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DJ's left nut 01-22-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14063553)
Yeah, they ran 94 plays. 94 ****ing plays.

You talked about it before, but Bill and Tom just pulled some wizard shit and we ****ed it up.

They did exactly nothing complicated or unexpected.

They came ready to play in the first half and we just flat didn't. The moment was finally too big for them. It happens but I'll be damned if I thought we might avoid it.

Turns out Mahomes was still damn near good enough to pull us out of it but the bottom line is that you can't spot a championship caliber opponent an entire half and hope to win unless you're as battle tested as they are. The Chiefs could MAYBE have held on there if they were 3 years further down the road with some of these young guys but they simply could not do that when they were spotting so much big-game experience as well.

****ing Ford. What a vapor lock.

The Franchise 01-22-2019 11:32 AM

How in the **** as a defensive linemen are you not checking to see how you're lined up....BEFORE EVERY ****ING PLAY!?

O.city 01-22-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14063606)
They did exactly nothing complicated or unexpected.

They came ready to play in the first half and we just flat didn't. The moment was finally too big for them. It happens but I'll be damned if I thought we might avoid it.

Turns out Mahomes was still damn near good enough to pull us out of it but the bottom line is that you can't spot a championship caliber opponent an entire half and hope to win unless you're as battle tested as they are. The Chiefs could MAYBE have held on there if they were 3 years further down the road with some of these young guys but they simply could not do that when they were spotting so much big-game experience as well.

****ing Ford. What a vapor lock.

But they ****ing did. I mean they battled back. They held the Pats to 10 second half points and had Brady throw 3 picks.

But Ford couldn't line up.

Buehler445 01-22-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14063642)
How in the **** as a defensive linemen are you not checking to see how you're lined up....BEFORE EVERY ****ING PLAY!?

While you're looking at the ****ing ball to see the snap.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2019 11:49 AM

The main reason I’m most down with tag and trade now is I don’t have faith in him to stay healthy again next year. But I’d want an earlier 2nd round pick minimum.

duncan_idaho 01-22-2019 06:59 PM

Tag and trade.

Spend the money elsewhere. Add some high value picks. Get a more well-rounded player who makes the defense less predictable.

Ford is a one-trick pony who is a huge liability against the run and is a core problem of the run D weakness.

RealSNR 01-22-2019 07:19 PM

I was initially down with a 1-year tag. Now even that looks shit ass expensive, though it's certainly possible in the two or so years before Mahomes starts to take up a significant portion of the cap.

Do NOT give him a longterm deal. I'm fine with tagging and signing or tagging and trading. But it's one year only.

kccrow 01-22-2019 07:43 PM

I'm tending more towards the tag and trade the more and more I think it through. I don't think you can justify just letting him walk away though. Gotta get a return better than a 3rd next year and that's only IF the Chiefs don't sign another free agent that wipes him out. I'd prefer Preston Smith here. He plays the run really well and generates a ton of pressure on the QB, even if his sacks total doesn't seem to indicate it.

RunKC 01-22-2019 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14063694)
The main reason I’m most down with tag and trade now is I don’t have faith in him to stay healthy again next year. But I’d want an earlier 2nd round pick minimum.

I’d take a 2nd or even early 3rd rd pick.

This draft is filled with a lot of quality and quantity of defensive players. Stock these guys up now.

Chris Meck 01-23-2019 04:33 AM

tag and trade. He's so one dimensional as to be a liability in anything other than rushing the passer. You need to have more versatility than that I think in this NFL.

The Franchise 01-23-2019 11:17 AM

Yeah....we totally need to pay this guy.

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warrior 01-23-2019 12:42 PM

Tag and trade he's a one dimensional player with a bad back -read where the Browns and Jets where interested.

Chris Meck 01-23-2019 12:42 PM

well, this is all moot now. 4-3 has no position for Ford. Tag and trade.

warrior 01-23-2019 12:55 PM

Yep Ford has no place in a 4-3 still should get a draft pick though hopefully a second

O.city 01-23-2019 03:34 PM

How does the Tag and Trade thing work? Do they negotiate a contract first?


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