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Frazod 06-22-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15717794)
Another bonus, he was nails as Bones. Hell I thought Chris Pine did great as a young and brash Kirk. They all hit their roles.

Urban was the best of the bunch. It felt like he was channeling DeForest Kelly.

Mennonite 06-22-2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 15717769)

Another thing I liked about JJ's Star Trek reboot was the casting of Karl Urban as Bones. Urban flat out rules in pretty much everything I've seen him in and he had great comedic timing in those Star Trek films.

There's only one Leonard McCoy:

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...uh...but occasionally there are two James T. Kirks:

https://i.imgur.com/07sLV7V.jpg

Donger 06-22-2021 02:47 PM

I didn't see why old Spock needed to be in the movie, but other than that, it was good. Fantastic score, too.

Mennonite 06-22-2021 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15717811)
I didn't see why old Spock needed to be in the movie, but other than that, it was good. Fantastic score, too.


It gives the continuity obsessed nerds in the fan base an excuse to believe that everything all still fits together.

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2021 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15717815)
It gives the continuity obsessed nerds in the fan base an excuse to believe that everything all still fits together.

The story wouldn't have worked without older Spock, so I completely disagree with your premise.

Shatner was originally intended to be in the reboot as well but Abrams ended up cutting that scene.

unlurking 06-22-2021 03:49 PM

They all sucked. :(

Mennonite 06-22-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15717863)
The story wouldn't have worked without older Spock, so I completely disagree with your premise.

Shatner was originally intended to be in the reboot as well but Abrams ended up cutting that scene.


What I'm saying is is that they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. On the one hand they want to do a reboot, but on the other they want to draw in as many of the old fans as possible. So instead of having a clean reboot, you say "Actually this is a divergent timeline - all the old stuff still exists." This kind of distinction is very important to some Trek fans.

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15717913)
What I'm saying is is that they wanted to have their cake and eat it too. On the one hand they want to do a reboot, but on the other they want to draw in as many of the old fans as possible. So instead of having a clean reboot, you say "Actually this is a divergent timeline - all the old stuff still exists." This kind of distinction is very important to some Trek fans.

"They" are JJ Abrams, not Paramount.

I went to the premiere of the film at Arclight Hollywood back in 2009. At least half the audience was dressed in original series uniforms and everyone seemed to have a great time but of course, any fan base is going to have criticisms from the hardcore fans because it's just impossible to make everyone happy.

I didn't really have a problem with the 2009 reboot and IIRC, the third movie was pretty decent. But they could have trotted out the entire original cast and people still would have been pissed off.

Again, it's impossible to make every fan happy.

sully1983 06-22-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15717794)
Another bonus, he was nails as Bones. Hell I thought Chris Pine did great as a young and brash Kirk. They all hit their roles.

Hell yeah man Pine was great as Kirk (IMO he is one of the best actors that were born in the 80s ). Sure he has been in some panned clunkers over the years but he impressed me in quite a few films since he got the role of Kirk in Star Trek. (he held his own starring in Unstoppable with Denzel Washington which is not an easy task at all. Great dramatic work in Hell or High Water and thought he was pretty badass as Robert the Bruce in Netflix's Outlaw King. His accent was solid for the most part)
He also has a key uncredited role in the 2014 zany comedy called "Stretch". Flat out awesome/darkly funny performance in that. Highly recommend checking it out to anyone that hasn't seen it yet.

Molitoth 06-22-2021 10:03 PM

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(Kirk dumped off the ship, only to find an older Spock and a young Montgomery Scott for starters)
For some reason I thought that Spock KNEW he was going to run into Kirk there, because he knew the past/future or something.

I dunno, time travel stuff.


If it was just coincidence, then yeah... that is dumb.

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2021 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 15718342)
For some reason I thought that Spock KNEW he was going to run into Kirk there, because he knew the past/future or something.

I dunno, time travel stuff.


If it was just coincidence, then yeah... that is dumb.

I rewatched it the other night while on the treadmill and Spock was definitely surprised to see Kirk, just as he was surprised to find Montgomery Scott at the Federation base that was like only 7 kilometers away.

LMAO

So, Spock was in an ice cave and some how built a fire to keep away those dragon-type monsters, yet Scotty was less than 3 miles away, and could have just beamed him over had he known they were there. How could Spock's ship have landed so close to that base yet Scotty was unaware?

I swear, JJ Abrams must think he's the smartest man in the world because his narratives are just plain stupid.

Molitoth 06-22-2021 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15718360)
I rewatched it the other night while on the treadmill and Spock was definitely surprised to see Kirk, just as he was surprised to find Montgomery Scott at the Federation base that was like only 7 kilometers away.

LMAO

So, Spock was in an ice cave and some how built a fire to keep away those dragon-type monsters, yet Scotty was less than 3 miles away, and could have just beamed him over had he known they were there. How could Spock's ship have landed so close to that base yet Scotty was unaware?

I swear, JJ Abrams must think he's the smartest man in the world because his narratives are just plain stupid.

Yeah, I remember Spock looking surprised to see Kirk... but I thought he was just trying to play it off.

I suppose I gave JJ too much credit.

Would be an interesting interview question to ask him...

"So uhhh Mr. Abrams, do you realize how _______ this coincidence is?"

Fish 06-22-2021 10:24 PM

Turd burger, or shit sammich sir?

DanBecky 06-23-2021 10:22 AM

My favorite thing about 2009 Star Trek was Karl Urban. His Bones was great. That movie is really rewatchable for me. Never did watch Star Trek growing up at all, even though I knew most of the characters in the show.

Mennonite 06-23-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DanBecky (Post 15718677)
Never did watch Star Trek growing up at all, even though I knew most of the characters in the show.



2/3 of the original series sucks, but there are some good episodes too; you should check some out. At least watch City on the Edge of Forever, it's a classic.


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