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lawrenceRaider 01-14-2022 10:55 AM

On the flip side.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s a look at which <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> teams benefited most from penalties committed *by their opponents* this season<br><br>Tomorrow we&#39;ll share which teams were hurt most by penalties against them -and- the net WP gain/loss from penalties for each team<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLStats?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLStats</a> <a href="https://t.co/oMDjTMcDUQ">pic.twitter.com/oMDjTMcDUQ</a></p>&mdash; acCOUNTable refs (@AcCOUNTableRefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/AcCOUNTableRefs/status/1481702014459551749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Refs 01-14-2022 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16073824)
On the flip side.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s a look at which <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> teams benefited most from penalties committed *by their opponents* this season<br><br>Tomorrow we&#39;ll share which teams were hurt most by penalties against them -and- the net WP gain/loss from penalties for each team<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLStats?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLStats</a> <a href="https://t.co/oMDjTMcDUQ">pic.twitter.com/oMDjTMcDUQ</a></p>&mdash; acCOUNTable refs (@AcCOUNTableRefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/AcCOUNTableRefs/status/1481702014459551749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!

Cheater5 01-17-2022 05:06 PM

Mayock fired.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-mike-mayock/

backinblack 01-17-2022 05:13 PM

I kind of wanted to see a draft of his without Gruden’s influence, but at the same time it makes too much sense to move on from him.

Buehler445 01-17-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16073824)
On the flip side.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here&#39;s a look at which <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> teams benefited most from penalties committed *by their opponents* this season<br><br>Tomorrow we&#39;ll share which teams were hurt most by penalties against them -and- the net WP gain/loss from penalties for each team<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLStats?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLStats</a> <a href="https://t.co/oMDjTMcDUQ">pic.twitter.com/oMDjTMcDUQ</a></p>&mdash; acCOUNTable refs (@AcCOUNTableRefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/AcCOUNTableRefs/status/1481702014459551749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Win probability is a dumb stat. Give me a breakdown of total penalties and yards by opposing teams and how many were on 3rd or 4th down and extended the drive.

frozenchief 01-25-2022 06:13 PM

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lawrenceRaider 01-26-2022 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16084078)
Win probability is a dumb stat. Give me a breakdown of total penalties and yards by opposing teams and how many were on 3rd or 4th down and extended the drive.

That's been posted several times.

Raiders always are on the wrong end of officiating.

https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/1...vegas-raiders/

Eureka 01-26-2022 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 16107219)
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That's not a bad idea.

lawrenceRaider 01-26-2022 11:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW: <a href="https://twitter.com/Raiders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Raiders</a>&#39; Nathan Hobbs was under the legal limit for driving under the influence when he was arrested, the Clark County District Attorney announced Wednesday. As a result, Hobbs pleaded guilty to a lesser charge. <a href="https://t.co/XB4IREWIHi">https://t.co/XB4IREWIHi</a></p>&mdash; FOX5 Las Vegas (@FOX5Vegas) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOX5Vegas/status/1486379024452440064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 01-27-2022 04:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> have put in a request to interview <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> OC Josh McDaniels for their vacant HC job, source said. The hope is he interviews on Friday and he’s considered a top candidate.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1486812002001510404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Coochie liquor 01-27-2022 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16111788)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> have put in a request to interview <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> OC Josh McDaniels for their vacant HC job, source said. The hope is he interviews on Friday and he’s considered a top candidate.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1486812002001510404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Faders gonna hire a new coach before a GM?

Ocotillo 01-27-2022 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16111857)
Faders gonna hire a new coach before a GM?

Sounds like a package deal with this guy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders already have interviewed New England personnel executive Dave Ziegler, putting a Patriots pairing in play in Las Vegas. <a href="https://t.co/w2DZER0Wi2">https://t.co/w2DZER0Wi2</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486813585586245638?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

backinblack 01-27-2022 04:52 PM

please no to McDaniels

someone needs to send a copy of the Raiders ass****ing of the McDaniels coached Broncos in 2010 to Mark. Was like 59-14.

R8RFAN 01-27-2022 04:59 PM

If they hire Josh I may become a Chiefs fan

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-27-2022 05:10 PM

Great. We are going to hire a Belichick stooge. Because that has worked so well before.

And some of you guys told me that things were looking up!

Kiimo 01-27-2022 05:13 PM

Make Raiders Hateable Again

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2022 05:23 PM

Wow. So you shit can Rich Bisaccia, who actually managed to take the team to the playoffs during one of the tougher years you'll ever see an organization go through, just to go full Patriots Way?!? That's ****ing embarrassing.

R8RFAN 01-27-2022 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16111920)
Wow. So you shit can Rich Bisaccia, who actually managed to take the team to the playoffs during one of the tougher years you'll ever see an organization go through, just to go full Patriots Way?!? That's ****ing embarrassing.

They haven't hired the little bastard yet but I would rather have Coach B

R8RFAN 01-27-2022 05:28 PM

Hell I would rather have Tom Cable than Josh

TimBone 01-27-2022 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16111930)
They haven't hired the little bastard yet but I would rather have Coach B

I've paid zero attention to their coaching search. Any reason they're not giving the interim a chance?

If ever an interim coach proved himself, this was it.

TribalElder 01-27-2022 05:38 PM

Gonna laugh my ass off if they hire Josh McDaniels

ROFL

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-27-2022 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 16111945)
I've paid zero attention to their coaching search. Any reason they're not giving the interim a chance?

If ever an interim coach proved himself, this was it.

He isn't a long term answer. Most interim coaches haven't been successful. And the winning streak down the stretch wasn't impressive. Combine that with the two lopsided losses to KC and it is not a rosy future. I will always appreciate Bisaccia for this season but nothing about it screamed long term success.

Of course, McDaniels isn't much better.

:cuss:

Pitt Gorilla 01-27-2022 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16111962)
Gonna laugh my ass off if they hire Josh McDaniels

ROFL

At that point, just roll the dice with Todd Haley.

Kiimo 01-27-2022 05:47 PM

Bring back Tebow, Josh.

Coochie liquor 01-27-2022 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16111893)
If they hire Josh I may become a Chiefs fan

I’ll send you a SB hat if you do, and we’ll just forget all this being a Faders fan nonsense.

tredadda 01-27-2022 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16111981)
At that point, just roll the dice with Todd Haley.

They need a GM. I imagine Pioli is available. They could be paired up again and we can laugh as hilarity ensues.

R8RFAN 01-27-2022 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 16111945)
I've paid zero attention to their coaching search. Any reason they're not giving the interim a chance?

If ever an interim coach proved himself, this was it.

I can see Harbaugh because he will probably bring some big name OC and DC action to the Raiders but ****ing Josh is a BIG NO from me when we have a coach now that can motivate a team and they play hard for him. **** that little turd.

R8RFAN 01-27-2022 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16112001)
I’ll send you a SB hat if you do, and we’ll just forget all this being a Faders fan nonsense.

Forget that, I will just become a free agent and watch the game and no longer care who wins ROFL I couldn't wear that man:shake:

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2022 06:14 PM

Oh God, they're talking Wink Martindale for DC as well. Say goodbye to the days of Crosby being a difference maker.

Chris Meck 01-27-2022 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16112024)
Oh God, they're talking Wink Martindale for DC as well. Say goodbye to the days of Crosby being a difference maker.

oh lord, if they switch to a 3-4 I'm gonna LOL

The Franchise 01-27-2022 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16112024)
Oh God, they're talking Wink Martindale for DC as well. Say goodbye to the days of Crosby being a difference maker.

I almost feel bad for Raiders fans. Holy shit.

Rasputin 01-27-2022 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16111788)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> have put in a request to interview <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> OC Josh McDaniels for their vacant HC job, source said. The hope is he interviews on Friday and he’s considered a top candidate.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1486812002001510404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL


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Ocotillo 01-27-2022 08:20 PM

The post above is why no fan wants McDouche.

He's arguably the coach with the lowest ethics in pro football.

He hired the same spygate camera man in Denver (after the scandal with the Jets in New England) and ordered him to film the 49ers' walkthrough in London.

The Colts a few years back had verbally agreed to hire McDouche. They set up a press conference to introduce him and McDouche left them at the altar.

smithandrew051 01-27-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16112077)
oh lord, if they switch to a 3-4 I'm gonna LOL

Can’t wait to see Maxx Crosby drop in coverage like Grandpa Bob used to do with Justin Houston.

Ocotillo 01-29-2022 01:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OK, there&#39;s one sentence in this report that seems a little bizarre . . . &quot;McDaniels informed the Raiders that he wouldn’t accept their interview request unless he was being offered the job, per sources.&quot; . . . that&#39;s a hell of a strategy if it works . . . <a href="https://t.co/tQzOJUXCwd">https://t.co/tQzOJUXCwd</a></p>&mdash; Jerry McDonald (@Jerrymcd) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jerrymcd/status/1487225092333453313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 01-29-2022 01:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Las Vegas update: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> are interviewing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> OC Josh McDaniels today, source said. It was a positive dinner last night with team president Dan Ventrelle, and owner Mark Davis joins them today. If all goes well today, the hire could come as quickly as this weekend.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1487493344221614084?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lawrenceRaider 01-29-2022 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16111962)
Gonna laugh my ass off if they hire Josh McDaniels

ROFL

I'm actually coming around to the idea. He is a great offensive mind, and word is he loves Carr. Would be the best offense Carr has ever played in.

The Wink Martindale thing scares me though. Our best defenders up front, Crosby and Yannick, don't fit his scheme.

Eureka 01-29-2022 01:41 PM

Has JM learned from his first stint a decade ago in Denver?

The guy should have some positive attributes going for him. SB winning OC.

I'm guessing he figures he can scheme enough to win with Carr.

lawrenceRaider 01-29-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16114883)
Has JM learned from his first stint a decade ago in Denver?

The guy should have some positive attributes going for him. SB winning OC.

I'm guessing he figures he can scheme enough to win with Carr.

Word is that he only considered the Raiders job because of Carr.

DJ's left nut 01-29-2022 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16114861)
I'm actually coming around to the idea. He is a great offensive mind, and word is he loves Carr. Would be the best offense Carr has ever played in.

The Wink Martindale thing scares me though. Our best defenders up front, Crosby and Yannick, don't fit his scheme.

Based on what, exactly?

Those couple of years of shitty offense in Denver? The year of shitty offense in St. Louis?

Last season's shitty offense in NE? Or was it this season when he pretty much limped along with Mac Jones and boosted his stats by blowing out 3 god-awful teams?

Or maybe it was those years where Tom Brady was exactly the same guy under him as he was under any other swinging dick that coordinated for the Patriots?

Josh McDaniels is just another Patriots fraud.

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-29-2022 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16115158)
Based on what, exactly?

Those couple of years of shitty offense in Denver? The year of shitty offense in St. Louis?

Last season's shitty offense in NE? Or was it this season when he pretty much limped along with Mac Jones and boosted his stats by blowing out 3 god-awful teams?

Or maybe it was those years where Tom Brady was exactly the same guy under him as he was under any other swinging dick that coordinated for the Patriots?

Josh McDaniels is just another Patriots fraud.

He did great work with Cassel in 2008!

Trying to find something.

lawrenceRaider 01-29-2022 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16115339)
He did great work with Cassel in 2008!

Trying to find something.

Also Jimmy G, Jacoby Brissett, made even Cam semi effective last year.

Red Dawg 01-29-2022 09:43 PM

This is just nuts. Every coach from Bill's tree gets canned. Pure stupid to hire McDaniels. He failed bad and was fired for cheating. He admitted to all the NE cheating openly. Why did they think he's a good choice?

Ocotillo 01-29-2022 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16115622)
Also Jimmy G, Jacoby Brissett, made even Cam semi effective last year.

What about his people skills?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I’m a Denver native; I was starting in my hometown, I was miserable, I hated football, I wanted to quit. The secretaries were miserable, the coaches were miserable, it was not a good experience.”-<a href="https://twitter.com/Tyler_Polumbus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tyler_Polumbus</a> on why he hates Josh McDaniels.<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/vRffU8XGIX">pic.twitter.com/vRffU8XGIX</a></p>&mdash; Zach Gelb (@ZachGelb) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachGelb/status/1487461845418094600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lawrenceRaider 01-30-2022 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 16115666)
What about his people skills?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I’m a Denver native; I was starting in my hometown, I was miserable, I hated football, I wanted to quit. The secretaries were miserable, the coaches were miserable, it was not a good experience.”-<a href="https://twitter.com/Tyler_Polumbus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tyler_Polumbus</a> on why he hates Josh McDaniels.<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/vRffU8XGIX">pic.twitter.com/vRffU8XGIX</a></p>&mdash; Zach Gelb (@ZachGelb) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachGelb/status/1487461845418094600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


My people skills are entirely different now at 46 than they were when I was 33.

But you raise the point that worries me the most.

TBF, it is the same thing that worried me most about Harbaugh. Plus Harbaugh per some reports wanted to trade for Watson and basically start a rebuild. No thanks.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-30-2022 12:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> are expected to hire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> de facto GM Dave Ziegler as their new GM, per, <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>. He was key in New England’s fast turnaround, now turns his attention to Las Vegas. The next step is slated to be the hire of Josh McDaniels as head coach.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1487852260893859843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Superbowltrashcan 01-30-2022 12:25 PM

https://www.nfl.com/news/dave-ziegle...eneral-manager


Looks like the Patriot Way is coming to Vegas...

Coochie liquor 01-30-2022 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16115855)
My people skills are entirely different now at 46 than they were when I was 33.

But you raise the point that worries me the most.

TBF, it is the same thing that worried me most about Harbaugh. Plus Harbaugh per some reports wanted to trade for Watson and basically start a rebuild. No thanks.

Sounds like you’re trying to talk yourself into liking McD. I can understand your feelings, and who knows how it plays out. But there’s lots of examples showing how BB tree coaches work out. And usually they don’t. Maybe if he decides to not go Patriot way, he may have a chance. But the only one who didn’t do that was Flores.

Buehler445 01-30-2022 12:30 PM

Sorry fellas.

I want nothing good for Faid. But I don't wish the agony of Cheatriot ****baggery on the dudes here.

Gravedigger 01-30-2022 12:36 PM

Candy wrappers in Vegas.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-30-2022 12:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders are expected to hire former Patriots’ OC Josh McDaniels as their head coach, per sources. Two sides still are finalizing the contract, but McDaniels is their man.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1487858413015121930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 01-30-2022 12:43 PM

McDaniels wants to keep Carr and bring the two TE offense to Oakland.

I’m sure that will keep up with Mahomes or Herbert.

RunKC 01-30-2022 12:47 PM

Raiders going full on Patriots way? You love to see it!

Pablo 01-30-2022 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16116232)
Raiders going full on Patriots way? You love to see it!

Very nice

TribalElder 01-30-2022 12:56 PM

ROFL ROFL ROFL

trash franchise

Easy Money for Josh McD

FlaChief58 01-30-2022 01:00 PM

Good news for the donkeys. 3rd place in the division seems much more realistic for them now

Rausch 01-30-2022 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16116250)
Good news for the donkeys. 3rd place in the division seems much more realistic for them now

I feel sorry for the Las Vegas fans. They just wanted a team. They have for decades.

Instead of an expansion team the NFL gives them the Raiders...

lawrenceRaider 01-30-2022 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16116224)
McDaniels wants to keep Carr and bring the two TE offense to Oakland.

I’m sure that will keep up with Mahomes or Herbert.

Right, because Kelce isn't the straw that stirs the Chiefs drink. I'd argue Kelce, after Mahomes, is the most irreplaceable player in the Chiefs offense.

Rausch 01-30-2022 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16116311)
Right, because Kelce isn't the straw that stirs the Chiefs drink. I'd argue Kelce, after Mahomes, is the most irreplaceable player in the Chiefs offense.

Hill makes the amazing plays but Kelcee is our 3rd down, dependable, possession receiver.

In a HOF TE body...

KChiefs1 01-30-2022 01:24 PM

Great hire!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/hQKiG...g2yx/giphy.gif


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R8RFAN 01-30-2022 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16116311)
Right, because Kelce isn't the straw that stirs the Chiefs drink. I'd argue Kelce, after Mahomes, is the most irreplaceable player in the Chiefs offense.

i agree that MOFO always finds a way to be open at the most critical times.

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-10-2022 09:56 PM

Colts interested in Carr? It would suck if the Raiders dumped him.


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Rasputin 03-11-2022 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16185212)
Colts interested in Carr? It would suck if the Raiders dumped him.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> are allegedly targeting Raiders QB Derek Carr in a trade������ (Via <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatMcAfeeShow</a>) <a href="https://t.co/B8Afu2S2H6">pic.twitter.com/B8Afu2S2H6</a></p>&mdash; Colts Coverage (@Colts_Coverage) <a href="https://twitter.com/Colts_Coverage/status/1502014916621910019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



God please no. He is 3 and 13 vs my favorite team The Kansas City Chiefs and 57 & 70 in the NFL. I've been making fun of a Raider fan on Facebook thinks they are going win the West with HC Josh McClown what a dishing.

I don't get how you can show your face and pound your chest after getting inhalation 41-14 and 48-9 in the same season and talk trash. Good lordy.

Eureka 03-11-2022 09:38 AM

So McDaniel's last stint as a head coach he trades the starting QB before his first game and now he is going to do it again on his second stint as head coach?

The bigger question would be who would replace Carr?

What compensation do the Colts have to give?

irafreak 03-11-2022 09:47 AM

The way this off-season has started, the Raiders will miraculously acquire Josh Allen.

BryanBusby 03-11-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16185513)
So McDaniel's last stint as a head coach he trades the starting QB before his first game and now he is going to do it again on his second stint as head coach?

The bigger question would be who would replace Carr?

What compensation do the Colts have to give?

In his mind? Tom Brady.

For the Colts to get Carr, something north of what they paid to get Wentz a year ago.

lawrenceRaider 03-11-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 16185513)
So McDaniel's last stint as a head coach he trades the starting QB before his first game and now he is going to do it again on his second stint as head coach?

The bigger question would be who would replace Carr?

What compensation do the Colts have to give?

McDaniel's is on record as saying Carr is the starting QB for the Raiders in 2022.

Colts tried to trade for Carr last year as well. They seem to be desperate to have him.

Eureka 03-11-2022 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16185548)
In his mind? Tom Brady.

For the Colts to get Carr, something north of what they paid to get Wentz a year ago.

It would have to be the Colts 1st's in 23, 24, and 25.

Then maybe the Raiders wait for a QB to fall to them with pick #22 this year. Maybe, Tom does come to the Raiders and he'd be the 3rd best QB in the division?

jdubya 03-11-2022 10:39 AM

Trade better include his brothers, good riddance

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MarkDavis'Haircut 03-11-2022 11:55 AM

Our dumb fan base thinks Mariota is the answer.

jdubya 03-11-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16185771)
Our dumb fan base thinks Mariota is the answer.

The base thinks Mariota is the answer? To what?

I think the base just believes Carr is NOT the answer and it would be an epic fail to extend him especially for big money. Of course our rivals would party big time if the Raiders are so stupid as to keep Carr around for several more years.

Red Dawg 03-11-2022 12:16 PM

No way they trade Carr. Does Josh McD take jobs to ruin teams?

lawrenceRaider 03-11-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 16185802)
The base thinks Mariota is the answer? To what?

I think the base just believes Carr is NOT the answer and it would be an epic fail to extend him especially for big money. Of course our rivals would party big time if the Raiders are so stupid as to keep Carr around for several more years.

Parts of the fan base think Carr can't be the answer because they are stuck in 2017/18. It's like his improvement the last several years didn't happen because all they can remember is when Del Rio sabotaged the offense by forcing Musgrave out and inserting Downing as the OC and Gruden's first year when they gutted the team.

KChiefs1 03-11-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16185771)
Our dumb fan base thinks Mariota is the answer.


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Buehler445 03-11-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16185212)
Colts interested in Carr? It would suck if the Raiders dumped him.


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That would actually probably help us. Carr hasn’t had the best performances against us but he is the best they’ve had since Gannon. Anything to get an easier road in the division. Plus look at what other QB needy teams are doing. Lusting after Carr and trading for Wentz. :Lin: I’d be all about getting him out of the division.

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16185550)
McDaniel's is on record as saying Carr is the starting QB for the Raiders in 2022.

Colts tried to trade for Carr last year as well. They seem to be desperate to have him.

McDaniel is also a lying sack of brother****ing Cheatriot.

BUT. At his cap number it does make some sense to see how he looks in your offense in 22.

Doesn’t mean McDouche won’t think he’s the smartest guy in the room.

Pablo 03-11-2022 02:33 PM

I’ll miss seeing his mascara run if he gets traded

jdubya 03-11-2022 03:17 PM

This is from a B/R article 2014 and still most of his issues today. Only thing I’d add is his uncanny ability to lose the ball with minimal contact:


Negatives

Footwork needs improvement; he often retreats from pressure and throws off his back foot. Needs to step into his throws more consistently.
Poor decision-making under duress.
Average pocket presence with wavering poise and unrefined pocket movement.
Stares down his intended target. He needs to improve eye discipline.
Too often appears to be flustered by pressure. Can be quick to flee the pocket.
Inconsistent mechanics, has a tendency to lock his lower half and throw with his arm alone.
Struggles when his receivers’ routes are disrupted.
Often late to recognize the blitz.
Operated almost exclusively out of shotgun with four or five receiver sets.
Not an anticipatory thrower.
Will not hurt defenses on the ground. He has enough mobility to get by but is not much of a running threat.
Hangs his receivers out to dry at times.
Does not appear to see the field very well, throwing into double-teams occasionally.
Struggled with top competition.
College career ended on a lousy note as he was erratic vs. USC in the Las Vegas Bowl.

jdubya 03-11-2022 08:04 PM

Derek Carr when he hears phantom steps or hears "BLITZ"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YI4hzzepEcI

Bowser 03-11-2022 08:26 PM

LMAO

RealSNR 03-11-2022 08:32 PM

I don't know about Derek Carr, but can we trade David Carr to Ukraine?


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