I'd love to see the Pats dynasty collapse. But I still get nervous that they'll find a way to tank just enough for Trevor Lawrence. Want them to suck, but not too much.

I expect the Patriots with Newton (or a much better Stidham than we thought he he wins the job) to be one of the Top teams in the AFC. Losing Hightower is huge though, I'll have to knock them down a peg. But if you think they are going 3-13 you are out of your mind.

They could sleep walk to 8-8.

Patriots will win their division this year, as always.

While they have every right to do so, CTE would be a bigger concern for me if I was a NFL football player and it's not even close.

I'm surprised more COACHES aren't opting out, and surprised PLAYERS are.

Bill tanking the season to try to get Trevor Lawrence?

Losing for Lawrence

At their age they both have a better chance of dying from Influenza B.

Yea I'm sure guys are just intentionally leaving millions of dollars on the table to lose for a rookie QB, don't buy that either.

Pats will not win the East

After the Pats climbed 8 spots in the NFL power rankings too... I'm curious what that will look like as of next week.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say these guys who are sitting disagree with you.

Did they get any receivers? Last I checked Edelman was their best one still. To have a #3 or 4 slot receiver Like Edelman be your best receiving option definitely makes you a bottom dweller in this league. Cam doesn’t have the legs anymore to save their lack of offensive weapons. 8-8 is a possibility because they’re in the AFC east, but no one outside the northeast considers them an AFC contender anymore.

We have Mahomes. We're good!

:shrug: doesn't mean they are right. Data is data.

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