flavorless—just not Maine blueberries.

Or even Maine Man would work.

I drove from Boston to Caribou and back. On the way up, I took the interstate, and I actually kind of liked it. Portland had some interesting stuff to see and the terrain was nice. On the way back I kind of took the coastal highway, at least partway, and it was kind of a mistake. You couldn't see coast, but you could see a lot of senior citizens slowly pulling onto the highway from side roads.

I care enough about exposing this whole lobster roll scam that I'm going to make it my mission for a while.

Oh, okay. Thanks for telling me that.

L.O.L.

Come sailing with me next time on my brothers sail boat and we'll scuba dive for 3 fresh lobstahs to cook up for the most magnificent lobstah' roll you ev'r had. Pick fresh mussels of the rocky cliffs, cook 'em in wine. Finish it all off with a Maine blueberry cobbler. you can bring y'er wife. It just means we'd have to catch 6 lobstahs.

Can I come with? I'll take back all of those horrible things I've said about Maine.

I think Rainman needs to check in with his gynecologist and adjust his menopausal hormone therapy.

Maine is a great place to visit. We do a NE vacation about every 5 years, on average.

1) It's not a state to drive around looking for something at every corner.
2) Don't order a lobster roll. What the hell? It's Maine. That's for street carts in Boston that sell bread, mayo and some pre-cooked lobster.
3) You have to know what you're doing. Do some research.
4) There are some of the most beautiful B&B's right on the Atlantic.
5) Do some research.

I'd go on, but Rainman has his mind made up that Maine sucks. So be it.

Oh come on Rain Man, how else do you think we got the Maine Event. Just think, the movie theaters would not be in business without them.

You're only seeing the Maine they want you to see. You're not seeing the highway patrol abuse and the underground lobster fights and the bed and breakfast trafficking networks. Most Canadian terrorists enter the U.S. via Maine, and while I was driving I heard a news story on the radio about a lobster boat operator who was sentenced for threatening two guys on a skiff. Is that the type of America you want?

If you can buy them off the boats it's a lot cheaper. As with any seaport, any saltwater fish, etc.

I lived in Aransas Pass Tx, ate shrimp 3 days a week and some other fish a couple days per week. Buying direct off the boat or even the side vendors along the highway was cheaper than a store.

Had a great week in Maine last year. Ate at a place that advertised the world's largest lobster rolls. I don't know if they were really the largest but it was pretty darn good. Stayed at a little inn there on a small lake, spent time kayaking, hiking, seeing Acadia. Comparing Bangor to St. Joe. Had some real lobster at one of those restaurants on the docks there, was awesome.

It's very rural and slow paced there, but the natural beauty is just amazing. No traffic, no big city problems. Made me want to buy a big pickup and move out there.

Ain't that the truth. Here's one where I stayed on the mid-coast. Whole area was very nice.

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Heh. Out of time.

Great, BEP broke the damn thread

What happened? The thread has MAIDS now

LMAO

They were probably stealing his lobsters or lobster traps. They're lucky they didn't get shot.

I drove from Bangor to Quebec city and it was a beautiful drive, tho' I was pissed about having to do it at first when our little plane broke down.

Can also take a ferry to Nova Scotia.

FIX YOUR DAMN POST BEP

I was in the middle of a town dodging senior citizens, but I think the lobster boat actually rammed the skiff. They said something about the skiff guys climbing onto a pontoon. It made me laugh. That's not the type of crimes we see in Colorado.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people like rugged coastline and fresh seafood others like container ships in the middle of the ocean and Panda Express. :)

It is illegal to scuba dive for lobster here in Maine. Trap only. At least $200/pop if caught.

Stephen King?

I didn't know that but I wasn't being serious about actually diving for one. I got the idea though, because my ex did it, but I think it was Gloucester Mass. It was a big one too. Said it was delicious.

I've since called my brother to ask and he didn't know either. I looked it up and found NH outlaws it too.

Okay then, we'll lay some traps and have a few beers while we wait.

My brother has run into him. Said he's weird. A true Mainiac.

Holy crap, we have a Mainah here? Welcome.

Ouch. LMAO

Why can’t I pump my own gas in New Jersey damnit??

And in retrospect, Maine only robbed me of $129 while Vietnam robbed me of $200.

Maybe the lesson here is that I should travel less.