They'll just blame it on Chris Pine

Please God recast WW

Oh, that's way too late to happen

Don Cheadle, and Mark Ruffalo are examples that it can and has been done in a CU format.

Dude, she's the main character. WB won't reshoot and re-edit the entire film before May. It's wY too late.

Now, if it flops, I suppose they have the option of recasting for Justice League but even that seems like a stretch.

If this turns out to be a dud I may never go to the theater again to watch one of their superhero movies until they have put out a few that are actually worth watching. How is it they can't seem to get a couple of decent writers to fix these scripts and/or get competent directors.

Your post really raises the key question for me. Both Suicide Squad and BvS were bad movies. How long will they be able to get away with that, before even the fan boys decide they've had enough? One good movie can generate some good will and placate people about earlier bad flicks, but they need that one good movie.

I did edit mine to say until they put out a couple of good ones.

The last DC superhero movie I went to see was The Dark Knight Rises. I haven't paid money to see any of the new ones.

The Flash movie has been taken off of Warner's schedule. It's getting a complete re-write and they're going in a completely different direction than the previous team. No director has been announced but Ezra Miller is still signed on as the main character.

Warner's is clueless when it comes to DC.

Any idea why they didn't use the CW version of Flash? That would make the most else we and be an easy tie in to drive traffficbto the CW series.

I'm sure there is some contract somewhere that prohibits it but if you're going to have a universe, have a universe. And I like the CW character. I think he would fly on the big screen.

DC has decided to keep the Cinematic Universe and the TV universe separate, which is why there's a different Superman, Flash, etc. from the films. They view them as separate entities and in a way, it's worked out well because the TV unit has been successful whereas the DCU has not, at least in terms of fan satisfaction.

Personally, I think the entire DCU has been an epic disaster from the start, with no plan of action. They've tried to emulate Marvel's success but instead of doing it slowly, with individual films that eventually culminate into the Justice League, they tried to do it with a bang and force the audience into caring for characters, despite the story. Obviously, it's not working.

Also, I have no idea is the WW film will work at the end of the day, as they're still editing. But hiring a female director, just because WW is a female lead character, was one of the dumbest moves any studio could make. This isn't a slight on Patty Jenkins (at least until I see the film) but I find it hard to believe that she was the most qualified person to direct WW.

Warner Brothers handling of the DCU has been atrocious and every time they try to "fix" it, it gets worse.

I think the DC Universe would have been in great hands with Nolan.

I agree but he just didn't want to do it any longer and wanted to move on.

BTW, have you seen the IMAX trailer for Dunkirk? I saw it before Rogue One.

Holy ****ing shit! It was absolutely insane. I've never seen or heard anything like it on a movie screen (or in real life).

Yeah. Nolan doesn't seem to want to stick with a project for a long time. I don't think I've ever seen a movie of his that I didn't like. His take on Batman was ****ing amazing.

I haven't seen the IMAX trailer, no. I did create a thread for it here though. I'll be watching that movie for sure.

I assume that they chose to take the DCU into dark and gritty territory because they didn't want to be accused of copying Marvel's success with their franchises on the big screen. But man, it just isn't playing out well for them, in spite of the success Nolan had with his version of Batman.

Pestilence is right, if they wanted to keep on that path, they should have docked a cargo ship full of money at Nolan's beachside home and gave him free reign to shape the DCU.

(And yeah, Dunkirk looks like it's going to be the "HOLY SHIT" movie of the summer)

I'm afraid the DCU movies are going ruin how cool The Flash is. CW is making The Flash one of the coolest super heroes we have. On the big screen in the clip he looks horrific and Leonard nerdy. Not cool. Barry Allen isn't necessary isn't so cool he is Dick Tracey but he isn't a geek.

That's a good take. Thanks. I wish they wouldn't **** up these amazing characters.

Ben Affleck is OUT as Batman stand alone director.

Shit's falling apart...

If I was in charge of casting, Gina Carano would be Wonder Woman.

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She actually looks like an amazonian princess and not a half starved runway model... and she can fight.

Gina would have been my first thought as well. Dunno about her ability to actually act the part as opposed to just looking it.

How many more times do you think he will get to play Batman? I wouldn't be heartbroken if his no longer being the only director leads him to leave the franchise and it ends with him in Justice League.

I love what he did in Argo but I have difficulty buying him as Batman.

To this day, despite all its flaws, chief among them the fact that none of the principal cast members knew how to act, one of my all time favorite movies is the original Conan the Barbarian.

If Arnie could pull that off, Gina could certainly pull off Wonder Woman.

Yikes. Is he still going to play the role?

Who cares? IMO he's too old anyway. If you're going to reboot it for the umpteenth time, might as well go with somebody younger.

Well... if you think he is to old for the role then you, perhaps, care as to whether or not he will play Bats again. :D

Agreed though, he should never have been cast to begin with unless it is the plan to kill him off and have him hand off the cowl to Damian Wayne and just get away from the Bruce storyline for a bit.

I just hope whoever they get it will be a good movie. Although I must admit I'm starting to OD a bit on the whole endless superhero movie parade.

They are using Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns archetype for Affleck's Batman interpretation.

I can only assume the answer is yes, because the Justice League is well into productions and almost ready for post.

That said, I think the true loss is Affleck the director, who's been very good for the better part of this decade.

I liked him as Batman, especially against Cavill's passive Supes, but I think the DCU is better served with him as a director as opposed to an actor.

But that bridge has already been crossed and it's too late for an entire DCU reboot (which should have happened after MoS).

Understood.

If I were Afleck I'd push to postpone the solo film and encourage them to kill Bateman off somehow to divorce myself from the D.C.U.

So a few gossip sites I've read are speculating that Affleck backed out because he's having problems with alcohol. That and 'live by night' tanked and he's fearing back to back stinkers

Affleck is great as this Batman. Rumors are that Matt Reeves is on a list to take over or possibly David Fincher. I'd be real happy with either. I think Affleck is burned out a bit...Can't direct, act and screenwrite a huge movie as the Batman will be. He will still be Batman...No way he bails.

I have faith in Geoff Johns who was involved with Wonder Woman and is over seeing things with the dceu now.

I heard yesterday from a decent source that Affleck is considering dropping out altogether - no further screenplay work, no directing, no acting on The Batman.

I think it's probably overreaction because his latest film lost $95 million dollars and he's stressed out over that and the whole Batman fiasco but as of this week, it's a possibility he bails.

I've heard no mention of alcohol but the guy has had an incredibly busy schedule for the past few years, which led to the separation from his wife, and he's burned out.

Please let that be true. Not a fan of his Batman at all.

I heard Seth Rogen is going to take over the part of Batman.

Matt Reeves just followed Geoff Johns of DC. Really hoping this means he's directing the Batman.

I had no idea how badly Live by Night did.

I saw a commercial for The Accountant and thought 'man, what an absolute shitfest that appears to be'; Live by Night at least looked interesting in a period drama sort of way.

I figured if anything tanked that badly it would've been The Accountant but man oh man did Night bomb hard. Yanked from 96% of its theaters by week 3? Jesus.

P.S. The best choice for Batman is Alexandra Daddario. She should also play the Joker and Commissioner Gordon.

I actually thought The Accountant was pretty good. It had humor and action. Usually when you put those two together successfully you get a decent movie.

I thought it was pretty well done, outside of the depiction of autism. It was an interesting angle, but the whole overcoming autism through militaristic abuse was dumb to the point of being insulting.

Looks like they're going with matt reeves. I'd call that a pretty good choice.

Yep...Good news

Rumors of Affleck wanting out of the Batman role now....

Quit being a bitch, Ben.

Good. He ****ing sucked as Batman anyways.

It would be interesting if they can persuade Bale to reprise the role

Let this be the end of superhero movies

Non story rumor that Campea said talk with a huuuuuge grain of salt and said he didn't want anyone to run with it and dumb websites ram with it for clicks. Nothing to see here imo.

If this was from a legit report like Hollywood reporter or Variety I'd be concerned. It's just John Campea....

Also Affleck is playing the Frank Miller version and I don't think Bale would fit that mold. I've enjoyed both of them as Batman.

Booooooooooooooooooooooo.

They never should have made Superman v Batman the concept is just dumb and stupid. Hero vs Hero what was the point. They should have gone in a different way like Doomsday vs Justice League or Death of Superman and Batman would have been the one putting Justice League together because Superman could only do so much.


Supeman vs Batman was stupid

The dark knight returns method was fine by me....Adding Doomsday was a huge mistake. Snyder should've saved that and had a different bad guy. Also the ultimate cut of the movie was way better than theatrical but still not as great as it should've been .

They tried too hard to force a story and then had randomness that was unnecessary to make the movie longer like the part Supes was in the mountains trying find clarity and oh there is his dead earthly dad showing up in the mountains to have a talk with him. I would have thought maybe his space dad would have been a better cameo but lets be sure to put Keven Costner in a scene for no particular reason.

Yep...Def wasn't the best pacing movie and could've cut stuff out and added better things that the ultimate cut had.

Affleck was better than expected as Batman. Honestly, though, he only played the part in one (half) film so it's not like it's a big loss. But anyone can be Batman, really. It's more about the attitude than the actor. Batman is pretty much the superhero version of James Bond.

So it test screened two days ago, and the reactions are mostly positive.

Which is exactly what happened with MoS and BvS.

But I liked them both, so whatever.

FYP.

They had elements of storylines from Injustice, Death of Superman, Flashpoint Paradox and probably others I'm forgetting with mentions of Darkseid, Steppenwolf, Robin, Joker, etc while creating and killing off Doomsday in about 40 minutes total.

They tried to cram too much shit in one movie.

Matt Reeves is going to produce and direct The Batman now. Great news.

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Looks good...Hope it is

Still the most bad ass 'walkup music' of any of these characters.

I love that Conan-esque drum and bass beat, but I could do without the guitar.

You can **** off. That shit is awesome.

Still looking forward to this about as much as anything coming out this summer.

And there's a lot coming out this summer.

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Excited to see this...great final.trailer

Am I the only one that finds Snyder's WW theme music (the electric guitar thing) absolutely ****ing atrocious? It is jarring and just ****ing terrible. How is it a reflection of her as a character? She is powerful, graceful, and intelligent. That guitar shit should be paired with a methed out junkie sidekick clown of Joker's that gets wiped out in the first battle of a film.
I hope Snyder disappears for a long while like M. Night did. That would be terrific.

To answer the original question... probably yes. I think most people love it.

The guitar riff worked when she jumped in to melee with Doomsday signaling it was time to throw down, but as a main theme it's not a strong choice.

Eh I dig it. I'm not any authority on anything abstract but you see the picture of this beautiful (and very skinny) woman, but the audience knows she's a BAMF so maybe the music intentionally clashes with the picture of her to remind the audience that she's not just a pretty face?

IDK. It doesn't bother me.

This is gonna be great!

Why do ppl want to recast Wonder Woman? You want some huge big boned woman to play WW? Youll lose alot of sex appeal. This WW chic looks very good to me and at least based on previews and BvS she looks like a very interesting character.

I hope that wasn't pointed at my comment. I wasn't wanting a recast. Just commenting on the music.

any tits?

nope

I'll admit that I don't give 2 liquid sharts about this character but it looks to be the best film out of the DCU.

Alexandra Daddario it's a crime that she wasn't picked

Looks pretty good, but it really looks like she's powered down dramatically.