Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5400557)

Satan! GET BEHIND ME!

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5400674)

Seriously what is all the hatred for Marty? He made us the 2nd winningest franchise in the 90's. his last job he went 13-3. Some bad coaching and a lot of bad luck in the playoffs ya, but he's one of the best coaches in the history of the NFL period. His day will come.

Why do so many hate a guy that did so many great things for this Team? He turned this team around from being a turd to a perenial playoff team. Dont want him back if you like, but to laugh at him like he's a joke is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5400095)

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5400652)

That's ridiculous. The Broncos rescources have been spent primarily on defense for the last sevaral years.

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5400852)

Are you high or something? You shouldn't embarass yourself with such uniformed takes in a public forum.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5400833)

Yep, agree. Fortunately Bowlen tossed us a lifeline. McDaniels seems like a good pick, if you haven't just finished firing Mike ****ing Shanahan.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5400809)

To get a championship, a team HAS to go through the playoffs. Hence Marty IS a joke.

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5400860)

I hear ya... Firing Shanahan, keeping his personnel guy, and then hiring a younger version of him... that doesn't make too much sense to me.

I could have seen if we hired Spagnuolo...

But whatever. I think there's more to it behind the scenes between Shanahan and Bowlen than they're letting on out in the open.

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5400916)

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5400916)

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5400916)

So Marino is a joke and not a great QB because he has no ring?

Manning was also a joke till he got his.

Elway should have been benched after 15 yrs of no ring right? At that point he was a joke and ownership should have given up on him. He sucked. He had 15 yrs and couldnt get it done. Why would you let that loser keep playing?

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5400938)

Elway is a bad comparison, he went to two Superbowls in the 80s. Marty never even sniffed the championship game.

Marty's been coaching in the NFL since 1975. He's been a head coach in the NFL for a full twenty years. Hey, if you want to give him another go 'round, thinking he'll finally find lightning in a bottle at 65 years of age, and somehow overcome his own inherent martyocrity, well, more power to ya.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5400938)

Elway is a bad comparison, he went to two Superbowls in the 80s. Marty never even sniffed the championship game.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5400938)

Elway is a bad comparison, he went to two Superbowls in the 80s. Marty never even sniffed the championship game.

Marty's been coaching in the NFL since 1975. He's been a head coach in the NFL for a full twenty years. Hey, if you want to give him another go 'round, thinking he'll finally find lightning in a bottle at 65 years of age, and somehow overcome his own inherent martyocrity, well, more power to ya.