I think we've given Smith a fair shot Inmem. And he doesn't seem to have any chemistry either.

Inmem is just trolling

Alex has been in the same category for the last 5 games though. He's lost 4 of the last 5, and in the one win he had he only threw for 202yds and a 45% completion rate. Unless Alex improves, there's really not much to lose.

Bingo

****ing troll.

The Dallas defense sucks.

You should be banned from your own ****ing stupid thread.

Butt****ing moron.

Chiefs are still 2.5 games ahead of LA and 3.5 ahead of OAK and DEN.

I'm worried that Andy won't make the change bc of team morale the standings. He probably thinks starting Pat is a sign to the team that this year is in the tank, even though we see it differently.

Andy isn't done ruining him yet.
It takes time to take make a guy a game managing check down artist

Our schedule is easy from here on out.
/ KC media all last week.


No seroulsulyTHIS time, our schedule is easy from here on out.

It's no sign of tanking if the players want Mahomes to play... and they just might. Depends how good he has been in practice.

I think putting him in would only energize everyone else.

Smith ****ing sucks and is not going to “get it together”. He’s been in the league for 12 years and it’s only going to get worse from here.

That’s not true. I read it right here on CP that this is the year where everything starts to click for Alex.



I shit you not. .....I actually read that.

Exhibit A.



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You guys win, start Mahomes. I wouldn’t even be mad if he got hurt, it’s best for the team right? You guys are just impatient as ****, you got a new toy and can’t wait to open it.

Some of us are old and might die soon.

It's not about this season. It's never been about this season.

Houston had a decent defense in the beginning. Romo was done anyways. Just stop bitch boy.

**** YOU CUCK



Chiefs haven't started a first round prospect his rookie year in over 30 ****ing years. Be patient **** you we have been patient for ****ing 30 years asshole.

Yeah, we're impatient. It's only been about 50 years since he had a QB that wasn't anything more than a mediocre, middle of the road has been.

What’s 6 more games? Really dude? Be ****ing smart not a god damn reerun. Don’t you know we are the ****ing Chiefs and we have the worst luck ever? He’ll get hurt in a meaningless ****ing game. Just give him the nod after this season.

Alex Smith has trade value?

I don't understand the injury concern, Inmen. It's not like Mahomes will get 'extra lives' after this year to remain healthy. Nothing is guaranteed. He's just as likely to get injured next week as he was last week or in the future.

I get that, but at least he’ll get injured in a game he should have been in, not some meaningless bullshit game.

I think next week is 'meaningful' if he plays. Who knows what we would do? I'm not saying he's taking us to the SB this year -- he isn't. But the spark it might provide could make the team better.

He can be that much better for next year with having 6 games NFL experience. He can build that "chemistry" with the guys and know what he needs to work on this offseason.


I think you are a coward.


It won't ruin him it will benefit him and the team and provide a spark. Alex Smith is dead in the water and we will lose first round so why not give the kid experience.

He’ll be struggling to keep up with opposing teams due to our defense.

How does Mahomes create a spark for this piss poor defense? And I am coward, I don’t want him to get ****ing hurt when we have Smith. Let Smith finish this season out. Mahomes can create sparks in the off-season and pre-season as well. Plenty of time for that.

Giving up 9 points is piss poor? Then what is scoring only 9 points against the midgets?

Blame your ****ing coach. For some reason he’s stuck on shuffle passes and getting too cute.

I Will BLAME him.For STICKING with smiff

Yep and you should stick with him for these last 6 pointless games.

We’ll be one and done IF we make playoffs anyways. Mahomes will soon **** shit up!!!

He wouldn't need to get cute if his Quarterback had the balls to throw it deep and connect with the fastest player in the NFL.

Listen, it's all learning from here on out. Alex has proven that he cannot carry this team to a SB Win... Nothing to lose. Let the kid play.

He actually connected with Hill in double coverage for about 40+ yards.

This is the way I see it too. I want no part of anymore Childress influence. I also think Veach is off to a bad start. Ragland doesn't impress me and neither does the Erving signing. The kicker change was good, but other than that I sense nobody minding the store. They should have cut guys during the bye week and promoted from the practice squad. I have never been happy with the OL since Reid arrived either. Denver is heading for a high draft pick, start Mahomes now and we just might shock some people. The important thing is to start cutting guys this week.

I love you man, but you are cray. I wouldn't have believed it two weeks ago but now I think we see Mahomes at some point this year.

Smith really needs to dial it up if he is to match your optimism and keep the kid on the sidelines.

Lots of respected members here have changed today. Alex knows it. And as Reid said, Alex knows how this works.

Anybody else remember that time before 2016 when Doug Pederson was saying that Carson Wentz wasn't going to start and that he needed more time to develop? And then all of the sudden, after missing 3 preseason games, they went ahead and traded Bradford and rolled with Wentz from day one?

Yeah, that seems to have worked out well.

I disagree.

The fact that it is an easy schedule from here on out is why you start Mahomes. There is NO excuse for the bad QB play that Smith has been showing lately at this stage in his career with the time he's had in this offense. It's been a steady decline all season from game one, which he looked Brilliant, to good, to average, to bad and to terrible.

This team needs a spark. We all know Smith's ceiling and Mahomes ceiling is in a different universe....and if the past 5 weeks are what you are going to get out of Smith for the rest of the year then the Chiefs are better off seeing what Mahomes can do now. It won't take much for Mahomes to match Smith's output IMO.

If you stick with Smith then yes, this team is likely in the playoffs but you can pretty much guarantee that this team 1 and done. If you are happy with that then by all means, cheer for Smith and hope they Trade Mahomes during the off season.

If they go to Mahomes, they still likely make the playoffs in this division and could a much better team by playoff time. Worst case is what you get with Smith.

Mahomes has been running the scout team in practices. He hasn't been sitting around diddling himself like Tyler Bray has been doing on fake IR for the past 4-5 years.

And on the scout team, what's the most important job? RUN THE ****ING PLAY. It's not to "win" practices or impress coaches. It's to know what's in the goddamn playbook and execute each play with backups.

I was against starting Mahomes as of last week. I was all in favor of just sucking it up and dealing with Alex and his scaredy cat bullshit for another season. But now I'm ****ing done. I'm not watching another Chiefs game until the playoffs as long as I have to watch them duke it out with shitty ****ing teams and get into field goal fights.

Oh, and by the way, the defense was better today, but it was still the Giants. The defense still ****ing sucks, too. Another reason to not watch this pathetic team.

However, if Mahomes starts, I'm not going to miss a single second.

Now I know you are trolling.

This wasnt double coverage. The safety came over super late and would never have been im the play at all if the pass wasnt substantially underthrown.

I swear to god I’m not ****ing trolling, stop with that shit.

I believe you.
You're just stupid.

Houston? You said the Cowboys.

You’re a butt****ing moron, Clown

No point in continuing to play Alex. You can see the look on his face every time he gets hit or makes an errant throw, which is often. He's mentally done. He's tough, I'll give him that, but he doesn't have what it takes anymore (if he ever had it to begin with).

Alex actually had time to throw a lot of the day. He has no pocket presence and gets happy feet instantly.

Mahomes will make mistakes, but it's time to go to him. I know Reid won't make the move, but it's the right move. Getting 6 games under his belt would help him immensely in his preparation for next year. He would get some live game experience and would get a better idea on where he needs to improve. Going into next season with no regular season experience leaves us having no clue what we have in him.

Hanging on to Smith for the slim chance of winning in the playoffs is a fools errand. Everybody knows how this story ends.

Not only will Mahomes get the remaining games, but he will very likely get some playoff experience.

Dude he is already used to it he comes from Texas Tech. He will be right at home. ;)

And Alex isn’t screwing things up now?

Dumb, and childish...

4 home games in the last 6 games

3-1 at home with a loss from a legit team.

I can tell you that will change the way they are playing now the bills are the only possible win we can have and that’s just because they pretty much have given all the playmakers away and they are in rebuild mode. I assure you teams are tasting blood in the water when they play us and will be far less intimidated by the arrowhead affect, especially now that there’s a blueprint on how to beat us.

Chiefs will be fired up for Oakland, you better believe that. Also, we play ****ing Peterman/Taylor, Cutler, Brock/Trevor and McCown lol. Not scary by any means.

And don’t worry about the blueprint, any given Sunday.

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We lost to a 1-8 team not to mention practice squad wide receivers who made our secondary look bad.

I’d hate to start the 2018 season constantly reading updates on Mahomes knee. Constantly looking at twitter or CP. It would suck balls not knowing what the future holds for him, all because he needed a few snaps under his belt in a terrible season? See what I’m saying here? Why risk that shit?

I’d rather know that he’s healthy and moving around. Too many QBs went down this season and the same can happen for Pat. Don’t let him get hurt in a game where he should not have been playing. Not worth it.

Any given sunday, shit happens. How long have you been watching the NFL? It’s common for mediocre teams to lose to shitty teams.

Steelers almost lost to the Colts in Pittsburgh. I’m sure there’s bigger upsets, but I’m not worried about that shit. On to week 12 my friend. Let’s finish up this shitty season and start our stud.

LMAO

Tyrod will shred us

ROFL GTFOH fam

Hey Mahomes could get run over in the Chiefs parking lot going to practice. How about we get some of those rookie snaps out of the way now and that way next year won’t be such a rookie QB year what do you say? Like I said we have nothing to lose!

You’re allowing more risk by playing him. I know he can get injured at any time, but keeping him on the bench eliminates at least ONE possibility, right?

Lets stop with the Final Destination bullshit.

Mahomes development is more important than receiving a second or third round pick for Alex.

Play him now and let him get some game experience before he starts next year.

DeShawn Watson really gave you PTSD didn’t he ?

Game experience?

Mahomes has more arm talent than anyone in the league not named Rodgers or Brady.

Play him.

The risk won’t be there if he stays on the bench.

How would you feel if something did happen? I bet you’d side with me then.

“Man, he had no business playing in the last six games, now we wait wondering for the next 10 months”

Yes.

Play Mahomes and allow him to get regular season game experience before he starts a full season next year.

Limit the playbook and put the kid out there.

This goddamn offense goes through HOOPS to avoid asking Alex to drop back, read a defense, and deliver the ball. He only does that 10-15 times a game, and he ends up scrambling on half of them. It's PATHETIC.

If we're going to treat our 33 year old veteran like a rookie, let's put the actual rookie with all world arm talent out there.

You are such a coward. Mahomes has more talent than Alex Smith he will be fine.

Yeah.

Kc only asks Alex to drop back and read a defense maybe a dozen times per game.

Half of the time he goes

Drop back
Shuffle
Shuffle
Scramble

They avoid running an NFL offense BECAUSE of Smith.

You’ll thank me later knowing that your QB is healthy for 2018.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, but what about 2019? If Mahomes plays in '18, he might get hurt, ensuring the next offseason is a painful one. Best sit him until his contract is up, let someone else take that risk. Anticipation is better than reality, anyway.

No I won't.

In58men wants Alex to remain the starter.

I never thought I'd see the day...

You can play the nervous Nellie game all you want. But football is a contact sport he’ll get hit this year and he will get hit next year. Who knows if or when he gets injured,the good Lord forbid. But I am with pugs on this move, I think putting in Patrick will fire up this offense and the league will take notice because now the talented gunslinger is in and he can make plays Alex can’t and Andy means business. And as much as the defenses will try to prevent Patrick from making plays they won’t be able to because he is that talented. Will he make rookie mistakes? Sure he will. But I’m banking on his talent outweighing his rookie mistakes and at least giving us a chance to go further in the playoffs and giving him experience in the playoffs .He will be prime for next year!

He’s done after this season anyways. **** it.

So Aaron Rodgers shouldn't have started this season for the Packers so he wouldn't have gotten injured and now out rest of the season?

Nope. Unless his mechanics are so bad or he doesn't have a clear understanding of the offense to the point playing him now would ruin his confidence there's no reason not to play him. This team needs a spark and guys need to be held accountable for the last month.

God damn, how many ****ing times do I have to repeat myself? Are you stuck on stupid? Keeping him on the bench prevents injury. Stop being so ****ing dumb, I know he can get hurt at anytime. If he got hurt, I’d rather it be in a ****ing game where he’s suppose to be starting. This season is over with, just let it go. Fly a ****ing banner for ****s sake.

Once this season is over, nobody will look back. All focus will be on Mahomes. Who cares if we lose out, we’ll get a decent draft pick and have a healthy QB. I’ll take that any ****ing day going into the 2018 off-season.

Somebody in another thread made this comment that all of the Chiefs players on both sides of the ball see this kids talent in practice every day and of course they keep their mouth shut. But you can’t tell me when they see this kid finally coming to the huddle for the first time they will not have some serious hope of some serious playmaking being made from the quarterback position regardless of all this MVP AS talk and I assure you that MVP talk has stopped about five weeks ago within the locker room. Even the defense will be fired up and will play somewhat better if you can imagine that! Great play breeds great play in others and you know this athletic fact to be true!