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TambaBerry 03-20-2017 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791432)
Are you drafting for the Broncos? Because it seem like you should be.

Bengals and Lions, I'll make sure to draft terrible players.

chiefscafan 03-20-2017 08:49 PM

So just curious when is his time officially up

RealSNR 03-20-2017 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12791459)
So just curious when is his time officially up

1:39 AM

If he doesn't get the pick in today, I'd glad to fire up a pick for the Chargers around 6 AM and get this thing moving again.

Rain Man 03-20-2017 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12791467)
1:39 AM

If he doesn't get the pick in today, I'd glad to fire up a pick for the Chargers around 6 AM and get this thing moving again.

Be sure to make it someone who is extremely injury prone. The Chargers' system tends to favor those guys.

CleveSteve 03-20-2017 09:42 PM

I think Crow just wants to let time expire so he gets to pay the slotted salary for #8 instead of #7.

CleveSteve 03-20-2017 09:42 PM

#ADayWithoutDraftPicks

CleveSteve 03-20-2017 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12791392)
I would take your guy just for the fact to be a dick

Tamba I'm gonna take the shit outta your guy.

TambaBerry 03-20-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12791530)
Tamba I'm gonna take the shit outta your guy.

whatever interests you sexually is your perogerative

Rain Man 03-20-2017 10:05 PM

Now that I think about it, I bet the Chargers got stuck in traffic on their way to the airport. They don't know Los Angeles yet, and the drive to LAX is a nightmare.

RealSNR 03-21-2017 12:51 AM

kccrow is currently doing his best impression of Manti Teo's dead girlfriend. Gotta say... it's a pretty damn good one.

**** it. I'm picking. I want this thing to move along.

Speaking of Manti Teo's fake girlfriend, you know who else is dead? Junior Seau. The Chargers might be drafting the next version with this pick. I mean of Seau, not the fake dead girlfriend

The San Diego Chargers select Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama

It's a reach, but it's either that or take one of these WRs. And in terms of what's going to help the team the most, another ****ing WR just isn't going to get the job done.

CleveSteve PM'd

staylor26 03-21-2017 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12791669)
kccrow is currently doing his best impression of Manti Teo's dead girlfriend. Gotta say... it's a pretty damn good one.

**** it. I'm picking. I want this thing to move along.

Speaking of Manti Teo's fake girlfriend, you know who else is dead? Junior Seau. The Chargers might be drafting the next version with this pick. I mean of Seau, not the fake dead girlfriend

The San Diego Chargers select Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama

It's a reach, but it's either that or take one of these WRs. And in terms of what's going to help the team the most, another ****ing WR just isn't going to get the job done.

CleveSteve PM'd

Mother ****er! I thought for sure Foster was going to fall to me.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 03:49 AM

With the 8th pick in the CP Mock Draft, The Carolina Panthers select Leonard Fournette, Running Back, Louisiana State University

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/...FL-670x447.jpg

The Panthers want to get back to their roots of being a run-first LOS-dominator. No running back in this very deep class provides the sheer power that Fournette does, and while some may question the selection of a running back this early, Ezekiel Elliot's dominance last season shows that the position can still make a significant impact to a team right away. The addition of Fournette will take a large amount of pressure off of Cam Newton, who has essentially shouldered the offense since they lost Deangelo Williams' productivity. This will also move Jonathan Stewart back to a supplemental role, where he was more effective in the past.

TambaBerry 03-21-2017 05:52 AM

Bengals select O.J. Howard,TE
Alabama

TambaBerry 03-21-2017 05:54 AM

I can't find Marco Polo post, I'm on my phone can someone please help me out by messaging him?

BossChief 03-21-2017 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12791710)
I can't find Marco Polo post, I'm on my phone can someone please help me out by messaging him?

Done

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 06:18 AM

I appreciate it moving along, but weren't we supposed to just skip over crow and he could pick his player afterwards?

TambaBerry 03-21-2017 06:45 AM

Thanks for the help, I was running late this morning.

TambaBerry 03-21-2017 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12791719)
I appreciate it moving along, but weren't we supposed to just skip over crow and he could pick his player afterwards?

If he's not here though, I'd rather the pick be made. Foster was my pick for the Bengals if he was there though.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-21-2017 07:42 AM

No white players from Utah have been picked. Not the Sacc mock draft I was promised.

Marco Polo 03-21-2017 08:33 AM

The Bills have no depth at WR outside Sammy Watkins. To open up the offense a bit more, they get some much needed help.

The Buffalo Bills select Mike Williams, WR, Clemson.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 09:09 AM

OP updated.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 09:27 AM

I know it's a long shot.....but if kccrow doesn't post or make his pick when he's up again....he's out of the mock. I'll just take over his teams.

staylor26 03-21-2017 09:45 AM

The New Orleans Saints select John Ross, WR, Washington

I definitely didn't want to have to draft Cooks replacement with my first pick, but given the way the board fell, this is probably my best option. Not my top WR on the board, but he's the best fit, and his elite speed makes him worthy of being a top 15 selection. Sidney Jones would've been my pick here before the injury.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 09:49 AM

http://www.claxonmarketing.com/wp-co...4/11/reach.jpg

DJ's left nut 03-21-2017 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12791873)
The New Orleans Saints select John Ross, WR, Washington

I definitely didn't want to have to draft Cooks replacement with my first pick, but given the way the board fell, this is probably my best option. Not my top WR on the board, but he's the best fit, and his elite speed makes him worthy of being a top 15 selection. Sidney Jones would've been my pick here before the injury.

No such thing as a reach if the player's a great fit and you won't get another shot at him (and you wouldn't have; I'm not sure he'd have made it past Denver's spot but I know he wouldn't have made it past SFs).

It's a muddy-ass middle that's built for trade-downs but a solid move in this kind of exercise.

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12791880)

I don't think this is a huge reach at all. He was already a 1st rounder before the record 40 time.

chiefscafan 03-21-2017 10:02 AM

Ross would've never made it past Titans

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:02 AM

The oldest living Cleveland Brown, Ara Parseghian, makes his way to the stage with a card in hand.

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townn...e6e1.image.jpg

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12791893)
No such thing as a reach if the player's a great fit and you won't get another shot at him (and you wouldn't have; I'm not sure he'd have made it past Denver's spot but I know he wouldn't have made it past SFs).

It's a muddy-ass middle that's built for trade-downs but a solid move in this kind of exercise.

Agreed

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12791901)
Ross would've never made it past Titans

Eat shit Pest :D

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:04 AM

He's still walking, so we'll note that he had a 14-game career with the Browns during the 1948 and 1949 seasons. As a halfback, he ran the ball 44 times for 166 yards and had 3 receptions for another 33. He scored two touchdowns.

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:05 AM

Rain Man really was a great addition LMAO

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:07 AM

He's almost there. He's working his way up the stairs.

He was part of two AAFC championship teams, playing alongside Hall of Famers Otto Graham and Marion Motley, and who can forget that kicking tackle, Lou Groza.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:07 AM

Alllllmost there.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:08 AM

Oops, he dropped his card. Just a minute.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:09 AM

With the 1-12 pick in the 2017 draft, the Cleveland Browns select Mitchell Trubisky, Quarterback, North Carolina.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:12 AM

I'm really torn on that pick. My hunch says I should go with Deshone Watson, and he would be a better fit for the Browns as they stand. But Trubisky has good stats and may be the better long-term fit if he survives the first couple of seasons. He seems to be a safer bet, particularly to get the Browns competitive again.

What do you think? Right decision or wrong decision?

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791921)
I'm really torn on that pick. My hunch says I should go with Deshone Watson, and he would be a better fit for the Browns as they stand. But Trubisky has good stats and may be the better long-term fit if he survives the first couple of seasons. He seems to be a safer bet, particularly to get the Browns competitive again.

What do you think? Right decision or wrong decision?

ROFL covering all your bases, eh?

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12791923)
ROFL covering all your bases, eh?

I'm just going to start calling him Brian or something. It's too confusing. I meant the Deshaun one.

And why is every wide receiver over the past ten years named Mike Williams? Stop it, people. If your last name is Williams, stop naming your kid Mike.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:17 AM

Ara Parseghian is headed back down the stairs now.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:18 AM

Almost down now. Two more steps.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:18 AM

Okay, he's down. Now he's walking back to the table.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:19 AM

Annnnnd, he's back. Arizona is now up and the pm is sent.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791921)
I'm really torn on that pick. My hunch says I should go with Deshone Watson, and he would be a better fit for the Browns as they stand. But Trubisky has good stats and may be the better long-term fit if he survives the first couple of seasons. He seems to be a safer bet, particularly to get the Browns competitive again.

What do you think? Right decision or wrong decision?

I think Trubisky should've gone to the Chargers, truth be told.

As for the Browns - I just know so little about what kind of offense they'll actually try to run. He's not an 'all systems' type of QB - I don't think the arm talent is quite on par with those top 10 kind of passers. But put him in the right system and he can put up numbers on par with those guys because he appears to be a smart player.

A poor man's Matt Ryan? Hell, a poor man's Phillip Rivers.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12791932)
I think Trubisky should've gone to the Chargers, truth be told.

As for the Browns - I just know so little about what kind of offense they'll actually try to run. He's not an 'all systems' type of QB - I don't think the arm talent is quite on par with those top 10 kind of passers. But put him in the right system and he can put up numbers on par with those guys because he appears to be a smart player.

A poor man's Matt Ryan? Hell, a poor man's Phillip Rivers.

Which QB would you have taken? Or would you have taken a different position?

In my opinion, Cleveland is in a situation where I think they have to have a QB to make progress. Maybe you put Kessler in for another year and groom a QB, but they have to have a QB.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12791907)
Eat shit Pest :D

Love you too. ROFL

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12791943)
Love you too. ROFL

That's the thing I do love you. Why must you be so mean?

:(

The Franchise 03-21-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12791944)
That's the thing I do love you. Why must you be so mean?

:(

I had to call someone out. Everyone has made good picks so far.

staylor26 03-21-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12791947)
I had to call someone out. Everyone has made good picks so far.

Which is exactly why I was ****ed when my pick came up :cuss:

Ross and Thomas on rookie deals for the next few years is sexy though. Could be one of the best duos in the league, and one of the best trios when you include Snead.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791939)
Which QB would you have taken? Or would you have taken a different position?

In my opinion, Cleveland is in a situation where I think they have to have a QB to make progress. Maybe you put Kessler in for another year and groom a QB, but they have to have a QB.

I probably would've gone edge rusher for them there but Trubisky is a solid value there as well.

My logic would be the same as it was with SF - that team SUCKS. Horribly. If you're a team that is at the top of this draft because of some bad luck and you still need a QB (i.e. the Jets), I think you can justify a reach because you may not be drafting that high next year.

Personally I'd be shocked if the Browns and 49ers aren't in the top 5 again next year and able to draft a QB again that's a higher ceiling guy than Trubisky. But with a 1st committed to him, they aren't going to move on so they're hamstrung a little (though I guess it could allow them a good trade-back similar to what TN did).

DJ's left nut 03-21-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12791947)
I had to call someone out. Everyone has made good picks so far.

See what I mean? We've become sane and reasonable somehow.

Though I've already seen reports that Foster told the Chargers doctors to **** off and die when they started the team physical, so that situation may get worse before it gets better. Everyone knows that the Chargers have a well-settled history of handling delicate personnel issues and odd temperaments well.

We shall see...

chiefscafan 03-21-2017 10:35 AM

Hmm Rain man I'm not sure bout Mitchell.


He has been a browns fan for years so bringing a championship to Browns would be huge to him.


My problem with him is he couldn't beat QB out last year he is a one year wonder that worries me I would've taken Watson very underated.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 10:36 AM

Rain man, since you're a newbie I'm gonna ask if you remembered to PM Direckshun.

Did you remember to PM Direckshun?

Rain Man 03-21-2017 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12791959)
Rain man, since you're a newbie I'm gonna ask if you remembered to PM Direckshun.

Did you remember to PM Direckshun?

I did indeed. In fact, there was a small ceremony to mark the event where a young girl threw flower petals.

chiefscafan 03-21-2017 10:39 AM

Titans crossing players off of list getting picked recently . It's looking like with second first rounder Titans are looking for best available player available.

RealSNR 03-21-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12791959)
Rain man, since you're a newbie I'm gonna ask if you remembered to PM Direckshun.

Did you remember to PM Direckshun?

Reading is fun-duh-mental

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=123

RealSNR 03-21-2017 10:46 AM

Also, that's my bad on leaping too soon on the San Diego pick. I should have just let us skip over the Chargers. I'll definitely just take a chill pill next time.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791963)
I did indeed. In fact, there was a small ceremony to mark the event where a young girl threw flower petals.

lol my bad thanks

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12791893)
No such thing as a reach if the player's a great fit and you won't get another shot at him (and you wouldn't have; I'm not sure he'd have made it past Denver's spot but I know he wouldn't have made it past SFs).

It's a muddy-ass middle that's built for trade-downs but a solid move in this kind of exercise.

Welp. That sounds familiar.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12791968)
Also, that's my bad on leaping too soon on the San Diego pick. I should have just let us skip over the Chargers. I'll definitely just take a chill pill next time.

You're fine. If it was past the 1st round....I'd have no problem with waiting. But that pick needed to be made. Shit...he isn't even here yet....so it would have ****ed up the mock even more, the longer he waited to pick.

staylor26 03-21-2017 11:19 AM

He supposedly read the PM last night and still didn't make the pick. Strange.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 11:19 AM

Only one pick away from BossChief winning the draft.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12791949)
I probably would've gone edge rusher for them there but Trubisky is a solid value there as well.

My logic would be the same as it was with SF - that team SUCKS. Horribly. If you're a team that is at the top of this draft because of some bad luck and you still need a QB (i.e. the Jets), I think you can justify a reach because you may not be drafting that high next year.

Personally I'd be shocked if the Browns and 49ers aren't in the top 5 again next year and able to draft a QB again that's a higher ceiling guy than Trubisky. But with a 1st committed to him, they aren't going to move on so they're hamstrung a little (though I guess it could allow them a good trade-back similar to what TN did).

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12791957)
Hmm Rain man I'm not sure bout Mitchell.


He has been a browns fan for years so bringing a championship to Browns would be huge to him.


My problem with him is he couldn't beat QB out last year he is a one year wonder that worries me I would've taken Watson very underated.


If I went edge rusher, though, I'm giving up on Nate Orchard, who I still think has potential. He was a second-round pick two years ago, wrestled a starting job from Mingo at the end of his rookie season, and then went out for the year in Week 2 or something like that in 2016. I think he'll come back and be serviceable at a minimum.

And yeah, I really wanted to take Watson, but I figured Trubisky was a safer pick. We'll see if that plays out well or poorly.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12791999)
If I went edge rusher, though, I'm giving up on Nate Orchard, who I still think has potential. He was a second-round pick two years ago, wrestled a starting job from Mingo at the end of his rookie season, and then went out for the year in Week 2 or something like that in 2016. I think he'll come back and be serviceable at a minimum.

And yeah, I really wanted to take Watson, but I figured Trubisky was a safer pick. We'll see if that plays out well or poorly.

garrett plus ogbah is a very nice young tandem for the edge rush. Orchard has actually played the run a lot better than he has rushed the passer since being drafted. Carl Nassib also did pretty well when they went to a four man front (that they'll be running under williams) towards the end of last season. at this point after drafting garrett, orchard is the 4th or maybe 5th (behind Tyrone Homes) DE.

Rain Man 03-21-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleveSteve (Post 12792017)
garrett plus ogbah is a very nice young tandem for the edge rush. Orchard has actually played the run a lot better than he has rushed the passer since being drafted. Carl Nassib also did pretty well when they went to a four man front (that they'll be running under williams) towards the end of last season. at this point after drafting garrett, orchard is the 4th or maybe 5th (behind Tyrone Homes) DE.

I was assuming that Orchard would stay at OLB. No?

staylor26 03-21-2017 11:43 AM

With Garrett and Ogbah, I think Cleveland is set at edge rusher (nice depth with Nassib and Orchard too). I love the Browns draft so far Rain Man!

Rain Man 03-21-2017 11:46 AM

I'm hearing that the Browns are shifting to a 4-3, so I'm assuming that their lineup would like something like this:

DE - Ogbah
DT - Meder
DT - Shelton
DE - Garrett (Nassib as backup)
OLB - Collins
OLB - Orchard
MLB - Kirksey (Davis as backup)

Does that look reasonable, clevesteve?

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12792032)
I was assuming that Orchard would stay at OLB. No?

That's not clear at this point... I'm not sure he's fast enough to play linebacker for Williams. The Browns are going full-on four man front now and, as you know, Orchard played DE at Utah, and the biggest knock on him was his athleticism. The hosts of the Browns' official radio show (though they are not given information directly from the organization) expect he will be considered a DE by the new staff. One of the guys is Matt Wilhelm, so it's not like it's just a couple of posers like us.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12792046)
I'm hearing that the Browns are shifting to a 4-3, so I'm assuming that their lineup would like something like this:

DE - Ogbah
DT - Meder
DT - Shelton
DE - Garrett (Nassib as backup)
OLB - Collins
OLB - Orchard
MLB - Kirksey (Davis as backup)

Does that look reasonable, clevesteve?


It's a possibility, I'm not sure it's settled yet. Most expect that the third linebacker will be Demario Davis, but it's just a guess at this point as I'm not sure Williams is sure yet what it will be. If I had to guess, I'd put it like this:

LE: Ogbah, Nassib
NT: Shelton, Meder
3T: Des Bryant, Cooper/Gabe Wright
RE: Garrett, Holmes/Orchard

SLB: Collins, Schobert
MLB: Davis, Carder
WLB: Kirksey, Dom Alexander

Direckshun 03-21-2017 12:06 PM

Ducking in to say that I know I'm on the clock. Give me 20 min.

BossChief 03-21-2017 12:13 PM

This would be a time the Eagles would be hitting the phones hard to try and trade down.

There are 10 prospects that could provide big time impact to them at positions of need.

I'd love to get a late third to move back 10 spots.

CleveSteve 03-21-2017 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12792071)
Ducking in to say that I know I'm on the clock. Give me 20 min.

well that's awfully considerate of you

staylor26 03-21-2017 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12792076)
This would be a time the Eagles would be hitting the phones hard to try and trade down.

There are 10 prospects that could provide big time impact to them at positions of need.

I'd love to get a late third to move back 10 spots.

This mock has me thinking we'll probably see a few of those after the top 10 picks.

BossChief 03-21-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12792081)
This mock has me thinking we'll probably see a few of those after the top 10 picks.

It's possible.

I mean, I'm pretty sure I know exactly who I'm gonna take, but I'm passing on at least 5 guys I can see (that are still on the board) that can be elite (top 5)at their position at the next level.

I'm usually running to turn in my card when it's my turn to pick...right now, if a team called with next years 2nd and this years first to move into the late first, I'd take it.

BossChief 03-21-2017 12:29 PM

You know what I keep thinking?

That Andy, John and Pedersen will work a trade for KC to move up into that 14 spot to take Pat Mahomes.

KC knows teams love to trade in front of them to take a QB, so I think they will move up to get one.

I just don't think they want to part with selections in this draft to do it.

BossChief 03-21-2017 12:31 PM

24 minutes and counting, Mr 20 minutes... We're waiting

Direckshun 03-21-2017 12:33 PM

The Cardinals were gearing up to take a player they really like, but scrapped those plans when they saw Watson still on the board.

The Arizona Cardinals take Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson.

Direckshun 03-21-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12792096)
24 minutes and counting, Mr 20 minutes... We're waiting

Consider this as your PM.

The Franchise 03-21-2017 12:35 PM

I think that's a bad fit for Watson....but that's just me.

Direckshun 03-21-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12792103)
I think that's a bad fit for Watson....but that's just me.

Value's too good. OL is solid, and the run game is top tier.

If Watson doesn't fit the offense, make the offense fit Watson.


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