Could've at least used that to drive the trade compensation of Clark down a bit.

I would have probably rather had Clowney, but I think i'm gonna be happy with Clark.

I dunno that I'd have been as excited about giving Clowney the money Clark got.

Either isn't ideal I suppose.

I know I’d be a lot more concerned about injury or poor effort.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/TonyPauline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyPauline</a>: Texans head coach Bill O’Brien has been pushing a trade to Miami because of his relationship with Brian Flores. <br><br>However, Jadeveon Clowney doesn&#39;t want to go to Miami because he prefers to play for a contender.<br><br>Many more details below.<a href="https://t.co/GlsUVyU80h">https://t.co/GlsUVyU80h</a></p>&mdash; Pro Football Network (@PFN365) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFN365/status/1166436782570967040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texans&#39; compensation requirements for Jadeveon Clowney are &#39;reasonable,&#39; per sources. Multiple agents are pursuing unsigned franchise player, ton of heavy hitters going after him. Nothing imminent for him picking new representation, though.</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1166437381148479488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, I think that's why they liked Clark so much.

They needed some dogs on defense. I dunno that Clowney is that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dolphins are not willing to include offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil in a prospective trade scenario involving Jadeveon Clowney, according to league sources. Texans need help at running back in addition to offensive tackle</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1166438163277131779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cam Erving, Carlos Hyde and a 4th. Done deal.

Cam Erving would be a net negative add

Do it Veach

Eh, probably so.

Send them something else.

(looks around) …..How about a shiny Byron Pringle?

But if that was the proposed compensation in the spring (per the Tweet) then it was still a time the Chiefs could've taken advantage of the discord.

It's not a one-off, is all I'm saying. He has several of these iffy sorts of deals on his register already. I mean that Clark trade/contract is such that he'd BETTER be a top 5 finisher for the DPOY. All the "man, Clark looks pretty good" stuff is kinda strange to me because we just traded for and paid the man as though he's nearly as good as Kalil Mack.

So if he goes out there and provides good run defense and 10-12 sacks, some people are going to say "hey, nice acquisition" whereas I see no way to call that anything but a failure. Brett Veach paid dearly for Frank Clark and if he's not a genuine difference maker, that's another L. Watkins is almost certainly an L; hard for him to do anything that will justify the $30+ million he's going to make in the 2 years of this deal. Hitchens isn't quite set in stone as an L yet because that's probably a 3 year deal with a reasonable possibility for 4 if he bounces back - there's time there.

And I'll ask the same thing I asked on Mathieu when we originally signed him - as much as I like the player, if Mathieu was seeking $10 million/season the year before after AZ cut him and had a solid but not eye opening season in Houston (he was essentially the same player he's always been), where the hell were the Chiefs in 2018 when he was available at $10 million/season and why was he suddenly worth $14 million in 2019? That's that target fixation at work again, IMO - when he wasn't on Veach's radar, he wasn't worth $10 million to this franchise. But once Veach decided he wanted Tyron Mathieu, plan B wasn't even a consideration and he was just going to pay what it took.

Some will applaud that - pick your guy and do what it takes to get him. Okay - but it had better work. It's what I said about Pioli way back when he was dumping over the roster, bringing in Patriot retreads and putting his eggs in the Matt Cassel basket. I thought it was foolish but acknowledged that if he's going to have that kind of tunnel vision - he'd better be right.

But counter argument, do you think he just went to those dollar amounts without having some reason to? I mean, I doubt he offered 4 million more to get Mathieu?

Didn't we hear they wanted him in 18? I dunno why they didn't get him, guessing it had to do with a safety they were planning on having back there that had some issues, but whatever on that.

I guess what i'm getting at is that those guys were all on the market (outside Clark) so they were having to negotiate against other teams, I'm guessing.

So my thing would be don't target guys that are out there like that and actually have a draft plan so you don't have to spend.

Clark was obtained for compensation equivalent to a late 1st round pick and a 4th round pick (same year).

Clark is the better passrusher which is more valuable.

I remember Clark tweeting that all he wanted was a bag and the sack record.

He's got the bag now. I wonder if he could actually have that monster year in terms of sacks. I mean, he won't beat the sack record but I don't know that 15-20 sacks is out of question.

I feel good about him.