Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14112754)

It’s a HUGE dropoff to go from Houston and Ford to a Vinny Curry/Speaks/rookie combination. Like big enough to probably wipe away any Super Bowl aspirations.

Gotta keep one of them IMO until you have more sure things behind them on the depth chart.

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14112854)

Ford on the tag is not the worst thing for KC. No long term commitment, and he has to play well again to get a long term deal. He gets a one year trial in the 4-3, and I anticipate the Chiefs to add depth to the pass rush either in the draft or FA to hedge against Ford moving into 2020.

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 14112854)

Houston’s annual contract average is just over $16.8 million, but his cap number is over $21 million for this season. Joel Segal is probably confident he can get Houston a 2-3 year deal at $17 million plus instead of restructuring with KC. The Chiefs will inevitably eat some dead money but Houston’s cut savings are the most realistic for freeing up money for this FA period. If Berry is cut post June 1st, his cap savings can be rolled and used to offset extensions for the likes of Hill/Jones.

Ford on the tag is not the worst thing for KC. No long term commitment, and he has to play well again to get a long term deal. He gets a one year trial in the 4-3, and I anticipate the Chiefs to add depth to the pass rush either in the draft or FA to hedge against Ford moving into 2020.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14112097)

Yes, in a sense. It really gives you about $23.55 million to work with to sign free agents if tagging Ford. That's a good sum, at minimum 2 upper echelon free agents and 3 if you wanted but I'd lean towards 2 with a bunch of mid-level guys thrown in.

If the team can cut Berry, then the way I feel about Houston is you approach him and you talk to him about the future. One is, we can cut you right now and you can go see what you can get on the market and maybe you'll make $32m over the next 3 years or maybe you won't. Or, we can take your next 2 seasons and we spread them out over 3. We take the 15.25m you're set to make in 2019 and we make that a signing bonus and we take the 17.00m you're set to make in 2020 and we spread that out over the 3 years as your salary. We'll fully guarantee your 2019 portion of that salary. Houston now makes a guaranteed $20.92m by carving up his old contract (nearly the same as his total cap hit this season) and his cap hits are $16.6m in 2019, 12.75m in 2020, and 10.75m in 2021. He's worth that, in my opinion. That saves 4.5m against the cap in 2019 and 6.25m against the cap in 2020. You'd retain your premier edge player for the next 3 seasons. The savings you'd get between that restructure and Berry being cut is enough to carry a couple of mid-tier free agents.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14112735)

says you and like one other guy here on this board and not one single person anywhere in any media outlet, be it ESPN or any podcast or in any print media who have discussed the situation.

NOBODY, not a single person anywhere has said a word about Berry not being able to be cut due to the haglund's heel situation.

So until SOMEONE DOES, somebody, somewhere, who's job it is to cover such things, I think it's fair game for speculation.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14113044)

What part of this is not clear to you?



He's not going to pass a physical before the 15th of next Month and they would save practically nothing, even with a June 1st designation, once that guarantee kicks in. Give it a ****ing rest already.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14113044)

What part of this is not clear to you?



He's not going to pass a physical before the 15th of next Month and they would save practically nothing, even with a June 1st designation, once that guarantee kicks in. Give it a ****ing rest already.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14113044)

What part of this is not clear to you?



He's not going to pass a physical before the 15th of next Month and they would save practically nothing, even with a June 1st designation, once that guarantee kicks in. Give it a ****ing rest already.